The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[FNF]

When Boo first formed he was a joke compared to SSjin2 Goku and Vegeta.

What makes you believe that?

Piccolo Daimao posted the evidence.

His initial Ki is probably FP Cell-SP Cell tier imo.

It would take something much, much stronger than him (like Goku's Genki-Dama against Kid Boo) to completely obliterate him.

Yeah, a lot of people who try to argue Pure Boo>Evil Boo based on the Genki-dama situation don't understand that at all.

[Fox666]

Well, I don't think Majin Boo holding back his Ki would effectively affect his strength... it's not like someone could just attack him from behind and he would be done.

Yeah, we know that. I mean, he could probably still be blasted apart by Vegeta, but he'd just regenerate. Boo ends up getting blasted apart by people weaker than him (see: Super Boo vs. gunmen, or Kid Boo vs. Vegeta), but it doesn't matter because he can just regenerate from it. It would take something much, much stronger than him (like Goku's Genki-Dama against Kid Boo) to completely obliterate him.

I am saying that even if they can't sense all of his Ki, his strength doesn't change.

[Piccolo Daimao]

Well, I don't think Majin Boo holding back his Ki would effectively affect his strength... it's not like someone could just attack him from behind and he would be done.

Yeah, we know that. I mean, he could probably still be blasted apart by Vegeta, but he'd just regenerate. Boo ends up getting blasted apart by people weaker than him (see: Super Boo vs. gunmen, or Kid Boo vs. Vegeta), but it doesn't matter because he can just regenerate from it. It would take something much, much stronger than him (like Goku's Genki-Dama against Kid Boo) to completely obliterate him.

I am saying that even if they can't sense all of his Ki, his strength doesn't change.

Why wouldn't Boo be able to suppress his ki? There's nothing that suggests he can't.

[Mystic Gohan]

This is if vegeta became a ssj when he fought final form frieza. Do you think he could pull off the victory? Personally, i believe he could due to superior intellect, ki sensing, ki suppressing, and better fighting instincts.

[Kaboom]

If Vegeta actually transformed, he'd end up dead-even with or slightly behind 100% Freeza in power. If Vegeta plays his cards right, he can easily stall until Freeza's Ki starts to plummet from stress, and then the fight is his.

[Saiga]

I think he would, as Super Saiyan Goku was stronger than Freeza despite his injuries so Super Saiyan Vegeta should be above the injured Super Saiyan Goku.

[Rocketman]

Vegeta wouldn't stop and let Freeza reach 100%.

[In Brightest Day]

Vegeta wouldn't stop and let Freeza reach 100%.

Uh, why are we all of a sudden giving Vegeta that much credit? Of course he would.

[Saiga]

Vegeta wouldn't stop and let Freeza reach 100%.

Uh, why are we all of a sudden giving Vegeta that much credit? Of course he would.

Not necessarily. Letting Freeza get 100% means not torturing him to death for like a minute or two. That would seem pretty OOC for Vegeta at his stage, given his hatred towards Freeza.

[Piccolo Daimao]

Vegeta wouldn't stop and let Freeza reach 100%.

Why not? He'd be just as arrogant, if not moreso, than SSj Goku, in letting Freeza reach 100% just so he can defeat him and rub it in his face that he, Super Vegeta, defeated Freeza at his strongest and, therefore, asserted his superiority as the strongest warrior in the universe.

I think that Vegeta, if he became a SSj against Freeza, would wind up at 125 million, to rival 100% Freeza's 120 million. He'd do what Goku did and knock 50% Freeza around for a bit, until Freeza destroyed Namek's core and powered up to 100%. Again, like with Goku, they'd have a roughly even battle, until Freeza's dropping ki got to a point where Vegeta could easily overwhelm him. Vegeta would use this opportunity to rub it in his face that he was the strongest, before torturing him to death.

[Fox666]

Vegeta power could be anything beetween 50 to 150 million, you just can't tell for sure. But I agree that Vegeta would let Freeza reach his 100%. Vegeta always let the villain achieve his full power.

[Piccolo Daimao]

Vegeta power could be anything beetween 50 to 150 million, you just can't tell for sure. But I agree that Vegeta would let Freeza reach his 100%. Vegeta always let the villain achieve his full power.

Yeah, we saw that with Cell.

[Rocketman]

Android arc Vegeta is not Namek arc Vegeta.

[Kid Buu]

Vegeta was hesitant about Freeza going to his final form, I'm not sure if he'd let him go to 100%.

[Kaboom]

Vegeta already allowed Zarbon and goaded Freeza both to transform before. I'm pretty sure he'd likewise allow Freeza to go to 100% if he thought he could still beat him. Becoming a Super Saiyan would no doubt crank up his typical arrogant Vegeta-ness to 11. I mean, we saw it happen to Goku; how much more would that hold true for Vegeta?

[Saiga]

He would also probably have an exploding planet to worry about.

[Fox666]

Android arc Vegeta is not Namek arc Vegeta.

He let Goku use the Kaio-ken... he let Freeza transform for the first time...

[Mystic Gohan]

Do you guys really believe that 100% Freeza was at 120mil? Thats a 20% gap between him and goku. Goku should have dominated that fight if it was a 20% gap, but it was still fairly even for a while. Imo, id put frieza 100% at 140mil.

[Kaboom]

Do you guys really believe that 100% Freeza was at 120mil? Thats a 20% gap between him and goku. Goku should have dominated that fight if it was a 20% gap, but it was still fairly even for a while. Imo, id put Freeza 100% at 140mil.

There's no such set "rules" for that kind of thing. Battles are about more than just power.

For example, the gap between Vegeta and Dodoria was even smaller than that (24k to 22k, less than a 10% difference), but Vegeta dominated that fight so easily because he also had a clear advantage in skill and mindset compared to the desperate and sloppy Dodoria.

[Saiga]

Plus there is the fact that both of them are injured. And the same guide that gave 150 mill Goku gave 120 mill Freeza, so why assume one of them is fact while the other isn't?