If I may ask, what made you change your mind?Saiga wrote:I respect Broli's strength now, and think that being at the same level as a Super Saiyan 2 would be good. I like movie 8 and movie 10, actually.
Well, when I was a much younger fan, I hadn't seen the movies and so believed all the stuff about him being up there with Boo, Gogeta, etc in power. When I found out he wasn't anywhere near that and it was just hype, I hated how overrated he was and thought he was just stronger than a regular Super Saiyan. After getting over all the fanboyism for him, I no longer hate him and I'm not bias towards him.dprez wrote:If I may ask, what made you change your mind?Saiga wrote:I respect Broli's strength now, and think that being at the same level as a Super Saiyan 2 would be good. I like movie 8 and movie 10, actually.
Did you just now begin to believe this, since you said "now" and "actually"?
I am honestly very curious as to what made you come to this understanding, as it took me quite a while my self.
Broli is kind of inconsistent in his showings throughout both movies. In movie 8 he pwns everybody but then all of a sudden Goku can channel everybodies power (why don't they always do that?) and beat him in one hit. In movie 10, SS2 Gohan punching Broli in the face was always one of the things that I used as a positive for Broli. However in that same movie Gohan powers out of a hold that Broli has him in. We also have the odd ending where Broli can't add power to his attack because of something Trunks did which allows SS Goten, SS1 or possibly SS2 Gohan, and maybe/maybe not Goku (who were losing) to out power Broli and launch him to the sun.Haji wrote:In the 10th DBZ movie Gohan was SSJ2, I didn't see it at first but just look at his hair. I think Broli could be around SSJ2 power. Gohan didn't get weak over time like what people think, its just that Gohan, as Vegeta put it, "lost his intuition for fighting" and he seems to have lost the ability to feed of the power of rage. Goku and Vegeta as SSJ2 are about even, when Goku when SSJ2, Vegeta said something like "your more powerful than Gohan, impressive" That makes me think that Goku,Gohan and Vegeta as SSJ2 are around the same area of power. And yet Broli took a punch to the face from SSJ2 Gohan and didn't even blink. Thats why i think that Brolli is way more powerful than what people think, and why i find it funny that they think Cell could beat Broli.
He's talking about, when Buu first formed ie. before powering up to the point Gohan and co. thought he was too strong.Fox666 wrote:I don't believe in an "initial Majin Boo". Vegeta hit him several times, sure, but he also let Gohan, Kaioshin and Dabura attack him.
Cell has regeneration and not to mention if he gets a zenkai after he reforms his own after it was destroy then Broly could be totally screw.why i find it funny that they think Cell could beat Broli.
What dbgtfo said.Fox666 wrote:I don't believe in an "initial Majin Boo". Vegeta hit him several times, sure, but he also let Gohan, Kaioshin and Dabura attack him.
Mr Lao is clearly meant to be a DB Budokai standard of fighter imo. He should be able to decimate Mr Satan considering Videl, who was stronger than Mr Satan, practised with a punching bag.NitroEX wrote:Who do you think would win in a fight between Mr. Lao and (the H-word)/Mr. Satan?
(Both during the Cell saga)
What makes you believe that?FNF wrote:When Boo first formed he was a joke compared to SSjin2 Goku and Vegeta.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
Everyone but Kaioshin (who was extra-cautious of anyone associated with Bobbodi, including Boo, and knew the full extent of his powers and that he'd killed his older and stronger comrades) thought Boo was a joke when he first appeared, either due to his suppressed power, his childish nature, or both.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:What makes you believe that?FNF wrote:When Boo first formed he was a joke compared to SSjin2 Goku and Vegeta.
Vegeta clearly believes that Boo is nothing to them, with Goku only musing that something's abnormal about his ki, whether that be his demonic nature or that Goku can feel that he has more power within him. And, as we see, Goku's proven right, after Boo powers up and easily defeats the previously confident Gohan, Dabra and Kaioshin.Strength Checker wrote:Chapter: 461 (DBZ 267), P4.6, P5.4-6
Goku: “It’s a ki…! A huge ki has appeared…! Majin Boo has finally come out…”
Vegeta: “Fuffuffuh…Majin Boo, huh?...Here I was wondering what kind of amazing guy he would be, and he’s got this kind of battle power number?...I thought so…Kakarot, you and I have now become too strong…By a wide margin! By his nature, Kaioshin is supposed to be someone tremendous, but have you ever once thought that he was incredible? Quite the opposite, its Kaioshin who’s been bewildered…Majin Boo is fearsome from Kaioshin’s perspective, but from ours he’s not so much…”
Goku: “N-no…That’s not it…There’s something abnormal about this ki...”
Chapter: 461 (DBZ 267), P7.6
Dabra: “I don’t know why, but it seems we failed…I thought [Boo] had finally appeared, but it’s just some stupid-looking raw garbage, without brains or power…”
Chapter: 461 (DBZ 267), P9.1-2
Gohan: “Looks like Majin Boo’s a failure, Kaioshin!”
Kaioshin: “A failure? …That is Majin Boo…”
Strength Checker wrote:Chapter: 462 (DBZ 268), P1.2-4, P2.5
Context: after Boo beats Dabra
Gohan: “It-it rose…Majin Boo’s ki rose explosively…He’s str-strong…Too strong…This is unbelievable…”
Trunks: “…What the…!? This time I feel an incredible ki over there too…What’s going on?...”
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Goku: “…It changed into an outrageous ki…So Majin Boo really isn’t anyone ordinary after all…This ain’t no time to be doing this kinda thing…! We’re the ones who let this monster out…”
Holden Caulfield in [b][i]The Catcher in the Rye[/i][/b] wrote:I hope to hell when I do die somebody has sense enough to just dump me in the river or something. Anything except sticking me in a goddam cemetery. People coming and putting a bunch of flowers on your stomach on Sunday, and all that crap. Who wants flowers when you're dead? Nobody.
Yeah, we know that. I mean, he could probably still be blasted apart by Vegeta, but he'd just regenerate. Boo ends up getting blasted apart by people weaker than him (see: Super Boo vs. gunmen, or Kid Boo vs. Vegeta), but it doesn't matter because he can just regenerate from it. It would take something much, much stronger than him (like Goku's Genki-Dama against Kid Boo) to completely obliterate him.Fox666 wrote:Well, I don't think Majin Boo holding back his Ki would effectively affect his strength... it's not like someone could just attack him from behind and he would be done.
Holden Caulfield in [b][i]The Catcher in the Rye[/i][/b] wrote:I hope to hell when I do die somebody has sense enough to just dump me in the river or something. Anything except sticking me in a goddam cemetery. People coming and putting a bunch of flowers on your stomach on Sunday, and all that crap. Who wants flowers when you're dead? Nobody.
