Dragon Ball Z "Seasons" On Blu-ray: News & Discussion

[Blu-ray_Mistress]

See, I just got the 8 Kai season sets and stopped there, aside from the bluray movie packs. Saw no point in getting the boxes or orange bricks since its not the Kai dub and I cant stand the old english dub we have. Id love for Funimation to give the original Dragonball series a Kai treatment.

Agreed, I would love to see that too.

[dbboxkaifan]

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DBZ 2013 Blu-ray



DBK Japanese Broadcast

Goku's contrast is a bit too high but remember, it's taken from the YouTube trailer.

I would've liked for the FUNimation Kai Blu-rays to be in 16:9 AR so I'd have gotten the same experience as the same in Japan though I could've just zoomed in but the cropping wouldn't be done properly. Loved Kai's Saiyan to Freeza arcs but the rest was just unpleasant to watch.

[Im insaneFromEarth]

Cropping:

DBZ 2013 Blu-ray



DBK Japanese Broadcast

Goku's contrast is a bit too high but remember, it's taken from the YouTube trailer.

I would've liked for the FUNimation Kai Blu-rays to be in 16:9 AR so I'd have gotten the same experience as the same in Japan though I could've just zoomed in but the cropping wouldn't be done properly. Loved Kai's Saiyan to Freeza arcs but the rest was just unpleasant to watch.

So thats the16:9 of Kai that aird in Japan, I have to say it looks beautiful. I will just wait and see what the Blu-Ray season looks like when it comes out.

[KingofWisdom]

You could buy the DVDs and stretch the picture to fill the screen.

[MagicBox]

For the record, I was talking about FUNimation's Kai Blu-ray original "Part 1" in there. So yeah, 8th time purchasing Raditz from FUNimation.

Ah, I misunderstood. I thought you were referring to the "season one" set. I figured you would have bought the "Rock The Dragon" set, too.

To add to what Lemmy said, I'm surprised FUNi isn't sending you guys review copies of stuff by now.

[KingofWisdom]

Probably because Mike rips FUNimation a new asshole nine out of ten times. And rightly so.

[VegettoEX]

Oh geeze, I forgot "Rock the Dragon". I do have that, too.

This is insane.

[Gonstead]

Oh geeze, I forgot "Rock the Dragon". I do have that, too.

This is insane.

It's a battle for collection supremacy! DBZ Movie 1 vs The Early Saiyan Saga with Raditz!

[Metalwario64]

Goku's contrast is a bit too high but remember, it's taken from the YouTube trailer.

Compression doesn't radically change videos' colors (if even at all). We've all been over this a dozen times now.

[KingofWisdom]

The set is coming out next month too, so it's not a work in progress. Those are what the colors will look like.

[Roland_ELoG]

True, I aslo took look at amazon for the orange sets at Aspect Ratio: 1.77:1. But the Blu-Ray season one set (wich I want) 1.33:1. I heard that when Kai was on tv in Japan it looked great, I might be wrong. But maybe this time around it will be better than the orange sets.

It looked pretty great. I saw parts of the early Cell arc, on a widescreen but (I believe) standard def TV. The colors really impressed me; it wasn't until later that I realized the loss of detail and the spotty Frieza animation. Now, I'm not really a fan.

Think you'd get a complimentary dinner by now.

Buy 10 and the 11th one is complimentary. As in we won't charge you for the privilege to buy our next set.

[Im insaneFromEarth]

True, I aslo took look at amazon for the orange sets at Aspect Ratio: 1.77:1. But the Blu-Ray season one set (wich I want) 1.33:1. I heard that when Kai was on tv in Japan it looked great, I might be wrong. But maybe this time around it will be better than the orange sets.

It looked pretty great. I saw parts of the early Cell arc, on a widescreen but (I believe) standard def TV. The colors really impressed me; it wasn't until later that I realized the loss of detail and the spotty Freeza animation. Now, I'm not really a fan.

LOL, well I hope it wont have missing areas like the bricks did. But I am still hoping it will look great. I hope, or maybe my hopes are high

[kei17]

Loved Kai's Saiyan to Freeza arcs but the rest was just unpleasant to watch.

You keep sayin' that huh? There is no, absolutely NO difference in the image quality between the Cell arc and the rest.

[Roland_ELoG]

LOL, well I hope it wont have missing areas like the bricks did. But I am still hoping it will look great. I hope, or maybe my hopes are high

If you buy the US Blu-ray of Kai you won't any missing screen regions. You still get really smoothed over colors though, but that's just how Kai rolls. And some of the animation during the Frieza arc looks like it needs to be anti-aliased.

[KingofWisdom]

This won't look as good as Kai, which itself doesn't even look all that great.

[dbboxkaifan]

You could buy the DVDs and stretch the picture to fill the screen.

Automated crop =/= Proper crop

Loved Kai's Saiyan to Freeza arcs but the rest was just unpleasant to watch.

You keep sayin' that huh? There is no, absolutely NO difference in the image quality between the Cell arc and the rest.

I watched all of it on Blu-ray and starting from Mecha Freeza to the end of Cell's arc it looked vastly inferior with dirt and just overall not really properly remastered.

[TheGreatness25]

They can say that it's "pan and scan" all they want, but I honestly thing it's going to be the exact same thing as the Season Sets, which everyone here can agree, sucked. I haven't compared what little we saw in the trailer to the Season Sets, but I have a strong feeling that it's the same thing. Why?

