Curse of the Blood Rubies WILL Have a New Dub--CONFIRMED

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Re: Curse of the Blood Rubies WILL Have a New Dub--CONFIRMED

Post by TripleRach » Sun Nov 14, 2010 1:50 pm

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:Put it this way, if Curse of the Blood Rubies was a completely new movie, and right before it's release it was announced that Nozawa would be replaced as Gokū, with no explanation given, then I'm willing to bet a similar thing would happen. My fellow fans of the Japanese version are being so dissmissive about this, because it's happening to the dub and that's not the version that we watch or have a big connection to.
Would I be upset if Nozawa were replaced inexplicably? Probably. There was a similar controversy over Japanese recasts of major characters in the Zeta Gundam movies a few years ago (movies which featured the final performance of Hirotaka "Tenshinhan" Suzuoki before his passing, incidentally). But considering the credibility and experience Nozawa has, it is highly unlikely Toei will ever recast her against her will. Do you guys really believe, from an objective standpoint, that Nadolny is on that same level? Because Chris Sabat doesn't seem to think so.

Either way, I wasn't trying to be dismissive. My point was that, in 2010, English dubs are a luxury. Some people don't expect that luxury to last much longer. We already have one instance of Dragon Ball animation being released sub-only. We live in an age where free fansubs are all over the internets, months before dubs can even start production (or in the case of this movie, years). You're welcome to voice your displeasure and try to relay it to the powers that be. But if you don't take what you can get, you might not be getting anything. If this movie doesn't sell, I doubt they're going to think the lack of Stephanie Nadolny is the reason.
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Re: Curse of the Blood Rubies WILL Have a New Dub--CONFIRMED

Post by Innagadadavida » Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:12 pm

Well they can think what ever they want. I'm not going to buy it. I already have the old version and it won't be the end of the world if I don't see this one in Japanese.

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Post by AgitoZ » Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:03 pm

Innagadadavida wrote:Well they can think what ever they want. I'm not going to buy it. I already have the old version and it won't be the end of the world if I don't see this one in Japanese.
So you will not buy this release because of one voice?! Seriously it's a bit much don't you think? I'd still pick it up to show we want more DB and will keep supporting FUNi and the fact they're actually bringing uncut over here.
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Post by VegettoEX » Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:06 pm

The anime industry isn't a charity. If you don't want something (for whatever reason that may be), you're under no obligation to purchase it.
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Post by Gaffer Tape » Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:10 pm

While I don't agree with Innagadavida's reason, I do agree with his reasoning. You should never buy a product like this because you feel you "owe something" to the company. That's insane. You should only give them your money if you honestly believe the product has earned it. To him, the casting choice has kept this release from earning his money, so more power to him. Likewise, I'll probably hold off on this just because it'll probably only have the English version credits, and I'd still like to hold out and see if there will be a Dragon Box release.

EDIT: Damnit. Mike beat me to it! :P
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Post by Deimos » Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:26 pm

Hey everyone, I've been lurking around the forums for a few weeks now. I have finally decided to the take the plunge and start posting to become more involved in this great Dragonball community. :D

Anyway to be more on-topic, I really enjoyed Nadolny's Goku. But, I don't mind that she is being replaced. Clinkenbeard is a suitable successor and should do fine. It is just a single movie after all.

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Post by penguintruth » Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:42 pm

I'm normally not interested in the original DB movies, but I'll be buying this specifically to support the Kai cast.

Well, that, and I kind of like the fight towards the end.
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Post by batistabus » Sun Nov 14, 2010 8:38 pm

I'll buy it to support the Kai cast, to complete my DB movie collection...and simply because I haven't seen it before.

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Post by Makaioshin » Sun Nov 14, 2010 8:54 pm

penguintruth wrote:I'm normally not interested in the original DB movies, but I'll be buying this specifically to support the Kai cast.

Well, that, and I kind of like the fight towards the end.
Why not? I find the third DB movie to be the best movie in the franchise. Well, second to the 10th anniversary movie.

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Post by Bardo117 » Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:10 pm

VegettoEX wrote:The anime industry isn't a charity. If you don't want something (for whatever reason that may be), you're under no obligation to purchase it.
Why do you guys have the exclusive right to cry about changes, and we don't? You guys constantly complained about inaccurate subs, inaccurate script, ect. yet when we make a topic about changes to the English dub, you make insults like this.

You yourself have stated that you "Chuckled a bit when you heard that the FUNi BMG was not included in the aDragonBox" So you obviously don't give a damn.

The point here is, us DUB fans have just as much of a right to post complaints, and run on 11+ pages of it, and not have inappropriate comments made, like this one.(I'm just standing up for myself)
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Post by VegettoEX » Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:14 pm

You're making up an argument that doesn't exist.

