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Post by ABED » Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:40 am

My Simpsons comparison was more along the lines that nobody ages. One of the things I loved about DB and Z was that the characters actually aged
There are pluses and minuses to both approaches. Also, it's two vastly different genres. One's an animated sitcom, the other is an action adventure story. While the characters age in DB, I honestly don't think they mature that much, so them aging isn't as big a point in its favor. Goku and Bulma become parents, but they are the same characters we met in the first episode. Buffy changes much more in a shorter period of time.
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Post by TheMikado » Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:20 am

Wow all the people complaining about resetting things so they never happened must REALLY hate Charles Dickens a Christmas Carol. I mean what was the point of telling a story like that if they just going to make it all seem like a dream anyway? And Flight of the Navigator, etc... I mean those are terrible stories that shouldn't have bothered to be written in the first place.

I think I fail to see how enjoying a story up to a certain point means he entirety of the story should never have been written in the first place. In either case, it just seems easy and logical in order to make everything still connect and be valid.

Anyway my theory of there being spin offs makes sense in the context of the XV manga being done and the extra time given to Trunks in the manga. To me this all points to a perfect setup for Time Patrol with the timing of all these announcements during the Trunks arc.

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Post by Big Black Sayian » Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:22 am

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Big Black Saiyan wrote:Isn't this mostly about manga anyways?
No. Shueisha is the ultimate rights-holder for the franchise. They can commission anything their heart desires.
Oh wow thanks for the info. Is Shueisha making a wish to Shenron? :lol:

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Post by ABED » Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:26 am

TheMikado wrote:Wow all the people complaining about resetting things so they never happened must REALLY hate Charles Dickens a Christmas Carol. I mean what was the point of telling a story like that if they just going to make it all seem like a dream anyway? And Flight of the Navigator, etc... I mean those are terrible stories that shouldn't have bothered to be written in the first place.

I think I fail to see how enjoying a story up to a certain point means he entirety of the story should never have been written in the first place. In either case, it just seems easy and logical in order to make everything still connect and be valid.

Anyway my theory of there being spin offs makes sense in the context of the XV manga being done and the extra time given to Trunks in the manga. To me this all points to a perfect setup for Time Patrol with the timing of all these announcements during the Trunks arc.
But it wasn't a dream, it was a short self contained story where nothing was erased from the story. I don't see how A Christmas Carol is like that at all. What you are talking about is more like Dallas. You can get away with it if it's an episode, like that episode of Batman where it turns out Batgirl's death was her Scarecrow induced nightmare, but an entire arc? That's not growth, that's an apology.
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:39 pm

It's been what 4/5 months since this thing was started? Glad they're taking their time and not rushing any idea out the window.

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Post by ArchedThunder » Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:42 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:It's been what 4/5 months since this thing was started? Glad they're taking their time and not rushing any idea out the window.
I get the feeling we won't see their first big thing until after Toyotaro finishes the Future Trunks arc of the Super manga.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:45 pm

I personally think this could be big news for the franchise. As having a department solely focused on Dragon Ball could result a great amount of quality control for franchise, As well as more content being produced in the years to come. If one thing is for sure, Super will definitely benefit from having a department that would focus on the show and ensure that it maintains a good standard of production. Plus, it could all lead to TV deals, videogame publishing and all other kinds of international distributional agreements being sorted out much more efficiently. This is all a very significant development for the grand scheme of the longevity of the franchise in Japan and around the world. I don't think Shueisha do this with their other properties so it is all very potentially exciting as a fan to now that Shueisha appear to be taking expanding Dragon Ball in terms of content and brand recognition very seriously.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:52 pm

From 1998-2007, fans for years wanted more material and they wanted Toriyama to return. So I'm glad that we are getting that most of us wanted for over a decade.
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Post by PhoenixEX » Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:03 pm

Maybe this means that we'll finally get a Jaco the Galactic Patrolman manga series and a Pan slice of life what-if? spin-off that we've all secretly wanted!
If anything, it'd be great if different artists created manga and anime for separate characters in the Dragon Ball world or brand new characters in the Dragon Ball universe. Something like DC Comics.
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Post by Sodhi » Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:48 pm