1) Really fast production. I mean really. It got put out so fast that it looks like no real work was done. Seems more like, "We took the material we already had and put it through the stupid machine" or in this case, "We took the material we already had and upscaled it to blu-ray."

2) wide Screen. This one is the big tip off for me. With all the negative feedback and reaction to the Season Sets, with all the love for the Dragon Box (then again, Dragon Ball fans are their own worst enemy and waiting for prices to drop made it look like not many cared for the Dragon Boxes), why would they even other doing wide screen? Because that's what they already have.

I think this is going to be a poor release and even though the stupid idiotic collector in me will still end up getting this crap, I still don't think it's any different than the Season Sets. At all. When they release Dragon Ball GT in blu-ray in full screen, I'll laugh my ass off because that will further confirm what I'm saying.

I just don't understand how you could go from saying, "Well doing a proper transfer of the show to blu-ray was really expensive and time consuming so we stopped," to "NO! This isn't a lazy production! We put a lot of effort into this!" Them canceling the Level sets is basically evidence that they didn't want to work too hard on the transfer. I hated how little episodes were on the Level sets, but bought the two that came out and shake my head at the thought of this set coming out and them trying to justify it and pretend like it's so great when they already admitted that they have no interest in doing it right.

If you don't want to do it right, don't do it at all. We don't have lack of DBZ in the world. We have a lack of GOOD DBZ.

[Sin]

*long post*

I agree, I don't know how well they're going to hold up this whole 'pan & scan' thing, I just don't see them taking the time to go through every scene doing this.

[dbboxkaifan]

Really fast production. I mean really. It got put out so fast that it looks like no real work was done.

The DBZ Levels were cancelled in 2011 and after that they could've started developing the DBZ 2013 Blu-rays which we're now seeing a bit of. Survey didn't really mean much otherwise they'd have announced Dragon Box: The Movies or something.

With all the negative feedback and reaction to the Season Sets, with all the love for the Dragon Box

That's not exactly true. The Orange Bricks are the ones with more love rather than the Dragon Boxes, if the OBs were so detested then why does it keep getting 5 star reviews on Amazon? Ah yes, the customers love them.

Also, if you visit other websites and forums you'll see that people are perfectly happy with the Orange Bricks, a while ago there was a discussion on IMDb about the OBs Vs. DBOX and the majority preferred the OBs.

[TheGreatness25]

Sorry for the long post lol I like writing, what can I say? lol

But yeah. You basically started off saying, "We're too broke and lazy to do this thing right..." then say, "HEY! We did it! It's great! You'll love it!" It's like, why? Why bother? Stop trying to convince me that you did a great job the right way when you told me just a short time before that, that you don't want to do it the right way.

Really fast production. I mean really. It got put out so fast that it looks like no real work was done.

The DBZ Levels were cancelled in 2011 and after that they could've started developing the DBZ 2013 Blu-rays which we're now seeing a bit of. Survey didn't really mean much otherwise they'd have announced Dragon Box: The Movies or something.

They were doing another project (the Rock the Dragon) set. I don't think they'd have dedicated teams doing two pieces of Dragon Ball material at the same time. Besides, what would happen if the survey showed that people preferred 4:3? Did they have the 4:3 and just decide to chop the top and bottom off because of the survey? I don't think so. I think they had this in mind from the beginning and didn't care about the answer on the survey. That's if thye started production on this thing a long time ago. If they actually waited for the answer to the survey, that means they pumped this thing out quick. Either way, it's a negative thing. "Hey, you want another dose of our experimental 16:9?" Trying to make us like it lol

With all the negative feedback and reaction to the Season Sets, with all the love for the Dragon Box

That's not exactly true. The Orange Bricks are the ones with more love rather than the Dragon Boxes, if the OBs were so detested then why does it keep getting 5 star reviews on Amazon? Ah yes, the customers love them.

The Season Sets are a cheap and very available way to get the Dragon Ball Z series. I'm sure if the Dragon Box was on every store shelf for the same MSRP, that not many people would choose to get the Season Sets. The consumer might love them, but that's basically saying that they love the series. This is because every single time I walk into a store, the ONLY DBZ material I see is this. If something else was occupying that space, that product would receive the same love.

Also, if you visit other websites and forums you'll see that people are perfectly happy with the Orange Bricks, a while ago there was a discussion on IMDb about the OBs Vs. DBOX and the majority preferred the OBs.

Don't know about this, but I don't think it has to do with the cropping. Look, I understand why someone would love the really bright vivid colors and how sharp the picture looks (I'm one of the guys that does believe that the picture is sharp). Also, the MSRP and availability has a lot to do with this. More people were exposed to the Season Sets. Also, not every fan is in the loop of what's going on (with the 20% cut out footage). I'm saying that the blu-rays don't have to look like the Dragon Box. Bright and grainless, fine. Go for it. But the issue is the picture cutting. If the colors and the look was the same as the Season Sets, I'd be fine. I mean I'd prefer if their noses, mouths, outlines, and other details didn't disappear from time to time, but whatever. My issue is the cropping. And hey, DBZ fans, if your only argument is, "I like it to fit the TV," then do everyone a favor, stop being lazy and just zoom the footage in to make it 16:9 instead of making all of us go through missing footage...such as mouths during dialog when there is a closeup of the face.