The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Hellspawn28]

Jaco vs. Garlic Jr

Rules:

- No immortality
- No outside help
- Garlic Jr can transform in his second form in round 2

Who wins?

[Galan007]

Match 1:
Base Goku(RoF) + Base Vegeta(RoF) [VS.] SSG Goku

Match 2:
SSG Goku + SSG Vegeta [VS.] SSGSS Goku

[TheGmGoken]

Ben 10 gaulet DB universe?

[singsing]

Ben 10 gaulet DB universe?

Alien X solo's once he stops standing around arguing with himself/herself/itself.

[Sayo-chan]

Ben 10 gaulet DB universe?

I feel like Roshi alone would be able to one-shot anyone from that godawful franchise.

[ZombieVito]

Jaco vs. Garlic Jr

Rules:

- No immortality
- No outside help
- Garlic Jr can transform in his second form in round 2

Who wins?

Minus Jaco beats M1 Garlic.
Garlic when he returns in the anime slaughters Jaco.

Match 1:
Base Goku(RoF) + Base Vegeta(RoF) [VS.] SSG Goku

Match 2:
SSG Goku + SSG Vegeta [VS.] SSGSS Goku

SSG Goku stomps.
SSGSS Goku puts a great fight but losses.

[supercat]

All right, try these on for size:

Mr. Satan VS. Goku
Conditions -
*No ki based attacks
*Both have a battle power of 10
*Imagine Cell broke it down like he just didn't care, prompting Goku and Mr. Satan to have a match in the Cell Games arena.
*Pretty much a martial arts battle until someone dies or rings out.

Piccolo VS. 17
Conditions -
*Ki can only be used for flight.
*Both have a battle power of 10.
*Cell doesn't exist, Piccolo fights 17 on the island uninterrupted.

Roid Roshi VS. Nappa
Conditions -
*The Saiyans came back sooner than expected.
*Everyone dies but Roshi.
*Both have a battle power of 2,000.
*Vegeta falls asleep because he's bored, so no interference.

Piccolo VS. Imperfect Cell
Conditions -
*Both are set loose on opposite ends of a small planet with lush, dense vegetation, roughly 50 times the size of Kaio's.
*Neither can sense one another's ki.
*Both have an equal battle power roughly the same as Cell before he absorbed 17.

Majin Vegeta VS. Goku
Conditions -
*Majin Boo doesn't exist.
*Vegeta murders all of Goku's friends.
*Both are set on only one coming out alive.
*Equal battle powers.

Gohan-Boo VS. Beerus
Conditions -
*The planet cannot be destroyed.
*Equal battle powers and ki.

Perfect Cell (GT Goku absorbed) VS. Whis
Conditions -
*Fight on Kaio's planet, which is also indestructible.
*Whis can't control time.
*Goku can't escape from Cell's insides.
*Cell retains all of Goku's power during the Super 17 arc.

Broly VS. Beerus and Whis
Conditions -
*Broly killed everyone back in the 8th movie.
*Broly's been growing exponentially stronger up until the fight (BoGs time period).
*Whis can't control time.

-In addition to the fact that Goku is far more seasoned than Hercule, he's also equipped with superior durability. Toss these two factors in with his adept battle prowess, and the latter has absolutely no chance of winning whatsoever.

-They were basically even in the original timeline, yet neither one was able to completely outshine the other. Piccolo's limited stamina is his greatest disadvantage here, but as long as he plays it smart, goes all out right from the get-go, and uses a strong finisher like Makankosappo, he should have a pretty good chance.

-Regardless of if Nappa was fooling around with his opponents or not, the amount of difficulty he had against weaker foes tells me that he, along with the vast majority of other Saiyans during his time only managed to earn their daunting reputation through sheer strength alone.

-Despite being a strategically gifted fighter, facing off against a biological creation that's fueled by the cells of some of the fiercest fighters in the universe is no walk in the park. That said, I've always felt that Cell's artificially created abilities fell short of their original copies.

