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Bullza wrote:As amazing as a 120 minute runtime sounds I would never get my hopes up and expect that, that's just setting yourself up for disappointment. I'd be happy if it was at least 100 minutes.
With the amount of $$$ BOG made it's not to out there to think the sequel will be 15 minutes longer.
One Piece Strong World made even more money but the sequel was 8 minutes shorter than it. It'd also be 35 minutes longer than BoG's theatrical version. Not impossible but I really don't see it and certainly won't pay it any mind at this point.
Didn't the movie not even make their goal though?
It made exactly their goal in the end. Which was 3 billion Yen.
Given the movie probably didn't even cost $1,000,000 to make it is safe to say the film made quite a lot of actual profit.
It would have made a huge amount of profit, obviously that's why they're doing a sequel but it would have cost a lot more than $1 million. Not including the advertising either.
FortuneSSJ wrote:So random, but I only noticed now that BOG is the first movie where Majin Buu and Pilaf gang appeared. Still, too much screen time for those three.
Pilaf and co. appear at the start of Movie 3, if I recall correctly.
He's talking about majin boo and pilaf and gang appearing at the SAME TIME
You sure? I don't see anything in his post that would indicate that this is the case, but then again, there's nothing that says it isn't, other than the fact that it's a weird thing to point out given that it's the first time that, say...Videl and Pilaf appear together for the first time, or Vegeta and Pilaf. Oh well, perhaps the original poster can clarify.
By the way, has anyone found another site that supports these supposed new details? Funnily enough, they'd been sitting unnoticed on that page for six days now. I noticed JulieYBM retweeted a blog entry with the same information, but it just links back to that original site. Has anyone done any investigating on that site, by the way? It actually looks rather promising, but these details could very easily be a simple mistake, and to me, that feels a bit more likely.
Bullza wrote:It would have made a huge amount of profit, obviously that's why they're doing a sequel but it would have cost a lot more than $1 million. Not including the advertising either.
Quite. An expense often not considered is that of the voice acting talent, who not only are amongst some of the most experienced and sought-after Seiyu in Japan, but also have voiced the characters for such a long period of time that recasting them would prove controversial with the fandom, which in turn puts their agents in a position of power when negotiating a fee for their services.
Truth be told, the high expense involved in rehiring the original cast for Dragonball probably contributes to corner cutting in other departments.
'Multiculturalism means nothing in Japan, for every outside culture must pass first through the Japanese filter, rendering it entirely Japanese in the process.' - Julian Cope.
The original voice actors or nice animation is a terrible choice to choose between, I don't think I could do it.
And then I partly think that even if they were to use cheaper actors and actresses they'd still not shell out for nice animation.
And if everyone's over at HaCha, we're still not missing much because outside of the movie, HaCha looks so much more cheaply made than its predecessors, imo. I'd wager HappinessCharge is the cheapest precure series Toei's ever made.
JulieYBM wrote:The runtime wouldn't be decided yet. There's no telling how much of the film Yamamuro will be able to finish by the time it has to be sent out to theaters so early.
The finished runtime obviously shouldn be determined yet, but they should have an estimate based on their storyboard. We know they did this last time with Yamamuro's statements on how long the film was supposed to be and the content they had to cut. Like I said though, why this information would be given out before we even have a title (especially when it wouldn't be definite) is more of the question. So it's either a leak that could be prone to change, or they're just making it up.
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120 minutes seems too good to be true. Still isn't the right time to get hype.
DragonBoxZTheMovies wrote:
Dbzk1999 wrote:
DragonBoxZTheMovies wrote:
Pilaf and co. appear at the start of Movie 3, if I recall correctly.
He's talking about majin boo and pilaf and gang appearing at the SAME TIME
You sure? I don't see anything in his post that would indicate that this is the case, but then again, there's nothing that says it isn't, other than the fact that it's a weird thing to point out given that it's the first time that, say...Videl and Pilaf appear together for the first time, or Vegeta and Pilaf. Oh well, perhaps the original poster can clarify.
I didn't mean at the same time. I complete forgot pilaf gang appeared in movie 3 even though it was just for 3 minutes at max.
A world without Dragon Ball is just boring.
Favourite old DB Animators: Masaki Sato and Tadayoshi Yamamuro
Favourite new DB Animators: Yuya Takahashi and Chikashi Kubota
120 minute runtime supposedly for the 2015 Dragon Ball Z movie?
Hmm... I mixed feelings about this.
While a longer runtime would be great for having more time develop a good plot or characters, or as Toriyama hinted, increase the time for action and fight scenes, it could also mean there could be a lot of pointless filler, like in Battle Of Gods. I'm just hoping the latter is true.
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Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Lord Beerus wrote:120 minute runtime supposedly for the 2015 Dragon Ball Z movie?
Hmm... I mixed feelings about this.
While a longer runtime would be great for having more time develop a good plot or characters, or as Toriyama hinted, increase the time for action and fight scenes, it could also mean there could be a lot of pointless filler, like in Battle Of Gods. I'm just hoping the latter is true.
I was just thinking the same thing, if it's just pointless filler stuff that really adds nothing to the story I prefer they keep it shorter.
Filler + Mangaka doesn't exist.
But its not necessary for every character to appear. Increasing the fight scenes by a good deal will make a better a combo between comedy and action.
A world without Dragon Ball is just boring.
Favourite old DB Animators: Masaki Sato and Tadayoshi Yamamuro
Favourite new DB Animators: Yuya Takahashi and Chikashi Kubota
While I was unexpectedly entertained by Pilaf Gang, I really could go without them the next time around because I feel they used up too much time. But it's all subjective, because I also loved the 'desu' bit with Gokû.
I get why they would choose to leave some action scenes on the floor--because those are more expensive to animate, but I still would've liked to have seen them.
I would love again some cameo from the original series!
It ties it well together as I never was a fan of the DB and DBZ split.
I also enjoyed the cameo of Tao Pai Pai in Cell arc.
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It would be a terrible shame if Pilaf, Shuu, and Mai were not in the film. The pairing of Trunks and Mai is so left field it begs to be expanded upon. After nearly twenty years of thinking we know 'everything' about Dragon Ball there is suddenly something like this that completely changes our world. It would be a shame if this subplot was abandoned instead of becoming just as much a element of the franchise as anything from the original comic.
I didn't dislike them; in fact they led to some really entertaining stuff. I just, I don't want to rehash the 2008 special a second time with slight shuffling (because as much as I enjoyed BOG, the whole "we're having a party, here's everyone" even 5 years out from "Ossu!" I still felt enough similarities) and I feel like at least they can't do "big party at whoever's house" a third time, not so soon on the tail of BOG anyway.
Several recap movies are over two hours long. Uchuu Show e Youkoso was 136 minutes long while also being an original film. Toei Animation has been too busy as of late, so I simply don't expect the film to have enough animators to finish every cut.
Well, ANN posted the listing in their news feed: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-b ... -25/.80905
I wish they'd have waited for confirmation as to if this listing is legit or not, but at least they mention the 120 as a likely placeholder run-time.
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There's always a chance for some of the storyboard to be outsourced to other animators to work with director Yamamuro. Given how busy Toei Animation has been lately, it's not out of question that Tadayoshi Yamamuro sought out other key animators outside the company. My only concern is that if director Yamamuro supervises them, it most likely would mean the decline of quality animation, but if he manages to find good key animators, that'd be good. Even if good key animators rush a bit, they at least know how to draw good cuts, like Shida Natoshi did in Battle of Gods.
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