"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Post by Noah » Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:37 pm

Alee9977 wrote:I only want Hironobu Kageyama back.
And Shunsuke Kikuchi :)
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Post by Chuquita » Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:46 pm

I really miss Kikuchi. I associate his music with Dragon Ball so much.
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Post by Sodhi » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:08 pm

I really miss Kikuchi and Hironobu Kageyama

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Post by kinisking » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:43 pm

Say what you want, but I miss Bruce Faulconer
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Xeztin » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:05 pm

kinisking wrote:Say what you want, but I miss Bruce Faulconer
Me too... The opening to dubbed Kai is fine, but at the end I hate that song. Could really throw some electric guitar in there for nostalgia sake.

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Post by PMD » Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:54 am

kinisking wrote:Say what you want, but I miss Bruce Faulconer
I don't like his work at all. I listened to DBZ music in USA version and it's awful.
Sodhi wrote:I really miss Kikuchi and Hironobu Kageyama
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Yomi » Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:05 am

Bruce Faulconer felt out of place all the time.

Like during Gohan SSJ2 vs Cell, the soundtrack just abruptly changes from "Gohan Rage song" to "Comic relief song"
or it would just have random guitar stings and strings just playing randomly with maybe like a xylophone key once in a while
it was garbage.

I see why people like it though.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Lujin_16 » Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:24 am

Fore me the japanese soundtrack will always be the best for me

I love the soundtrack from the Trunks Arc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u091_iJPhT8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXT3_baztYs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isi3xXYiO2Q

I don't think it s a good idea to change the soundtrack because the soundtrack is perfect

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:37 am

Yomi wrote:Bruce Faulconer felt out of place all the time.

Like during Gohan SSJ2 vs Cell, the soundtrack just abruptly changes from "Gohan Rage song" to "Comic relief song"
or it would just have random guitar stings and strings just playing randomly with maybe like a xylophone key once in a while
it was garbage.

I see why people like it though.
Biggest problem was there was hardly a moment of silence. There are some really well done tracks and moments, it works with the old dub but not with Kai or new movies dub.

With Digimon confirmed to have changed Music for Tri dub. Makes more glad that FUNi didn't change anything for Kai or the new movies quite sad that the practice of changing music is still active.

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Post by Lunaar » Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:45 am

GOODNESS, leave it to one aside comment about music opinions to derail this thread into OST posts. Really not trying to play mod here, but sheesh - checking the most recent page of an announcement threadand finding a marathon of the same "I like the [insert version here] better" fluff is really fffffffffffffff-

Now I know this subject (despite it's complete irrelevancy in origin) is the hottest butter to spread on the playground lately, but am I the only one who thinks that a Super Saiyan White transformation for Black would be a huge disappointment? Power scaling is already a mess with SSG, SSB, Golden Forms and everything in-between... throwing in a transformation for a character (that may not even be a Saiyan, we don't know yet) just for the "eviiiiiil Goku" gimmick would sort of sour the surprisingly cool-headed and malevolent villain we've seen so far. Yeah - he seems to just "adapt" power/techniques/feels(?), but to what extent? Would that mean that humans to some extent could learn how to attain such potential through "feeling" such a ki?

Maybe I'm asking too many questions for this show, but the possibility of Black gaining that power just makes my head all sorts of scratchy. We just don't know enough yet.
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Post by Anime Kitten » Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:50 am

No. It would be extremely disappointing. I don't want him to transform very much, but if he does, it needs to be worth it.
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Post by kinisking » Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:00 pm

Lunaar wrote:GOODNESS, leave it to one aside comment about music opinions to derail this thread into OST posts. Really not trying to play mod here, but sheesh - checking the most recent page of an announcement threadand finding a marathon of the same "I like the [insert version here] better" fluff is really fffffffffffffff-

Now I know this subject (despite it's complete irrelevancy in origin) is the hottest butter to spread on the playground lately, but am I the only one who thinks that a Super Saiyan White transformation for Black would be a huge disappointment? Power scaling is already a mess with SSG, SSB, Golden Forms and everything in-between... throwing in a transformation for a character (that may not even be a Saiyan, we don't know yet) just for the "eviiiiiil Goku" gimmick would sort of sour the surprisingly cool-headed and malevolent villain we've seen so far. Yeah - he seems to just "adapt" power/techniques/feels(?), but to what extent? Would that mean that humans to some extent could learn how to attain such potential through "feeling" such a ki?