-I personally perceive the two of them as near equals when it comes to tactical prowess. That said, Goku being the fighting genius he is, probably holds a slight edge, as was evidenced in their initial fight in the Saiyan arc.

-Although Buuhan may have the wisdom extracted from the mind of Piccolo, and a diverse array of moves courtesy of Gotenks, Beerus still likely has him outclassed in both categories.

-Cell may be a formidable warrior against a handful of fighters, but in the face of Whis, he's nothing but a mere novice.

-I honestly don't see Broly as anything beyond a senseless brute, who sloppily muscles his way into every victory. With his less than ideal intelligence and complete lack of battle ingenuity, it won't be long until he becomes the laughingstock. Regardless, even if we're strictly basing things on strength (his only area of expertise), he would still end up utterly humiliated. This so-called residual increase in power seemed like another over hyped claim that was attached to his name.

[Sayo-chan]

All right, try these on for size:

Mr. Satan VS. Goku
Conditions -
*No ki based attacks
*Both have a battle power of 10
*Imagine Cell broke it down like he just didn't care, prompting Goku and Mr. Satan to have a match in the Cell Games arena.
*Pretty much a martial arts battle until someone dies or rings out.

Piccolo VS. 17
Conditions -
*Ki can only be used for flight.
*Both have a battle power of 10.
*Cell doesn't exist, Piccolo fights 17 on the island uninterrupted.

Roid Roshi VS. Nappa
Conditions -
*The Saiyans came back sooner than expected.
*Everyone dies but Roshi.
*Both have a battle power of 2,000.
*Vegeta falls asleep because he's bored, so no interference.

Piccolo VS. Imperfect Cell
Conditions -
*Both are set loose on opposite ends of a small planet with lush, dense vegetation, roughly 50 times the size of Kaio's.
*Neither can sense one another's ki.
*Both have an equal battle power roughly the same as Cell before he absorbed 17.

Majin Vegeta VS. Goku
Conditions -
*Majin Boo doesn't exist.
*Vegeta murders all of Goku's friends.
*Both are set on only one coming out alive.
*Equal battle powers.

Gohan-Boo VS. Beerus
Conditions -
*The planet cannot be destroyed.
*Equal battle powers and ki.

Perfect Cell (GT Goku absorbed) VS. Whis
Conditions -
*Fight on Kaio's planet, which is also indestructible.
*Whis can't control time.
*Goku can't escape from Cell's insides.
*Cell retains all of Goku's power during the Super 17 arc.

Broly VS. Beerus and Whis
Conditions -
*Broly killed everyone back in the 8th movie.
*Broly's been growing exponentially stronger up until the fight (BoGs time period).
*Whis can't control time.

-In addition to the fact that Goku is far more seasoned than (the H-word), he's also equipped with superior durability. Toss these two factors in with his adept battle prowess, and the latter has absolutely no chance of winning whatsoever.

-They were basically even in the original timeline, yet neither one was able to completely outshine the other. Piccolo's limited stamina is his greatest disadvantage here, but as long as he plays it smart, goes all out right from the get-go, and uses a strong finisher like Makankosappo, he should have a pretty good chance.

-Regardless of if Nappa was fooling around with his opponents or not, the amount of difficulty he had against weaker foes tells me that he, along with the vast majority of other Saiyans during his time only managed to earn their daunting reputation through sheer strength alone.

-Despite being a strategically gifted fighter, facing off against a biological creation that's fueled by the cells of some of the fiercest fighters in the universe is no walk in the park. That said, I've always felt that Cell's artificially created abilities fell short of their original copies.

-I personally perceive the two of them as near equals when it comes to tactical prowess. That said, Goku being the fighting genius he is, probably holds a slight edge, as was evidenced in their initial fight in the Saiyan arc.

-Although Buuhan may have the wisdom extracted from the mind of Piccolo, and a diverse array of moves courtesy of Gotenks, Beerus still likely has him outclassed in both categories.

-Cell may be a formidable warrior against a handful of fighters, but in the face of Whis, he's nothing but a mere novice.

