The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Captain Space » Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:39 am

Huh, weird. Hulk performing that poorly seems like madness (having read WWH), but I guess the concept of the character has changed over time.
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Post by ekrolo2 » Mon Aug 17, 2015 12:00 pm

Captain Space wrote:Huh, weird. Hulk performing that poorly seems like madness (having read WWH), but I guess the concept of the character has changed over time.
That's not the same Hulk from World War Hulk and the main Marvel universe, its the Ultimate version who has nowhere near as many impressive feats as his many universe counterpart.
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Post by Captain Space » Mon Aug 17, 2015 12:36 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
Captain Space wrote:Huh, weird. Hulk performing that poorly seems like madness (having read WWH), but I guess the concept of the character has changed over time.
That's not the same Hulk from World War Hulk and the main Marvel universe, its the Ultimate version who has nowhere near as many impressive feats as his many universe counterpart.
I was referring to Kamiccolo's comment about the Hulk's first fight against the Avengers way back in the day, main universe.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:02 pm

Android 19 [After absorptions] vs Piccolo [Pre God fusion].
Android 19 [After absorptions] vs SSJ Trunks [Mecha arc].
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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:05 pm

Zombie wrote:Android 19 [After absorptions] vs Piccolo [Pre God fusion]
Android #20 after his absorptions is stronger than #19 after his absorptions in my opinion. Basing that on #20 being the only one of the two considered possibly strong enough to beat SS Trunks from 3 years back.

Piccolo wins quite easily in my opinion.

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Post by ahill1 » Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:18 pm

Zombie wrote:Android 19 [After absorptions] vs Piccolo [Pre God fusion].
Android 19 [After absorptions] vs SSJ Trunks [Mecha arc].
Android 20 (after absorption) is stronger than 19 (after absorption) then Piccolo crushes 19.

Even 19 (pre absorptions) would win in my opinion.

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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:19 pm

Zombie wrote:Android 19 [After absorptions] vs SSJ Trunks [Mecha arc].
Pre-absorptions #19 would win my opinion.. but not very easily.

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Post by LonelyShadow » Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:40 pm

Galan007 wrote:
LonelyShadow wrote:Toei SSJ3 Goku (movie 13) vs Buutenks
WotD SSJ3 Goku seemed to do better against Hirudegarn than SSJ3 Gotenks and Shin Gohan. So he [Goku] *might* be around Bootenks-level--though I'd still give Boo the nod. Additionally, Goku lacks the means to kill and/or incapacitate Boo--I don't think the Dragon Fist would be capable of doing so, and Boo most certainly would not just sit there and allow Goku to manifest a universal Genki Dama.

That said, Boo would win. Even IF their powers were equal, Boo still possesses ∞ stamina, while Goku obviously does not(his stamina limitations are even more pronounced as a SSJ3.)
That's a good point, the SSJ3 transformation brings a lot of problems with it, Buu's regeneration ability is almost unfair if your opponent is about as powerful as you are and the fusion lasts longer than the SSJ3 transformation. Buutenks should win, unless Goku uses the power of friendship.
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Post by Captain Space » Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:46 pm

LonelyShadow wrote:
Imagine a group of kids on a deserted island equipped with slingshots and a bunch of rocks against a hostile alien race that manage to travel all the way here,
I'm almost willing to bet money that that was or will at some point be a (crappy) movie.
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Post by LowRyder2005 » Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:52 pm

Super Buu (Buu Saga's Goku absorbed) vs. Mystic Gohan (Buu Saga)

I have them more or less equal with Gohan possibly very slightly above, but I'd like some brainstorming to boot.

EDIT: For the sake of the argument, Super Buu has access to Goku's SSJ3 power.
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Post by Eternal Super Saiyan » Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:54 pm

LowRyder2005 wrote:Super Buu (Buu Saga's Goku absorbed) vs. Mystic Gohan (Buu Saga)
If he absorbed SSJ3 Goku, Gohan would lose. Base Goku though, that would be easy for him.
Assuming Goku can't last long in SSJ3 (maybe 10-15 minutes?), Goku-Buu would have to hurry it up. So if Gohan buys enough time that could grant him victory.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:58 pm

LowRyder2005 wrote:Super Buu (Buu Saga's Goku absorbed) vs. Mystic Gohan (Buu Saga)
Gohan stomps. SSJ3 Goku is so far inferior to Super Boo, he'd hardly be worth much. SSJ3 Gotenks was on par with Boo if not stronger, so he made for a more than worthwhile boost to Super Boo. Super Boo at least doubled his power with Gotenks absorbed. Though if we count things like today's Dragon Ball and no hand holding, Gohan will find a way to lose since he doesn't fit the stat trinity of relevancy.
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Post by LonelyShadow » Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:21 pm

Captain Space wrote:
LonelyShadow wrote:
Imagine a group of kids on a deserted island equipped with slingshots and a bunch of rocks against a hostile alien race that manage to travel all the way here,
I'm almost willing to bet money that that was or will at some point be a (crappy) movie.
Well...
LowRyder2005 wrote:Super Buu (Buu Saga's Goku absorbed) vs. Mystic Gohan (Buu Saga)

EDIT: For the sake of the argument, Super Buu can access Goku's SSJ3 power.
I'll go with Gohan. He received a bad beat by PicBuuenks, he could probably have some disadvantages in the fight if Buuku actually puts full effort into the fight this time, sadly for him, he doesn't have Piccolo's judgment anymore, meaning that the fight would prolong way too much and he'll end up losing the powers of the SSJ3.

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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:19 pm

LowRyder2005 wrote:Super Buu (Buu Saga's Goku absorbed) vs. Mystic Gohan (Buu Saga)
There's not much of a difference between a 1,000 and a 1,001 when compared to a 1,500.

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Post by ZombieVito » Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:42 pm

LowRyder2005 wrote:Super Buu (Buu Saga's Goku absorbed) vs. Mystic Gohan (Buu Saga)

I have them more or less equal with Gohan possibly very slightly above, but I'd like some brainstorming to boot.

EDIT: For the sake of the argument, Super Buu has access to Goku's SSJ3 power.
SSJ3 Goku: 32
Super Buu: 60
Gohan: 90
Buuku: 92

Gohan is going to lose hard. While they have comparable strength, Buu has regeneration and better skills thanks to Goku.

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Post by Doctor. » Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:46 pm

Post-RoSaT SS Trunks vs Cell Games SS Gohan
Pre-RoSaT SS Trunks vs Cell Games SS Goku

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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:49 pm

Doctor. wrote:Post-RoSaT SS Trunks vs Cell Games SS Gohan
Pre-RoSaT SS Trunks vs Cell Games SS Goku
I think Trunks loses both. He's stronger in the second round but he lacks the skill to overcome his opponent..

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Post by Eternal Super Saiyan » Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:07 pm

Doctor. wrote:Post-RoSaT SS Trunks vs Cell Games SS Gohan
Pre-RoSaT SS Trunks vs Cell Games SS Goku
Gohan and Goku breeze through both fights. Trunks doesn't even touch them.
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Post by Michelle91 » Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:35 pm

Buu saga Yamcha vs. Pui Pui

Who wins?
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Post by Eternal Super Saiyan » Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:39 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Buu saga Yamcha vs. Pui Pui

Who wins?
Mostly opinion here, I put Pui Pui under 1 million. Yamcha should be in the low millions at least. With Krillin and Tien closer to 10M.
Yamcha takes him.
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