"Ultimate Uncut Edition" DVDs Discussion

Blitzen · Post by **Blitzen** » Thu May 25, 2006 8:54 pm

39 episodes on five discs. This can be done, and wont look any worse than the three eps per disc route.

I mean, I'd be over the moon about this (stilll kinda am- FUNimation woke up to relativley great pricing and such!), but I have to feel a bit of sympathy to those who were committed to the ultimate uncut releases which, as of now, look to be cancelled.

BrollysKin · Post by **BrollysKin** » Thu May 25, 2006 11:11 pm

Blitzen wrote:39 episodes on five discs. This can be done, and wont look any worse than the three eps per disc route.

I mean, I'd be over the moon about this (stilll kinda am- FUNimation woke up to relativley great pricing and such!), but I have to feel a bit of sympathy to those who were committed to the ultimate uncut releases which, as of now, look to be cancelled.

But it will still all be uncut right?

theoriginalbilis · Post by **theoriginalbilis** » Thu May 25, 2006 11:20 pm

Uhhh... why wouldn't it be? People have been waiting for these eps. uncut forever.

Blitzen · Post by **Blitzen** » Thu May 25, 2006 11:21 pm

BrollysKin wrote:
Blitzen wrote:39 episodes on five discs. This can be done, and wont look any worse than the three eps per disc route.

I mean, I'd be over the moon about this (stilll kinda am- FUNimation woke up to relativley great pricing and such!), but I have to feel a bit of sympathy to those who were committed to the ultimate uncut releases which, as of now, look to be cancelled.

But it will still all be uncut right?

yep

Namek'jin Ryu · Post by **Namek'jin Ryu** » Mon May 29, 2006 11:30 pm

So wait, let me get this strait. FUNimation has decided to stop releasing the Ultimate Uncut Edition's altogether now, or is this what some are just speculating? Proof of this would come as great help.

Ricochet0082 · Post by **Ricochet0082** » Mon May 29, 2006 11:58 pm

Right Stuf took volume 10 off of their site and replaced it with the season one box set. Many other sites have removed listings for future volumes. Nothing has been officially announced but all signs are pointing to no more single releases.

Conan the SSJ · Post by **Conan the SSJ** » Tue May 30, 2006 2:01 pm

Namek'jin Ryu wrote:So wait, let me get this strait. FUNimation has decided to stop releasing the Ultimate Uncut Edition's altogether now, or is this what some are just speculating? Proof of this would come as great help.

"There's a site too!?"

I'm personally very much looking forward to the season 1 release. Also, why the hell wouldn't it be uncut? All the cartoon network aired version altered were the eye-catchers and ending credit sequence. Plus, last time I checked, it's already been confirmed that the Japanese version will be included. The worst one can expect from these DVDs is that they'll lack the Spanish-Mexican version present in the UUs, as well as the DBZ trivia (though the Goku/Vegeta featurette may be on disc 7 :p). When looking at something like my Smallville season 1 DVD set, I know it's entirely possible for FUNi to give these episodes justice on a dual-layered bilingual DVD release. Can't wait!

Funny how 39 episodes of DBZ will be only $50, whilst 13 episodes of Naruto will be that same price. >_>;;

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Tue May 30, 2006 2:04 pm

Conan the SSJ wrote:Funny how 39 episodes of DBZ will be only $50, whilst 13 episodes of Naruto will be that same price. >_>;;

Unlike Dragon Ball Z, none of Naruto's uncut episodes have been released on DVD before. Let us not forget, the quality might not be so red hot on the DBZ box set.

Namek'jin Ryu · Post by **Namek'jin Ryu** » Tue May 30, 2006 3:09 pm

Conan the SSJ wrote:"There's a site too!?"

Don't worry; I know there is a site to go along with this forum. After all, how do you think I got to this forum? From the "Message Board" link out on the site.

I know you are trying to help, but the proof I'm looking for is not the actual fact Season 1 is coming out, however; if FUNimation has actually stopped producing the Vegeta Saga II individual DVD's?

DaemonCorps · Post by **DaemonCorps** » Tue May 30, 2006 4:15 pm

Tsukento wrote:
Conan the SSJ wrote:Funny how 39 episodes of DBZ will be only $50, whilst 13 episodes of Naruto will be that same price. >_>;;
Unlike Dragon Ball Z, none of Naruto's uncut episodes have been released on DVD before. Let us not forget, the quality might not be so red hot on the DBZ box set.

And there's not that much of a change between the US Naruto script and the JP one... But I still don't think that picture quality is enough to decrease the price of something like DBZ, which has been releasing these UUEs for $25 retail price.

Son Goku · Post by **Son Goku** » Tue May 30, 2006 4:50 pm

DBZ, sorry to say it, is getting... a little dated. While, on the other hand, Naruto is getting more popular every Saturday (according to sources, it's getting more viewers every night, including nearly A MILLION viewers every week in the age group it's being aimed at).

So, Viz (who dubs Naruto) wants MEGA MOOLAH (morning : P) .

And sorry for the 4Kids reference hidden in there. I couldn't resist.

Tanooki Kuribo · Post by **Tanooki Kuribo** » Tue May 30, 2006 4:59 pm

Of course it's dated, its over 20 years old and of course a newer show is going to be more popular in the raitings.