-I honestly don't see Broly as anything beyond a senseless brute, who sloppily muscles his way into every victory. With his less than ideal intelligence and complete lack of battle ingenuity, it won't be long until he becomes the laughingstock. Regardless, even if we're strictly basing things on strength (his only area of expertise), he would still end up utterly humiliated. This so-called residual increase in power seemed like another over hyped claim that was attached to his name.

Interesting answers.

1. I probably should've made a battle condition about Goku having the same durability as Mr. Satan. I feel as a martial artist he's far more skilled than Goku, someone that's spent most of his time increasing his battle power and all things concerned.
4. What evidence is there to support this beyond filler? He knows everyone's moves, fighting styles and how they act. It'd be like fighting against your clone, but superior in every conceivable way. I almost feel like it would be a Predator type scenario, with Piccolo as Dutch, covering himself in mud to blend in.
5. This seems to be the general consensus, but how exactly does the Saiyan saga promote Goku in any way? Vegeta would have killed him without a second thought had the remaining Z-senshi not been there.
6. What categories?
7. Well, that handful kinda means something when they're pretty much in the top 0.1 percentile or so. I'm not exactly sure what makes Whis a master of anything beyond his time control ability. Unless he's a Xenomorph or some creature with an altered anatomy, there really isn't a "new" way to fight. All of the ki based moves he's shown thus far really aren't that impressive, and if anything, seem far less intimidating than many seen in GT (or before attacks were scaled down after Freeza).
8. I'm sure you would agree though, that Goku is far more of a gifted and knowledgeable fighter than Broly, yet he was torn up like a ragdoll; everyone was. His moves are wrestling based, contrary to what some people seem to think. What could either of them possibly do if Broly was far stronger?

[ZombieVito]

Beerus [vs Z fighters] vs Buuhan.

[RandomGuy96]

Beerus [vs Z fighters] vs Buuhan.

While I don't think Beerus did anything that Buu couldn't have done, Goku's comment that Beerus would be able to defeat Vegetto is meant to imply that suppressed Beerus was stronger than Gohan-Boo. Which makes no sense, since he can't sense Beerus's power, but whatever.

[Sayo-chan]

Beerus [vs Z fighters] vs Buuhan.

Beerus is sloppy (too confident in his own abilities), coupled with average intelligence (just like every other Z character).

Scenario 1:
Boohan doesn't see Beerus as a viable threat and unsure of his alliance with the Z-senshi, he uses the opportunity to sucker punch Goku or Vegeta. Beerus accidentally breaks Yamcha's neck, overestimating his durability, to which Tenshinhan, Krillin and 18 dash to him. Boohan, becoming slightly weary, takes to being defensive against the Saiyans, fending them off while carefully analyzing the Egyptian-like god. Krillin and co. are taken down with three swift movements, causing Goku and Vegeta to let up on their assault. Roshi fires a Kamehameha wave, temporarily distracting Beerus, who flicks his fingers and pops the old man's head off his shoulders. Noticing all his friends are pretty much dead, Goku ascends from SSJ2 to 3 and slams into Beerus, doing absolutely nothing. Trembling, Vegeta becomes frozen with fear, allowing Boohan to surprise him with a bear hug. Struggling, he's absorbed. The transformation gives him Vegeta's... battle prowess? Combined with Piccolo and Gohan, he becomes more adaptable, more cunning and obviously more powerful. Noticing the sudden increase in power, Goku turns his head, allowing for Beerus to cold-clock him unconscious, giving Boogeta the opportunity to harvest him as well.

