"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[sintzu]

The problem you have is that you never criticise anything and think everything is perfect in the whole franchise.

People can criticise and have any opinion they like or there is no point of discussing all these different topics.

Fanboys like him who think everything is perfect are always the 1st ones to complain when things get really bad.

[Anime Kitten]

The tournament depends on how many participants for each universe, It should be 5 or the fans will end up rioting though.

1. Goku
2. Vegeta
3. Piccolo
4. Buu ?
5. Future Trunks ?

The only person different is Future Trunks instead of Monaka. I honestly don't want Buu there, at all.

[Xeztin]

The tournament depends on how many participants for each universe, It should be 5 or the fans will end up rioting though.

1. Goku
2. Vegeta
3. Piccolo
4. Buu ?
5. Future Trunks ?

The only person different is Future Trunks instead of Monaka. I honestly don't want Buu there, at all.

I think we will meet many more possible characters before that tourney arc comes.

[alakazam^]

The problem you have is that you never criticise anything and think everything is perfect in the whole franchise.

People can criticise and have any opinion they like or there is no point of discussing all these different topics.

People can criticise and have any opinion they like, right? So, you have an issue with what I said because...

I'm sorry, but you're wrong. You don't know me and you have no idea what you're talking about. Just because I don't mindlessly complain with poor (or none, actually) arguments doesn't mean I think everything is perfect. Just because you guys repeat the "problems" you think Super has ad nauseam, it doesn't make them any more real except in your head.

[nite_jay]

The tournament depends on how many participants for each universe, It should be 5 or the fans will end up rioting though.

1. Goku
2. Vegeta
3. Piccolo
4. Buu ?
5. Future Trunks ?

The only person different is Future Trunks instead of Monaka. I honestly don't want Buu there, at all.

A nice way to reintroduce Gohan would be for the tournament, but by now I know not to get my hopes up.

[sintzu]

That's their choice and there's nothing wrong with it.

What Super needs to do is what it wants to do, not indulge in what fans think the show should be.

What if Super decided to indulge in what fans want ? you can't say they'd be wrong because you said they can do whatever they want but you can't say they'd be right because you just said they shouldn't do that.

People can criticise and have any opinion they like, right? So, you have an issue with what I said because...

Because it seems like you don't have an opinion, you're just agreeing with everything Super does because that's what it wants to do, not because you actually agree with it.

[namekiansaiyan]

The tournament depends on how many participants for each universe, It should be 5 or the fans will end up rioting though.

1. Goku
2. Vegeta
3. Piccolo
4. Buu ?
5. Future Trunks ?

The only person different is Future Trunks instead of Monaka. I honestly don't want Buu there, at all.

I think we will meet many more possible characters before that tourney arc comes.

That is why I put a question mark. I can't put together a case for anyone else. Before the participants for the universe 6 vs 7 were announced, I was only certain that Goku, Vegeta and Piccolo would fight. Buu I was about 50% sure and for the 5th I did not really have a clue as I knew that Toriyama would struggle with the last spot. I just can't imagine Gohan, Goten, Trunks and the rest competing.

New characters should happen to fill the rest of the spaces.

The problem you have is that you never criticise anything and think everything is perfect in the whole franchise.

People can criticise and have any opinion they like or there is no point of discussing all these different topics.

People can criticise and have any opinion they like, right? So, you have an issue with what I said because...

I'm sorry, but you're wrong. You don't know me and you have no idea what you're talking about. Just because I don't mindlessly complain with poor (or none, actually) arguments doesn't mean I think everything is perfect. Just because you guys repeat the "problems" you think Super has ad nauseam, it doesn't make them any more real except in your head.

I am just going on your previous posts.

[alakazam^]

Fanboys like him who think everything is perfect are always the 1st ones to complain when things get really bad.

Except nothing is getting really bad. Use petty insults all you want since you can't get your facts straight, you don't know me and I'd rather have smart discussions with someone that knows how to have them.

What if Super decided to indulge in what fans want ? you can't say they'd be wrong because you said they can do whatever they want but you can't say they'd be right because you just said they shouldn't do that.

If Super decides to do that then that's the direction it should go, what's important is for the show to be coherent. There's a difference between a show losing all identity just to please fans and tweaking stuff as it goes along.

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

Another thing I noticed is how the arcs don't connect at all, Super feels like random arcs put together rather then one story spread across multiple connected arcs which like RF could be due to them not being confident enough in what they're doing.

Having "non-connected" story arcs is a legit way of doing storytelling, having them connected is not mandatory.

The BoG arc is connected by Freeza and the Saiyans. Ressurection F is connected to BoG (by Beerus and Whis) and The android & Cell Arc (by Freeza). Universe 6 can't happen without BoG since the former set up the setting for this arc.

