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Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:45 pm

FinalFlash wrote:Not to dwell on the hilarity of Goku and Vegeta's handholding, but all the information today makes me really excited for the eventual Team Four Star dub of this movie. It seems like there will be a lot of prime material for those guys!
That's not for years and years and years down the line....even if they get that far. They may not finish Cell until another year or two.
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Post by fadeddreams5 » Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:45 pm

You know, a while ago I wrote that Frieza would blow up the planet and Whis would reverse time. Before that, I joked about Goku and Vegeta holding hands (I added Broly in this dialogue, which upset Dyno...). There's a small line of dialogue in the second chapter of the manga that I wrote nearly word for word months before it was ever released. I was not the least bit shocked or surprised when I saw Golden Frieza.

This movie has met all my expectations. lol.
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Post by Chuquita » Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:46 pm

FinalFlash wrote:Not to dwell on the hilarity of Goku and Vegeta's handholding, but all the information today makes me really excited for the eventual Team Four Star dub of this movie. It seems like there will be a lot of prime material for those guys!
I want to know why they chose to do that instead of put a hand on a shoulder or arm, and which one's idea it was, because picturing the expressions of awkwardness on their faces is wonderful. X3
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Post by TheAldella » Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:47 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:You know, a while ago I wrote that Freeza would blow up the planet and Whis would reverse time. Before that, I joked about Goku and Vegeta holding hands to beat Freeza (I added Broly in this dialogue, which upset Dyno...). There's a small line of dialogue in the second chapter of the manga that I wrote nearly word for word months before it was ever released. I was not the least bit shocked or surprised when I saw Golden Freeza.

This movie has met all my expectations. lol.
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Post by Doctor. » Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:47 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:You know, a while ago I wrote that Freeza would blow up the planet and Whis would reverse time.
I think we all did.

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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:48 pm

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SansrivaaL wrote:Oh darn it! I hoped that they can transform to those blue saiyan mode without help but it seems AT is going the yaoi way now, first 2 guy's dancing to fuse, and now 2 guy's holding hands to transform! I wouldnt be surprised if the next time they need to kiss to obtain a new transformation. I miss the rage transformations :problem:
Uh...if all it takes for you to scream 'EWW YAOI' is hand holding, I'd suggest you seriously try opening your mindset up a little. Cuz, really? Wow.
I never said it was ''eww'' Yaoi is a genre I was not discriminating it, I merely said AT was going that route for giggles, seriously try to relax u dont have to be serious about 1 guy's comment.
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Post by bleed0range » Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:48 pm

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Ah good. I'd rather they master the ability to do it themselves, then basically make 2 Saiyans become the ritual.
Yeah the ritual thing in BOG was one of my least favorite things about the whole film and the whole SSJ God transformation.
Personally I would have rathered it be something not so....convenient. I get why no one else uses it, but we're a galaxy or so away from God Tarble. Also in my personal opinion I'd rather it not have been called SSJ God at all.
The terms "super saiyan" and "god" seem fine to me on their own. But the transformation is not really a super saiyan transformation until I guess... now. Now that it's blue with the SSJ hair. Before it wasn't SSJ, but it was the transformation to Godly power.

At the same time. I never liked the way they did it, the whole "God" thing, it didn't make much sense in the lore. Is it that easy to become a God for any other race? It seems odd that the God gets a huge power boost while Kami on Earth does not get any kind of special "God" power. So it seems inconsistent. How come a saiyan can get such a huge power boost for being a God when Kami doesn't. I mean, that put Goku nearly on the level of Beerus.

Like you said, it's also too convenient. Hold some hands together with enough saiyans and presto-change-o you got yourself a GOD!! And I guess ANYONE can be a God!