So Booku is arguably on par with Beerus now, who knows. Beerus is pretty much outclassed in every conceivable way aside from ki. I don't think he'd be able to die, at all. No matter what life threatening attack's thrown at him, I feel as though he wouldn't be stupid enough to allow himself to be killed. This is also operating under the assumption that the absorptions aren't enough to quite give him the edge in the fight. It probably wouldn't be difficult to out smart the dumb purple fuckbag and absorb him, but would it work? It didn't work on Vegetto, but then again, he technically didn't absorb, he ate him. We know that eating his opponents only kills them, as opposed to incorporating them, as evidenced with Dabra. Would Beerus be able to make a barrier like Vegetto, or was that only because he was turned into candy? Would his bullshit plot device god ki somehow make him immune? Somehow, I think that if Booku tricked him with food, he'd be able to blindside and absorb him. If not, then it'd just be a matter of a power gap. Booku would never die. Beerus would probably get frustrated, blow the planet up and leave, leaving Booku uninjured to grow stronger and kill him at a later time.

Scenario 2:
Boohan is intimidated by Beerus's presence and forms an ephemeral truce with Goku and Vegeta. The three come up with some comical plans that somewhat work, but ultimately fail and result in the Z-senshis' deaths. Goku and Vegeta fuse into Vegetto, who completely annihilates Beerus, because Goku's an idiot that has no idea whether or not Vegetto would beat someone he knows nothing about. Vegetto then forms a friendship with Boohan, conveniently forgetting his friends and family are trapped inside him.

Scenario 3:
Goku and Vegeta fuse into Vegetto, it's not enough. While catching his breath, Boohan absorbs Vegetto and kills Beerus with relative ease.

[Captain Space]

13. According to the guidebooks, the newest movies were in the same timeline as GT.

Really?! The amount of mental gymnastics required to make that work are insane.

All right, try these on for size:

Mr. Satan VS. Goku
Conditions -
*No ki based attacks
*Both have a battle power of 10
*Imagine Cell broke it down like he just didn't care, prompting Goku and Mr. Satan to have a match in the Cell Games arena.
*Pretty much a martial arts battle until someone dies or rings out.

Piccolo VS. 17
Conditions -
*Ki can only be used for flight.
*Both have a battle power of 10.
*Cell doesn't exist, Piccolo fights 17 on the island uninterrupted.

Roid Roshi VS. Nappa
Conditions -
*The Saiyans came back sooner than expected.
*Everyone dies but Roshi.
*Both have a battle power of 2,000.
*Vegeta falls asleep because he's bored, so no interference.

Piccolo VS. Imperfect Cell
Conditions -
*Both are set loose on opposite ends of a small planet with lush, dense vegetation, roughly 50 times the size of Kaio's.
*Neither can sense one another's ki.
*Both have an equal battle power roughly the same as Cell before he absorbed 17.

Majin Vegeta VS. Goku
Conditions -
*Majin Boo doesn't exist.
*Vegeta murders all of Goku's friends.
*Both are set on only one coming out alive.
*Equal battle powers.

Gohan-Boo VS. Beerus
Conditions -
*The planet cannot be destroyed.
*Equal battle powers and ki.

Perfect Cell (GT Goku absorbed) VS. Whis
Conditions -
*Fight on Kaio's planet, which is also indestructible.
*Whis can't control time.
*Goku can't escape from Cell's insides.
*Cell retains all of Goku's power during the Super 17 arc.

Broly VS. Beerus and Whis
Conditions -
*Broly killed everyone back in the 8th movie.
*Broly's been growing exponentially stronger up until the fight (BoGs time period).
*Whis can't control time.

-Goku, given all the martial-arts trickery and shenanigans he can do as seen against Jackie Chun.

-17. Piccolo's regeneration is mainly for growing back lost limbs and stuff, less helpful if 17 just beats the crap out of him without ever tiring.

-Roshi also partook in multiple matches full of cunning martial arts shenanigans, whereas Nappa almost got his head sliced in half by trying to tank a Kienzan. So Roshi.

-Cell has all of Piccolo's techniques and abilities, and more, and seems to be pretty good at stealth to boot, so Cell. Sorry, Piccolo, this just isn't your day.

-I mean...in the canon Majin Vegeta vs Goku fight, Vegeta was already just about at the end of his rope, and while Goku was enjoying the chance to fight his old rival, his heart wasn't fully in it in the end. A raging Goku is something to behold (ask King Piccolo and Freeza), so I say Goku just slightly edges this.