Maybe I'm asking too many questions for this show, but the possibility of Black gaining that power just makes my head all sorts of scratchy. We just don't know enough yet.
Sorry to burst your bubble but your questions aren't really on topic either. But to answer your question, yes I would like a super saiyan white for black
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Lunaar » Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:13 pm

kinisking wrote:Sorry to burst your bubble but your questions aren't really on topic either. But to answer your question, yes I would like a super saiyan white for black
Consider my bubble burst'd, but it's more on topic to discuss potential future developments of Dragon Ball Super than stating opinions on BGM preferences in Dragon Ball Z... especially when we're never going to get Shunsuke Kikuchi back. Ever. prove me wrong, Toei.....

I understand there's a lot of hype and desire for a Super Saiyan White, but I just don't get it. I'm just asking for a little discussion on why the majority of the fandom's opinion is hyped to this extent. Is it for the sake of having more forms to play with in video games? Is it genuine excitement for plot development? ...maybe I'll take this somewhere else.

I am on the "Gohan deserves to happy" boat, despite me desperately wanting this dangling "training with Piccolo" plot thread to actually go somewhere. I'd rather him be a scholar that dropped fighting to become a family man, than someone who desires to protect his family and amounts to... whatever this show is doing with him currently. ...on the other hand, if he goes SSB I might flip a table.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Nejishiki » Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:29 pm

I honestly believe that fans want to connect a, "Super Saiyan White", to Goku Black due to Toriyama scrapping it for Super Saiyan Blue. Had it never been revealed to be a former concept, it's likely everyone would assume he possessed the normal versions or none at all.

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Post by kinisking » Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:34 pm

Lunaar wrote:
kinisking wrote:Sorry to burst your bubble but your questions aren't really on topic either. But to answer your question, yes I would like a super saiyan white for black
Consider my bubble burst'd, but it's more on topic to discuss potential future developments of Dragon Ball Super than stating opinions on BGM preferences in Dragon Ball Z... especially when we're never going to get Shunsuke Kikuchi back. Ever. prove me wrong, Toei.....

I understand there's a lot of hype and desire for a Super Saiyan White, but I just don't get it. I'm just asking for a little discussion on why the majority of the fandom's opinion is hyped to this extent. Is it for the sake of having more forms to play with in video games? Is it genuine excitement for plot development? ...maybe I'll take this somewhere else.

I am on the "Gohan deserves to happy" boat, despite me desperately wanting this dangling "training with Piccolo" plot thread to actually go somewhere. I'd rather him be a scholar that dropped fighting to become a family man, than someone who desires to protect his family and amounts to... whatever this show is doing with him currently. ...on the other hand, if he goes SSB I might flip a table.
So I assume you're against super saiyans being passed around? I'd like back to have a transformation because after all he does have a Saiyan body so it would make sense. Not only that but I'd love there to be a role reversal where the villian unlocks a super saiyan transformation out of desperation and starts bearing the main guys. Also white would look good with his outfit. I disagree about gohan and ssb though. I've seen a lot of people not want it because it makes the transformation less special but I don't get why that matters. Transformations are just a level of power and restricting anyone of the cast from that sucks. Although I'd rather him go a Mystic esque route and fight with his base form all the time
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Xeztin » Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:09 pm

Lunaar wrote:
kinisking wrote:Sorry to burst your bubble but your questions aren't really on topic either. But to answer your question, yes I would like a super saiyan white for black
Consider my bubble burst'd, but it's more on topic to discuss potential future developments of Dragon Ball Super than stating opinions on BGM preferences in Dragon Ball Z... especially when we're never going to get Shunsuke Kikuchi back. Ever. prove me wrong, Toei.....