To me, that's not the fault of Toriyama as he was just helping with a script he did not write and making alterations to a concept he didn't come up with. But I think it would have just been better for Goku to have achieved a new transformation on his own that wasn't a Godly power. Maybe something inside him that just burst out that he didn't expect during their fight like how he absorbed the transformation. And then afterwards he hones that skill with Whis. It would make more sense that way. I dunno, it just seems too easy for him to just be a God and somehow retain the power of a God.

At the same time, Goku has been in the presence of so many Gods that it kind of would make sense for him to eventually be given the title or something... but just not how they did it.

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Post by SansrivaaL » Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:48 pm

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FinalFlash wrote:Not to dwell on the hilarity of Goku and Vegeta's handholding, but all the information today makes me really excited for the eventual Team Four Star dub of this movie. It seems like there will be a lot of prime material for those guys!
I want to know why they chose to do that instead of put a hand on a shoulder or arm, and which one's idea it was, because picturing the expressions of awkwardness on their faces is wonderful. X3
ikr, normally Goku just puts his hands on the shoulder of that person, maybe he was teasing Vegeta, AT's way to make a gag moment.

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Post by Sandubadear » Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:49 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:You know, a while ago I wrote that Freeza would blow up the planet and Whis would reverse time. Before that, I joked about Goku and Vegeta holding hands to beat Freeza (I added Broly in this dialogue, which upset Dyno...). There's a small line of dialogue in the second chapter of the manga that I wrote nearly word for word months before it was ever released. I was not the least bit shocked or surprised when I saw Golden Freeza.

This movie has met all my expectations. lol.
Ever since chapter 2 of the manga was released, I knew that Earth being destroyed was a thing, and Whis would use his time reversal to help Goku.
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Post by fadeddreams5 » Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:50 pm

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fadeddreams5 wrote:You know, a while ago I wrote that Freeza would blow up the planet and Whis would reverse time. Before that, I joked about Goku and Vegeta holding hands (I added Broly in this dialogue, which upset Dyno...). There's a small line of dialogue in the second chapter of the manga that I wrote nearly word for word months before it was ever released. I was not the least bit shocked or surprised when I saw Golden Freeza.

This movie has met all my expectations. lol.
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Those are just stuff I wrote in this thread that I expected to occur in the movie. Just find it a bit funny. =P
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Post by Bullza » Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:51 pm

I find it kinda funny in a way that for months there was all this discussion on Frieza's new form and yet until a few days ago there was really no mention of Goku or Vegeta's new form in the movie.

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Post by bleed0range » Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:52 pm

Bullza wrote:I find it kinda funny in a way that for months there was all this discussion on Freeza's new form and yet until a few days ago there was really no mention of Goku or Vegeta's new form in the movie.
I don't think they made it very apparent that there was a new transformation for them, while they did basically spell out that Freeza would.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:54 pm

bleed0range wrote: The terms "super saiyan" and "god" seem fine to me on their own. But the transformation is not really a super saiyan transformation until I guess... now. Now that it's blue with the SSJ hair. Before it wasn't SSJ, but it was the transformation to Godly power.

At the same time. I never liked the way they did it, the whole "God" thing, it didn't make much sense in the lore. Is it that easy to become a God for any other race? It seems odd that the God gets a huge power boost while Kami on Earth does not get any kind of special "God" power. So it seems inconsistent. How come a saiyan can get such a huge power boost for being a God when Kami doesn't. I mean, that put Goku nearly on the level of Beerus.

Like you said, it's also too convenient. Hold some hands together with enough saiyans and presto-change-o you got yourself a GOD!! And I guess ANYONE can be a God!

To me, that's not the fault of Toriyama as he was just helping with a script he did not write and making alterations to a concept he didn't come up with. But I think it would have just been better for Goku to have achieved a new transformation on his own that wasn't a Godly power. Maybe something inside him that just burst out that he didn't expect during their fight like how he absorbed the transformation. And then afterwards he hones that skill with Whis. It would make more sense that way. I dunno, it just seems too easy for him to just be a God and somehow retain the power of a God.

