Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Chuquita]

Kei, does magenta ssjg Gokû appear at all?

[Vegitofaxx]

2017 goku:

Spoiler:

(on an unrelated note) God I hate the way Tenkaichi feet look!

2019 goku

Spoiler:

Seriously,Dragon Ball fans have incredible vision

[Cold Skin]

So basically, this movie keeps new movies exactly like we want: a new saga continuing the manga.

BATTLE OF GODS: The usual introduction of the new saga, introducing the new characters, the new universe elements, the new top level of strength, etc...
RESURRECTION "F": The traditionnal training phase at the beginning of the new saga, which now is like a real fight (but not revealing a new enemy, rather updating an old one as training) that the masters watch to teach their pupils the required lessons and be there as a fail safe.
NEXT MOVIE: ??? (usual continuation of a saga after the introduction and the traditionnal training phase).

We have what we want, guys: it's just as if the manga continued, those are not to be considered separate movies but like continuous chapters and episodes, with some of them being story-heavy, others being purely action, others being "friends and family" time and gags-heavy, some being inconsequential fights against threats that are not really threats, others being game-changing fights against real threats, etc...

Again, those movies are just tracing what a new saga would exactly be in the manga continuation: light atmosphere followed by introduction of a new level of strength or objective to reach along with new universe elements, followed by the training phase... Guess what's next if you think of how a typical Dragon Ball arc unfolds.

[SSJGFrieza]

Exactly, this is classic Dragon Ball Z, and I cannot wait to see it whenever that may be, come on MangaUK license this already!

That's the problem it's classic DBZ
Battle of Gods was great because it was in the spirit of classic Dragon Ball while introducing some new elements to the story and ending on a cliffhanger that could and should be explored.

F on the other hand is just fighting with a waste of a villain beaten only because of deus ex machina
Plus it seemingly doesn't follow up on the whole 11 other universes plot.

We are you getting that it was a training session for Goku and Vegeta? If you are talking Kei17's comment, then wasn't that just his interpretation? Freeza knocked down Goku and blew up Earth, if it weren't for Whis then Freeza would have had the perfect revenge, hardly ruined his image at all.

Judging by the spoilers Freeza never had a chance against either of them.

He only beat Goku with interference from Sorbet and then got whooped by Vegeta.

[Vegitofaxx]

So basically, this movie keeps new movies exactly like we want: a new saga continuing the manga.

BATTLE OF GODS: The usual introduction of the new saga, introducing the new characters, the new universe elements, the new top level of strength, etc...
RESURRECTION "F": The traditionnal training phase at the beginning of the new saga, which now is like a real fight (but not revealing a new enemy, rather updating an old one as training) that the masters watch to teach their pupils the required lessons and be there as a fail safe.
NEXT MOVIE: ??? (usual continuation of a saga after the introduction and the traditionnal training phase).

We have what we want, guys: it's just as if the manga continued, those are not to be considered separate movies but like continuous chapters and episodes, with some of them being story-heavy, others being purely action, others being "friends and family" time and gags-heavy, some being inconsequential fights against threats that are not really threats, others being game-changing fights against real threats, etc...

Again, those movies are just tracing what a new saga would exactly be in the manga continuation: light atmosphere followed by introduction of a new level of strength or objective to reach along with new universe elements, followed by the training phase... Guess what's next if you think of how a typical Dragon Ball arc unfolds.

Y'know, putting it like you just did made me a lot more hopeful. If it pans out like that, I'm happy

[Tennessaiyan]

So basically, this movie keeps new movies exactly like we want: a new saga continuing the manga.

BATTLE OF GODS: The usual introduction of the new saga, introducing the new characters, the new universe elements, the new top level of strength, etc...
RESURRECTION "F": The traditionnal training phase at the beginning of the new saga, which now is like a real fight (but not revealing a new enemy, rather updating an old one as training) that the masters watch to teach their pupils the required lessons and be there as a fail safe.
NEXT MOVIE: ??? (usual continuation of a saga after the introduction and the traditionnal training phase).

We have what we want, guys: it's just as if the manga continued, those are not to be considered separate movies but like continuous chapters and episodes, with some of them being story-heavy, others being purely action, others being "friends and family" time and gags-heavy, some being inconsequential fights against threats that are not really threats, others being game-changing fights against real threats, etc...

Again, those movies are just tracing what a new saga would exactly be in the manga continuation: light atmosphere followed by introduction of a new level of strength or objective to reach along with new universe elements, followed by the training phase... Guess what's next if you think of how a typical Dragon Ball arc unfolds.

Y'know, putting it like you just did made me a lot more hopeful. If it pans out like that, I'm happy

Same. I REALLY hope you are right about that. I don't want a continuous flow of just pure action.