My post (which has absolutely nothing to do with watching anything dubbed versus subtitled, by the way) states that, yes, you DO have a right to make purchasing decisions based on ANYTHING YOU WANT. You can complain about any aspect of anything. You can base your purchases off of those reasons if you want. You can tell companies about those reasons.

So what's the problem?
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Post by Bardo117 » Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:28 pm

Your post basically translates to "Yeah, quit bit**ing" Remember how I told you guys to stop complaining about the little differences between the aDragonBox and the jDragonBox? You didn't ONCE make a comment like this.
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Post by Daimo-Rukiri » Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:36 pm

penguintruth wrote:You're right. We should absolutely lobby until we get the original English voice for child Goku back!

I demand Barbara Goodson return!
I actually loved Goodson's Goku, especially when she say's Ka-me-ha-me-ha! Very nozawa like.

Miles ahead of nadolny's acting.

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Post by penguintruth » Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:36 pm

Makaioshin wrote:
penguintruth wrote:I'm normally not interested in the original DB movies, but I'll be buying this specifically to support the Kai cast.

Well, that, and I kind of like the fight towards the end.
Why not? I find the third DB movie to be the best movie in the franchise. Well, second to the 10th anniversary movie.
Trying to stuff in a story into a movie less than an hour long is pointless. The DBZ movies are more honest and just go for action.
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Post by SonEric84 » Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:40 pm

Bardo117 wrote:Your post basically translates to "Yeah, quit bit**ing" Remember how I told you guys to stop complaining about the little differences between the aDragonBox and the jDragonBox? You didn't ONCE make a comment like this.

Dude, c'mon...that's a little excessive. While some people early on weren't very understanding toward the complaint, I think we moved past that. All Mike was trying to say is that if you don't feel a purchase deserves your money, you simply can choose not to support it by buying it.
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Post by dragonpiece » Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:47 pm

(Though I heard this news on Friday...)

Very exiceted about this movie now since it will have my favorite voice actress as the lead character! Though it is pretty funny Colleen is now playing Goku and Luffy, if the person has the ability to, why argue? Anyway, for all you dub fans complaining, you are looking a bit foolish. I mean just keep your hate to yourself, you are only ruining what this board stands for( the rules: http://www.daizex.com/interaction/board/). Either way, definitely going to try finding 10 bucks to pre order this movie before the end of the month so I don't have to wait till Christmas to watch!
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Post by TonyTheTiger » Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:54 pm

SonEric84 wrote:
Bardo117 wrote:Your post basically translates to "Yeah, quit bit**ing" Remember how I told you guys to stop complaining about the little differences between the aDragonBox and the jDragonBox? You didn't ONCE make a comment like this.

Dude, c'mon...that's a little excessive. While some people early on weren't very understanding toward the complaint, I think we moved past that. All Mike was trying to say is that if you don't feel a purchase deserves your money, you simply can choose not to support it by buying it.
Yeah, I have to agree. I don't think anybody is pretending that there is something wrong with being accustomed to a certain voice. I think if there is a trend of not being understanding it's not really over the voice itself. It's over the single voice being a deal breaker. I, personally, don't see how it could be a deal breaker, regardless of who gets replaced, Japanese or English. But if it is a deal breaker for somebody then more power to them if they choose not to buy the product.

I think everybody here who has commented regarding how they'd feel if Nozawa were replaced has, if not explicitly then implicitly, conceded that the change would be annoying and would take some getting used to. Change itself is annoying or at least something we're expected to just accept in entertainment. For some people it was jarring when FUNi stopped using the Ocean cast. For some people it was jarring to hear this voice or that voice in either a FUNi dub or Kai. You can even find posts here where people are bothered by a different performance in Kai even if it is the same actor. And we're talking the Japanese cast here. I don't think anybody is pretending that this is a phenomenon localized to any one group or that a certain base can't voice their dissatisfaction while another can.
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Post by Lum-Chan~ » Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:56 pm

I'm so excited to hear the new dub! It's gonna sound great...I wonder if the script will be more like the original now or just a dub of the original with new acting...
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Post by Kendamu » Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:02 pm

TonyTheTiger wrote:
SonEric84 wrote:
Bardo117 wrote:For some people it was jarring when FUNi stopped using the Ocean cast.
That's what I'm talking about when I say "You guys remind me of myself from back in the day." I was pretty okay with the dub (minus the censorship) until they changed the entire cast and soundtrack on me within one episode. It's one thing when there's a new dub or there's differences from one series to the next, but in the middle of a story arc? It burned me to the core back then.

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Post by Gaffer Tape » Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:05 pm

Bardo117 wrote:Your post basically translates to "Yeah, quit bit**ing" Remember how I told you guys to stop complaining about the little differences between the aDragonBox and the jDragonBox? You didn't ONCE make a comment like this.
Um... what are you talking about? Mike was basically saying that Innagadavida was perfectly within his rights to not purchase this. He was supporting Innagadavida's decision. Why are you picking a fight?
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