-Buuhan. If they have equal power, his various magic powers are way too much for Beerus. (And destroying the planet wouldn't matter to either of them really, as a side-note.)

-Still Whis. But only because I personally tend to place most of GT way below god stuff, for reasons I've gone over earlier.

-Beerus and Whis. Even if Broly's power has been growing since movie 8, he was probably under SSJ2 tier then. I don't see him improving to "leagues above Vegetto" level. And that's just Beerus; he's outnumbered, and Whis is even stronger than that...

Match 1:
Base Goku(RoF) + Base Vegeta(RoF) [VS.] SSG Goku

Match 2:
SSG Goku + SSG Vegeta [VS.] SSGSS Goku

Hard to say for sure, but especially from the manga (and a little bit from the movie) I got the impression that they were about on an SSJG level in base by RF, so the pair.

Don't think SSGSS is that far above SSJG, since it's still a tiny bit weaker than max Gold Freeza who's still weaker than Beerus, so there's not a lot of 'room', so the duo again.

Beerus [vs Z fighters] vs Buuhan.

Suppressed Beerus >>> Vegetto >>> Buuhan

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Beerus [vs Z fighters] vs Buuhan.

While I don't think Beerus did anything that Buu couldn't have done, Goku's comment that Beerus would be able to defeat Vegetto is meant to imply that suppressed Beerus was stronger than Gohan-Boo. Which makes no sense, since he can't sense Beerus's power, but whatever.

Ginyu couldn't sense ki either, but he could have an estimation of Goku's power, who was supressed. It turned out that Goku was beyond Ginyu's expectations, but so did Beerus. It's exactly the same situation.

[dbgtFO]

13. According to the guidebooks, the newest movies were in the same timeline as GT.

Really?! The amount of mental gymnastics required to make that work are insane.

I think everything works out fine, if it was only BoG. Toriyama gave a cop out to why Goku would never need SSGod again afterall.
It's Resurrection [F], that makes things a bit more hard to work with.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

13. According to the guidebooks, the newest movies were in the same timeline as GT.

Really?! The amount of mental gymnastics required to make that work are insane.

I think everything works out fine, if it was only BoG. Toriyama gave a cop out to why Goku would never need SSGod again afterall.
It's Resurrection [F], that makes things a bit more hard to work with.

It's only BoG that was placed with GT in the timeline. After FnF & Super though, they seem to treat GT as an alternative timeline, and they didn't even include it in the most recent timeline of the series.

[singsing]

Beerus [vs Z fighters] vs Buuhan.

While I don't think Beerus did anything that Buu couldn't have done, Goku's comment that Beerus would be able to defeat Vegetto is meant to imply that suppressed Beerus was stronger than Gohan-Boo. Which makes no sense, since he can't sense Beerus's power, but whatever.

Gohan-Boo isn't THAT much stronger than Gotenks-Boo, and I don't see Gotenks-Boo being able to 2 shot Gohan.

Beerus [vs Z fighters] vs Buuhan.

Beerus is sloppy (too confident in his own abilities), coupled with average intelligence (just like every other Z character).

Scenario 1:
Boohan doesn't see Beerus as a viable threat and unsure of his alliance with the Z-senshi, he uses the opportunity to sucker punch Goku or Vegeta. Beerus accidentally breaks Yamcha's neck, overestimating his durability, to which Tenshinhan, Krillin and 18 dash to him. Boohan, becoming slightly weary, takes to being defensive against the Saiyans, fending them off while carefully analyzing the Egyptian-like god. Krillin and co. are taken down with three swift movements, causing Goku and Vegeta to let up on their assault. Roshi fires a Kamehameha wave, temporarily distracting Beerus, who flicks his fingers and pops the old man's head off his shoulders. Noticing all his friends are pretty much dead, Goku ascends from SSJ2 to 3 and slams into Beerus, doing absolutely nothing. Trembling, Vegeta becomes frozen with fear, allowing Boohan to surprise him with a bear hug. Struggling, he's absorbed. The transformation gives him Vegeta's... battle prowess? Combined with Piccolo and Gohan, he becomes more adaptable, more cunning and obviously more powerful. Noticing the sudden increase in power, Goku turns his head, allowing for Beerus to cold-clock him unconscious, giving Boogeta the opportunity to harvest him as well.