[kinisking]

Another thing I noticed is how the arcs don't connect at all, Super feels like random arcs put together rather then one story spread across multiple connected arcs which like RF could be due to them not being confident enough in what they're doing.

Having "non-connected" story arcs is a legit way of doing storytelling, having them connected is not mandatory.

The BoG arc is connected by Freeza and the Saiyans. Ressurection F is connected to BoG (by Beerus and Whis) and The android & Cell Arc (by Freeza). Universe 6 can't happen without BoG since the former set up the setting for this arc.

Yeah got to disagree with him there. It's connecting just as much as Z ever did. Only saiyan and freeza arcs were truly connected. Cell and buu were mostly stand alone with some references to old arcs here and there. Same with super.

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

Because it seems like you don't have an opinion, you're just agreeing with everything Super does because that's what it wants to do, not because you actually agree with it.

If he/she thinks something positive about SUPER that's an opinion of his/her own, therefore there's no lack of opinion. Being critical of something =/= saying negative things only as well as being positive about something =/= lack of opinion.

[alakazam^]

Because it seems like you don't have an opinion, you're just agreeing with everything Super does because that's what it wants to do, not because you actually agree with it.

There's no such thing as not having an opinion as even what you described is an opinion. I don't type everything I think, do you? I'd rather spend my time enjoying Super than wasting it by being annoyed while knowing no one in the staff cares about my opinion and will change the show to accommodate me.

I am just going on your previous posts.

Sure but don't put words in my mouth.

[Sandubadear]

The tournament depends on how many participants for each universe, It should be 5 or the fans will end up rioting though.

1. Goku
2. Vegeta
3. Piccolo
4. Buu ?
5. Future Trunks ?

I think that instead of 5 (would be 50 new characters from the 10 new universes), we'll have only 3 on each team. They wouldn't put Buu on the team again since he failed last time, and Beerus can give an excuse like "Monaca has to work so he can't come". I think Trunks won't be on the tournament since it will be after his arc ends. U6 can be Hit, Cabba (with him having unlocked SS2 and SS3, maybe?), and Magetta/Botamo (definitely not Frost). With 3 on each team, it would be 24 30 new characters.

Edit: I need to go back to school.

[ChronoTwigger]

The tournament depends on how many participants for each universe, It should be 5 or the fans will end up rioting though.

1. Goku
2. Vegeta
3. Piccolo
4. Buu ?
5. Future Trunks ?

The tournament will be a free for all. They don't want to show the best universe, only the best fighter amongst all inhabitants.
So, even 100 fighters by universe. Even Yamcha could sign in.
Tests, broad preliminaries, then a 8 classic ending phase. Goku Vegeta Hit Cabba and someone else.
Don't EVEN think about a 30 or 20 new characters being introduced: that didn't happened in the DB golden age, it cannot happen now.

[Neon Z]

Yeah, a singles tournament makes much more sense for the multi-universe one. Multiple battles of 5 vs 5 or even 3 vs 3 teams would result in either a really long tournament (like Yu Yu Hakusho's dark tournament), which is unlikely considering the length of Super's arcs, or most teams just having completely underdeveloped and useless fighters.

[Nejishiki]

Team battles would be a welcome addition to Dragon Ball. I wonder if Toriyama has it in him to write interesting scenarios with multiple characters working together? It wasn't explored very often in the original series, but the times it happened were memorable.

[Anime Kitten]

Team battles would be a welcome addition to Dragon Ball. I wonder if Toriyama has it in him to write interesting scenarios with multiple characters working together? It wasn't explored very often in the original series, but the times it happened were memorable.

I agree, but nothing beats a classic one-on-one. I'd LOVE to see Goku and Hit on a team.

[Xeztin]

Does anyone else think with a popular character like Future Trunks boosting ratings that they might try to use other popular characters such as Broly with a re-written story or something? Broly or some incarnation of him I'm fine with, but I hope we don't end up with Bojack and basically every movie character. The reason I ask this is because everything that's released such as candy or a figure set, Broly is apart of it because of his popularity. A thrive for higher ratings might backfire in the long run

[kinisking]

Does anyone else think with a popular character like Future Trunks boosting ratings that they might try to use other popular characters such as Broly with a re-written story or something? Broly or some incarnation of him I'm fine with, but I hope we don't end up with Bojack and basically every movie character. The reason I ask this is because everything that's released such as candy or a figure set, Broly is apart of it because of his popularity. A thrive for higher ratings might backfire in the long run

If they really wanted a popular character they would utilize Gohan better.

[sophitia]

Future Trunks arc is great so far. Keeping expectation low is the key I think.