Toriyama actually said "It’d really be great if this way I won’t have to do anything!!!!”. It is more serious than I thought about toriyama not wanting to work anymore on dragon ball.
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Post by Grimlock » Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:53 pm

Sodhi wrote:Toriyama actually said "It’d really be great if this way I won’t have to do anything!!!!”. It is more serious than I thought.
For a mangaka that supposedly likes to draw, Toriyama really demonstrates the opposite. It's becoming a serious issue indeed. I always took his statement about it lightly, thinking it as being a joke or something, but after this one and this time... It was a "wait a minute..." reaction for me. :|

If he doesn't want to do anything more, then just retire already and let someone else do it but without complainings (something that he has already done in the past, twice as far as I can remember). Let Toyotaro, Ooishi Naho and even Toei do their own things, then.

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Post by ArchedThunder » Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:06 pm

Sodhi wrote:Toriyama actually said "It’d really be great if this way I won’t have to do anything!!!!”. It is more serious than I thought about toriyama not wanting to work.
It's a joke, seriously guys, do you not know his sense of humor?

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Post by Bansho64 » Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:08 pm

ArchedThunder wrote: It's a joke, seriously guys, do you not know his sense of humor?
He's said stuff like this before though. Him leaving the game again ain't that a stretch in the least.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:12 pm

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Sodhi wrote:Toriyama actually said "It’d really be great if this way I won’t have to do anything!!!!”. It is more serious than I thought.
For a mangaka that supposedly likes to draw, Toriyama really demonstrates the opposite. It's becoming a serious issue indeed. I always took his statement about it lightly, thinking it as being a joke or something, but after this one and this time... It was a "wait a minute..." reaction for me. :|

If he doesn't want to do anything more, then just retire already and let someone else do it but without complainings (something that he has already done in the past, twice as far as I can remember). Let Toyotaro, Ooishi Naho and even Toei do their own things, then.
I don't recall Toriyama ever wanting to spearhead the revival of Dragon Ball content. He was just brought in to do a few sketches, write some rough concepts and do the occasional promotional tie-in product. He's already stated in the past how he would never want to do something like a long running manga again. (Check my sig if you don't believe me) So even having him so willingly heavily involved in the production of Battle of Gods, Xenoverse, Resurrection F and Super, in the both the anime and manga, is nothing short of a miracle. I'm quite frankly surprised he didn't bow out after Battle Of Gods.

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Post by Sodhi » Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:13 pm

A joke would be something like, looks like I dont have to do anything now or You know I am leaving this you right (Laughs). That sounded really serious. Especially with all the exclamation points and he uses the words
It'd be great if this way.

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Post by ArchedThunder » Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:20 pm

Sodhi wrote:A joke would be something like, looks like I dont have to do anything now or You know I am leaving this you right (Laughs). That sounded really serious. Especially with all the exclamation points and he uses the words
It'd be great if this way.
All the exclamation points add to it being a joke. Seriously people, calm down.

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Post by Sodhi » Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:25 pm

I really hope he was not serious. However I think this time he actually meant it. I'll not be surprised if with every other new material his involvement will be less and less.
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Post by VegettoEX » Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:27 pm

Can we please not get this pedantic over the meaning of exactly how many exclamation points there are? This kind of language has been used time and time again, is nothing new, and as of this moment really doesn't give much to discuss. Quite frankly, I don't understand how this is page 11 of the thread.
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Post by dragonballhero » Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:28 pm

PhoenixEX wrote:Maybe this means that we'll finally get a Jaco the Galactic Patrolman manga series and a Pan slice of life what-if? spin-off that we've all secretly wanted!
If anything, it'd be great if different artists created manga and anime for separate characters in the Dragon Ball world or brand new characters in the Dragon Ball universe. Something like DC Comics.
I'd like to see both of those things, personally!

Also, I wonder how they're going to let other artists handle their ideas for Dragon Ball. I mean, I can't imagine them letting people go TOO crazy, if that makes sense...

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:37 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:It's been what 4/5 months since this thing was started? Glad they're taking their time and not rushing any idea out the window.
I get the feeling we won't see their first big thing until after Toyotaro finishes the Future Trunks arc of the Super manga.
Maybe this is why he's had increased pages?

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