At the same time, Goku has been in the presence of so many Gods that it kind of would make sense for him to eventually be given the title or something... but just not how they did it.
Woulda rather those terms be separate, though I hold out for this new.....blue thing...

I'm not fond of messiah saiyans. We're just one step away to find out that saiyans are descendants of the multi-verse creator. How come no other race has anything remotely close to this too?

Any good Saiyan can be a god. Hence Tarble. If he screws up he can always try again. Praise God Tarble.
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Post by FinalFlash » Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:55 pm

Bullza wrote:I find it kinda funny in a way that for months there was all this discussion on Freeza's new form and yet until a few days ago there was really no mention of Goku or Vegeta's new form in the movie.
Maybe they thought it wouldn't be terribly effective from a marketing perspective? It seems as though there are a number of people already decrying the form as lazy or uninspired. Since it does seem to essentially be SSG/SSJ but blue, maybe they thought it better to keep it as a surprise to avoid any potential fan backlash prior to the film.

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Post by SansrivaaL » Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:55 pm

I have a feeling we would enjoy the movie a lot more if we didnt get spoiled but dang this curiosity, its hard to resist! srsly cant wait for the movie and how it would look like in 3D, never saw an anime 3D before, this is history in the making.

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dbzfan7 wrote:I'm not fond of messiah saiyans. We're just one step away to find out that saiyans are descendants of the multi-verse creator. How come no other race has anything remotely close to this too?

Any good Saiyan can be a god. Hence Tarble. If he screws up he can always try again. Praise God Tarble.
Freeza apparently does.

They could easily fix this by saying that beings that are already SSJGs can't participate in the ritual to make another Saiyan a SSJG, it would seem like a less cheap transformation that way.

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Post by Bullza » Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:57 pm

bleed0range wrote:
Bullza wrote:I find it kinda funny in a way that for months there was all this discussion on Freeza's new form and yet until a few days ago there was really no mention of Goku or Vegeta's new form in the movie.
I don't think they made it very apparent that there was a new transformation for them, while they did basically spell out that Freeza would.
Which is why I find it funny, had it been k own that Goku and Vegeta were to get new forms the movie would have probably have got even more interest and discussion than it actually had.

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Post by Chuquita » Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:00 pm

SansrivaaL wrote:
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FinalFlash wrote:Not to dwell on the hilarity of Goku and Vegeta's handholding, but all the information today makes me really excited for the eventual Team Four Star dub of this movie. It seems like there will be a lot of prime material for those guys!
I want to know why they chose to do that instead of put a hand on a shoulder or arm, and which one's idea it was, because picturing the expressions of awkwardness on their faces is wonderful. X3
ikr, normally Goku just puts his hands on the shoulder of that person, maybe he was teasing Vegeta, AT's way to make a gag moment.
If that drawing on Julian's twitter feed is accurate, it looks like Gokû initiated it. When you take someone's hand like that, the person who starts it normally has their palm facing upward.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:01 pm

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dbzfan7 wrote:I'm not fond of messiah saiyans. We're just one step away to find out that saiyans are descendants of the multi-verse creator. How come no other race has anything remotely close to this too?

Any good Saiyan can be a god. Hence Tarble. If he screws up he can always try again. Praise God Tarble.
Freeza apparently does.

They could easily fix this by saying that beings that are already SSJGs can't participate in the ritual to make another Saiyan a SSJG, it would seem like a less cheap transformation that way.
Guess mutants only.

Cheap way to keep the power up to the two of them, but also a good way to keep things not so exploitable. Guess it's a fair trade.
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Post by Bullza » Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:02 pm

Seeing as it looks like we won't be getting the summary anytime soon because Julian is probably asleep, would it really have been so hard for him to just let people know that he wasn't going to be posting up a summary today?

He must have known that there were going to be plenty of people that were going to be waiting to hear what he had to say, some people were staying up for it and getting up early for it.

But he just went to sleep without even bothering to let people know?
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