LegendarySSJ7 · Post by **LegendarySSJ7** » Tue May 30, 2006 7:09 pm

For me, I think what hurts the Ultimate Uncut Editions of Seasons 1 through 2 the most is not the actual performances, but how forced they sound and how they simply don't fit in the context of the characters as well as the original OCEAN dub VAs did, not to mention how they don't sound as swell as they could have with the original (and slightly modified) dialogue.

As such, I feel Brian Drummond, Scott McNeil, and Ian Corlett were far superior from a performance standpoint than Chris Sabat and Sean Schemmel were, perhaps because they fit the characters better (for that time, to be fair, anyway), again, and don't sound nearly as forced. (not to mention that Gohan sounds nothing like his age, and that I can't help but cringe whenever I hear Chris Sabat as Nappa or as Piccolo... it all sounds... so wrong... and doesn't transition well into Season 3's only more horrid by a smidgen FUNimation dub, anyway, IMHO).

But I do appreciate the additional Japanese audio track and the utterly stellar subtitles.

BrollysKin · Post by **BrollysKin** » Tue May 30, 2006 7:25 pm

Well it's not really up to us. Funimation will do what it wants regardless.

Namek'jin Ryu · Post by **Namek'jin Ryu** » Wed May 31, 2006 4:07 pm

LegendarySSJ7 wrote:For me, I think what hurts the Ultimate Uncut Editions of Seasons 1 through 2 the most is not the actual performances, but how forced they sound and how they simply don't fit in the context of the characters as well as the original OCEAN dub VAs did, not to mention how they don't sound as swell as they could have with the original (and slightly modified) dialogue.

As such, I feel Brian Drummond, Scott McNeil, and Ian Corlett were far superior from a performance standpoint than Chris Sabat and Sean Schemmel were, perhaps because they fit the characters better (for that time, to be fair, anyway), again, and don't sound nearly as forced. (not to mention that Gohan sounds nothing like his age, and that I can't help but cringe whenever I hear Chris Sabat as Nappa or as Piccolo... it all sounds... so wrong... and doesn't transition well into Season 3's only more horrid by a smidgen FUNimation dub, anyway, IMHO).

I was trying to come up with a way to explain why I liked Ocean Dub's Voice Actor's more in the first two series, and I think LegendarySSJ7, pretty much summed it up.

I, for one, thought the Ocean Dub's cast was quite spectacular in the way they sounded with the characters at this point in time. Seeing as FUNimation took over during Season 3, it made the characters sound as if they had aged a little bit, and with age comes the changing of voices, which is why I think it suits where it was changed. What I’m trying to get at is at the beginning of DragonBall Z the characters needed to sound a bit childish for they were still, in the mind of some who had never watched DragonBall, in their teenage years. As the series progressed you could sort of hear their voices and how they changed, thus when the Frieza Saga came along, it was time for the characters to all sound as if they had matured, or were at least starting to. As the Saga's went along all the voices seemed to get deeper and deeper, thus why I feel it was almost perfect.

With the Ultimate Uncut's it seems the characters are past their teenage years, which they might be, but when we get to the Frieza Saga it appears as if their voices are still changing from what they had already sounded like. I guess one could look at it in this point of view: Let's say when we were born we already had our matured voice, then puberty came along and our voices started to squeak and whatnot, finally they changed, yet they changed back into what they were previously. Just doesn't quite make sense to do that now does it?

I know I kind of rambled on more then I should've, but I'm hoping it makes sense to most of you here.

Blitzen · Post by **Blitzen** » Wed May 31, 2006 7:48 pm

My take on the preference of Ocean and why UUE doesn't sound right.

What you also need to understand is that the Ocean Group have been dubbing Anime/Cartoons for years. FUNimation's cast, on the other hand, had limited/no acting experience. A lot of people (despite what they may say) heard the Ocean Group first, and therefore that's the voices they associate with those episodes. It's like how people prefer subtitled Anime. Sure, sometimes dubs are bad, but a lot of the time (well not a lot, but it's happened on more than one occasion), the Japanese audio becomes their default. It's becomes more natural to them. To then go into something completely different, regardless of acting quality, just sounds really, really wrong.

BrollysKin · Post by **BrollysKin** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 8:45 pm

Ughh... The japanese audio quality on these disks suck.

Post by **VegettoEX** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 8:57 pm

BrollysKin wrote:Ughh... The japanese audio quality on these disks suck.

That's what happens when you have a weekly TV show from 1989 to 1995.

Blitzen · Post by **Blitzen** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 9:57 pm

VegettoEX wrote:
BrollysKin wrote:Ughh... The japanese audio quality on these disks suck.
That's what happens when you have a weekly TV show from 1989 to 1995.

Actually, it's what happens when you get bad masters for a weekely TV show from 1989 to 1995. Saint Seiya, an older series, sounded fine (from what I can remember) on it's DVD release, though my memory is kinda fuzzy on that.

goku 333 · Post by **goku 333** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:38 pm

Speaking of DVDs a week ago I came back from Belgium and I saw some strange box sets of DB and DBZ (with extremely crudely drawn covers). There were two types: a full saga (on 8 DVDs retailing for 70 Euros) and something that looked like half a saga (on 4 DVDs retailing for 35 Euros).