So Booku is arguably on par with Beerus now, who knows. Beerus is pretty much outclassed in every conceivable way aside from ki. I don't think he'd be able to die, at all. No matter what life threatening attack's thrown at him, I feel as though he wouldn't be stupid enough to allow himself to be killed. This is also operating under the assumption that the absorptions aren't enough to quite give him the edge in the fight. It probably wouldn't be difficult to out smart the dumb purple fuckbag and absorb him, but would it work? It didn't work on Vegetto, but then again, he technically didn't absorb, he ate him. We know that eating his opponents only kills them, as opposed to incorporating them, as evidenced with Dabra. Would Beerus be able to make a barrier like Vegetto, or was that only because he was turned into candy? Would his bullshit plot device god ki somehow make him immune? Somehow, I think that if Booku tricked him with food, he'd be able to blindside and absorb him. If not, then it'd just be a matter of a power gap. Booku would never die. Beerus would probably get frustrated, blow the planet up and leave, leaving Booku uninjured to grow stronger and kill him at a later time.

Scenario 2:
Boohan is intimidated by Beerus's presence and forms an ephemeral truce with Goku and Vegeta. The three come up with some comical plans that somewhat work, but ultimately fail and result in the Z-senshis' deaths. Goku and Vegeta fuse into Vegetto, who completely annihilates Beerus, because Goku's an idiot that has no idea whether or not Vegetto would beat someone he knows nothing about. Vegetto then forms a friendship with Boohan, conveniently forgetting his friends and family are trapped inside him.

Scenario 3:
Goku and Vegeta fuse into Vegetto, it's not enough. While catching his breath, Boohan absorbs Vegetto and kills Beerus with relative ease.

99% sure that Zombie meant Beerus's power when he fought against the Z-fighters, not literally him and the Z-fighters rofl.

[Captain Space]

I think everything works out fine, if it was only BoG. Toriyama gave a cop out to why Goku would never need SSGod again afterall.
It's Resurrection [F], that makes things a bit more hard to work with.

It's only BoG that was placed with GT in the timeline. After FnF & Super though, they seem to treat GT as an alternative timeline, and they didn't even include it in the most recent timeline of the series.

Oh, okay, if it was just talking about BoG, I could see that. It would possibly explain why GT Goku is so strong I guess (and you could say Beerus was asleep during GT). Though even then, I got the impression that Pilaf's gang wasn't gonna re-oldify themselves from the end of BoG, so that's a bit of a problem.

But yeah, I was more talking it not working out regarding RF and such. That makes more sense.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

SS Gokhan (potara; Boo arc) vs. SS2 Vegetto (Boo arc)

[Kaboom]

And to answer your question, no. The series just says Fusion makes them "stronger than either person on their own" and the guidebooks say vague things like "many times" or "tens of times" stronger, while referring to different circumstances and characters.

It seems that the popular opinion for the Fusion Dance equation is: A + B x 10.
For the Potara earrings it seems to be: A x B (A x B x 100 in the case of anime Vegito's hoax.)
But those are all fans assumptions and I obviously can't establish them as official, anyways, thank you for answering my question.

True, those are just fan-made, and not even really "widely accepted" in any way. Doesn't hurt to make something up for one's own lists or something though.

- Perfect Cell vs FPSSJ Goku (4 years of training in the Other World)
- Dabura vs Full Power Bojack
- Super Perfect Cell vs SSJ Vegeta (EoZ)
- Perfect Cell vs Super Kaio-ken Goku (he has very limited time of use for this state, enough for a single kamehameha)
- SSJ2 Gohan (Cell Games) vs LSSJ Broly (Movie 10)
- SSJ3 Vegito vs 50% Beerus.