I understand there's a lot of hype and desire for a Super Saiyan White, but I just don't get it. I'm just asking for a little discussion on why the majority of the fandom's opinion is hyped to this extent. Is it for the sake of having more forms to play with in video games? Is it genuine excitement for plot development? ...maybe I'll take this somewhere else.

I am on the "Gohan deserves to happy" boat, despite me desperately wanting this dangling "training with Piccolo" plot thread to actually go somewhere. I'd rather him be a scholar that dropped fighting to become a family man, than someone who desires to protect his family and amounts to... whatever this show is doing with him currently. ...on the other hand, if he goes SSB I might flip a table.

That's being a bit too strict on yourself and others, if the topic was really only about announcements we wouldn't have 1000 pages of it. Your bound to sway off when one thing leads to another. I'd love for Black to have a Super Saiyan white just because it was an idea at one time, though I don't think Black's going to keep Goku's body long enough to do that. Also I think anyone reaching SSJB aside from Goku or Vegeta or perhaps U6 Sayians are out of the question. That's not to say Gohan can't get stronger with a different transformation or what have you, but the current plot will never allow him to surpass his old man. Same goes for Trunks to be honest.

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Lunaar wrote:I am on the "Gohan deserves to happy" boat, despite me desperately wanting this dangling "training with Piccolo" plot thread to actually go somewhere. I'd rather him be a scholar that dropped fighting to become a family man, than someone who desires to protect his family and amounts to... whatever this show is doing with him currently. ...on the other hand, if he goes SSB I might flip a table.
The problem is he's never really gonna be happy forever, unless he lives in a bubble. Even he himself said the earth is constantly under attack. So really his happiness is going to be challenged constantly, and he'll never attain ever lasting peace. Not unless he decides to live in a secluded bubble.
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Post by kinisking » Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:20 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:
Lunaar wrote:I am on the "Gohan deserves to happy" boat, despite me desperately wanting this dangling "training with Piccolo" plot thread to actually go somewhere. I'd rather him be a scholar that dropped fighting to become a family man, than someone who desires to protect his family and amounts to... whatever this show is doing with him currently. ...on the other hand, if he goes SSB I might flip a table.
The problem is he's never really gonna be happy forever, unless he lives in a bubble. Even he himself said the earth is constantly under attack. So really his happiness is going to be challenged constantly, and he'll never attain ever lasting peace. Not unless he decides to live in a secluded bubble.
That was toei gohan who said that. And he actually trains so at least he's the smart gohan.
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kinisking wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:
Lunaar wrote:I am on the "Gohan deserves to happy" boat, despite me desperately wanting this dangling "training with Piccolo" plot thread to actually go somewhere. I'd rather him be a scholar that dropped fighting to become a family man, than someone who desires to protect his family and amounts to... whatever this show is doing with him currently. ...on the other hand, if he goes SSB I might flip a table.
The problem is he's never really gonna be happy forever, unless he lives in a bubble. Even he himself said the earth is constantly under attack. So really his happiness is going to be challenged constantly, and he'll never attain ever lasting peace. Not unless he decides to live in a secluded bubble.
That was toei gohan who said that. And he actually trains so at least he's the smart gohan.
I can't really say whether it was or not. Whether it was or wasn't, I believe the point still stands. If he thinks he can live happily without any incident, then he's not really bright. It seems at the moment he counts on his father to preserve that happiness, and probably would be forced to give up and be helpless if he ever fails.
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Post by fadeddreams5 » Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:27 pm

It's interesting how anytime someone says they like or miss Faulconer on these forums, you get two-three replies stating how it never fit or how terrible it is. It's like people get defensive cause it replaced Kikuchi. lol.

I prefer Faulconer to Kikuchi's track, but like both and acknowledge that Faulconer's track really didn't know when to stop playing. They're miles better than the crap in Super and Buu-Kai. The placement of Kikuchi's OST in Kai is absolute garbage though. Kai's post-Yamamoto OST in general is dreadful--only thing that kills the show for me.

Anyways, on-topic, I find it interesting that Goku Black was sucked back into his timeline. That pretty much debunked my theory that he was from a distant future. They have so much explaining to do with this character, I'm actually very curious with the direction they go.
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