Sayo-chan wrote:LonelyShadow wrote:...
It really doesn't seem like we're in too much of a disagreement here. I'm not arguing that characters off guard are affected more by attacks (e.g. Majin Vegeta VS. Goku). I'm merely saying that Gohan likely factored in he might get hit given that he could see the blast heading toward Vegeta as he took off. He miscalculated the attack's power, which is explicit. We both pretty much said the same thing here. The second thing is that in that other example, Goku can still fly on his own. He still has energy to spare. Vegeta, even with a hole in his chest could still stand and walk for a bit. I think it's fairly obvious that Gohan being completely drained and wounded is why he can't fly himself. He smiles at Yamcha with his eyes barely open. Your numbers are as valid as my are, however I don't believe either of our numbers are as valid as: SSJ2 Gohan <=> Super Perfect Cell.
Yeah, we can pretty much agree here, is just a few numbers that actually that started the whole thing.
I'd also like to bring forth the notion that Cell may not have been at full strength. Every time he regenerates from an attack, he loses ki. This is said when he regenerates from Goku's Kamehameha, it's the main reason he's weakened. Now if Cell regenerates from the absolute bare minimum, we don't know if the zenkai boosted the small amount of energy he had left, or rejuvenated him.
Oh yeah! I just notice that! What just happened there? I call the use of hacks right there. Either Cell has the best exploit ever seen in the history of mankind: Piccolo's regeneration after self destruct + Saiyan Zenkai = Infinite Stamina. Or Toriyama just said: "
Fuck it. It is the end of the manga. To the hell with the logic I just established, I need to end this now. Is not like they're going to ask me for another saga, right?"
If that's the case for the effects of the regeneration, why did Cell go straight back to the Earth after recovering from such a horrible injury, wouldn't that mean that he lost way too much Ki? He indeed received the Zenkai, to be almost at par with Gohan at 100% without his anger boost, but he also lost way too much energy, if with Goku's Instant Kamehameha that only blew his top body everyone notice how much energy he lost after his recovery, why did he think that was a good moment to attack?
I also believe that everyone who watched the Cell Games can agree that Cell's lump is located where his peepee should be. Dr. Gero is indeed brilliant.
At one moment Cell stated that he didn't just recovered his Ultimate Power, that just like Goku, he went through a massive power up (this could probably be a bad translation). By ultimate power he could probably be referring to his Perfect Form, not his 100% if that's the case, why did he come back to Earth right away if he wasn't in conditions of fighting Gohan after the explosion happened?
Was Vegeta being a drama queen part of his plan in order to hurt Gohan?