— I don't think Goku had even quite matched full-power Perfect Cell with just SS1 even after his full seven years. If Goku's got Super Saiyan 2 by this point, which I'd guess he probably did, he's going to need it to beat Cell.
— Unless he can land a good blow with his sword or a lucky shot with his petrifying spit, Dabra's gonna get manhandled. In my book he's weaker than SS1 Gohan while buffed Bojack is on par with full-power Cell.
— Kind of the same deal as with Goku in the first match-up. I don't think Goku or Vegeta would have QUITE reached this point yet. They'd still need Super Saiyan 2 to beat Super Cell, but that would make it easy.
— Poor Gohan's going to get beat. I think Broli in Movie 10 is a step above even SS2 Goku and Vegeta's power, and Gohan's even weaker than them. It's going to unfold almost the same as teen Gohan's actual fight in the movie.
— I don't think there's any good way to answer. Those who assume Goku saying "I don't think Fusion with Vegeta would be enough to win" means "even SS3 Vegetto would be totally helpless" are jumping to some pretty high conclusions about hypothetical forms of characters that we don't even know for sure are possible.

Jaco vs. Garlic Jr

I personally think Jaco in his manga is around the 500 mark in power level; strong enough to be an effective Patrolman but no match for an average adult Saiyan (like Raditz around 1,500). So I think he could take out regular Garlic Junior, but Garlic's transformed state (with a PL of probably close to 1,000) would be too much for him.

Match 1:
Base Goku(RoF) + Base Vegeta(RoF) [VS.] SSG Goku
Match 2:
SSG Goku + SSG Vegeta [VS.] SSGSS Goku

Well... SSGSS Goku, SSGSS Vegeta, and Golden Freeza were all still no match for Beerus individually. So I'm thinking Goku's top power hasn't increased drastically from what he had as a Super Saiyan God in the prior movie. He was a 6 to Beerus' 10 before, and now he and Vegeta at SSGSS are probably both around a 7. I'm not entirely sure where to place their new "base" forms though. Beerus in BoG said that Goku's power didn't drop very much when he lost the god form, but Goku was also using Super Saiyan to compensate. So he and Vegeta's base forms could be something like 5 or less.

So I'm going to say the Goku-and-Vegeta team may not win the first battle, but they can definitely win the second one.

Beerus [vs Z fighters] vs Buuhan.

No good way to tell. Like I said, people like to draw a LOT of conclusions about Beerus' power compared to the upper tier guys of DBZ. We're told he's the "strongest in the history of Z," meaning stronger than anyone we actually saw in the series, but we can't know by how much. Likewise, we don't know for sure what Beerus was doing against the heroes at the party; was he actually adjusting his power, or just pulling his punches and effort?

SS Gokhan (potara; Boo arc) vs. SS2 Vegetto (Boo arc)

Elder Kaioshin supposed that base "Kuhan" would be enough to handle Boo, but then went on to praise Goku and Vegeta's Fusion and label it as "definitely strongest," and what-not.

So I like to think that, because Goku gets 99% of his power from Super Saiyan forms while Gohan has a sh*t-ton of power without them, that Kuhan would have some weird mix of the two. His "base" form would already be stronger than Boo, but his Super Saiyan form would only double it or something. Whereas Vegetto has a much weaker base form, but reaps the full 50x boost from Super Saiyan and maxes out at a higher level than SS Kuhan. Something like...

Gotenks/Gohan-Boo: 10
Base Kuhan: 20
-- Super Saiyan: 40
Base Vegetto: 1
-- Super Saiyan: 50

That said, Vegetto can already win with just Super Saiyan 1, and giving him Super Saiyan 2 on top of that is overkill.

[Doctor.]

Bardock (TV Special) with access to Kaioken x20 vs Oozaru Vegeta
Raditz vs Saiyan arc Chaozu and Yajirobe

And the mother of all hypothetical battles: SSGSS Ultimate Gohan (assume they stack) vs a potara fusion of Beerus and Whis