[mAcChaos]

He only beat Goku with interference from Sorbet and then got whooped by Vegeta.

Isn't that better? People were complaining about how Freeza getting to be strong enough to beat them was cheapening all their work over the years.

[Sora Saiyan]

So basically, this movie keeps new movies exactly like we want: a new saga continuing the manga.

BATTLE OF GODS: The usual introduction of the new saga, introducing the new characters, the new universe elements, the new top level of strength, etc...
RESURRECTION "F": The traditionnal training phase at the beginning of the new saga, which now is like a real fight (but not revealing a new enemy, rather updating an old one as training) that the masters watch to teach their pupils the required lessons and be there as a fail safe.
NEXT MOVIE: ??? (usual continuation of a saga after the introduction and the traditionnal training phase).

We have what we want, guys: it's just as if the manga continued, those are not to be considered separate movies but like continuous chapters and episodes, with some of them being story-heavy, others being purely action, others being "friends and family" time and gags-heavy, some being inconsequential fights against threats that are not really threats, others being game-changing fights against real threats, etc...

Again, those movies are just tracing what a new saga would exactly be in the manga continuation: light atmosphere followed by introduction of a new level of strength or objective to reach along with new universe elements, followed by the training phase... Guess what's next if you think of how a typical Dragon Ball arc unfolds.

This is perfect! Couldn't say it better myself. Just hoping we'll get them universes explored soon.

[SansrivaaL]

So basically, this movie keeps new movies exactly like we want: a new saga continuing the manga.

BATTLE OF GODS: The usual introduction of the new saga, introducing the new characters, the new universe elements, the new top level of strength, etc...
RESURRECTION "F": The traditionnal training phase at the beginning of the new saga, which now is like a real fight (but not revealing a new enemy, rather updating an old one as training) that the masters watch to teach their pupils the required lessons and be there as a fail safe.
NEXT MOVIE: ??? (usual continuation of a saga after the introduction and the traditionnal training phase).

We have what we want, guys: it's just as if the manga continued, those are not to be considered separate movies but like continuous chapters and episodes, with some of them being story-heavy, others being purely action, others being "friends and family" time and gags-heavy, some being inconsequential fights against threats that are not really threats, others being game-changing fights against real threats, etc...

Again, those movies are just tracing what a new saga would exactly be in the manga continuation: light atmosphere followed by introduction of a new level of strength or objective to reach along with new universe elements, followed by the training phase... Guess what's next if you think of how a typical Dragon Ball arc unfolds.

Good point. Hopefully ur spot on and opens something new, from my point of view they have done all the requirements to do a continous saga now (other universe).

[Doctor.]

Goku once more shows his mercy.

Exactly what I feared

Goku already showed he can kill his opponents when there's no other option left, ever since, coincidentally, Freeza betrayed him.

[Lord Beerus]

Here's my quick critique.


THIS IS NOT A MOVIE.

There's a Japanese term 起承転結 (introduction, development, turn, conclusion) which is often referred to when it comes to writing fiction, and Resurrection F completely lacks development in it. Foes appear, warriors gather, fight, then win. There is no development in the story. It's just punch, punch, kick, beam, funny conversations, punch, beam, funny reactions, beam, punch, Kamehameha! I can even hardly call this a story. It fails to be something enough calling a movie.

However, that doesn't mean it's not entertaining. It sure has a lot of charms. It's got a lot of hilarious and heartwarming moments (like Jaco's funny lines, Piccolo rocking Pan's cradle and Android 18 showing her love for Krillin) that definitely entertain fans, and the characters feel very on-character thanks to Toriyama. Also, a lot of the fight sequences were much better than my expectations. They're mainly focused on fist-to-fist struggles and it's not a boring beam show that GT was. Especially, Kamesen'nin was really badass this time. You ought to check it out yourself.

Things that bugged me were some really amateurish transitions of scenes, the persistent and unfunny gag moments by Beerus, and the choreography of battle sequences. Some scenes were suddenly inserted that I couldn't immediately understand what's happening. For example, Sorbet finds Pilaf and co in his space ship, and within the next two shots, they're already trapped in the ship and talking with Sorbet. It could have been a lot better by showing Pilaf and his gang first, then the space ship comes, trapped, and Sorbet gets introduced. Also, though Freeza mentions his training for a few months, the training itself is never shown and you don't understand how he could have become stronger. He just comes to the Earth shortly after his resurrection. As for gag moments, honestly, Beerus was unneeded in this movie. He just continues on talking about foods, which we've already seen enough in BoG, and contributes nothing to the story. Also, he acts high and mighty all the way that it spoils Freeza's terror. Whis alone would have been completely fine this time. The battle choreography was mostly nice, but it was often too "realistic" that it's not very DB-esque. It could have been more planet-scale. The overuse of slowmo doesn't help, too.

In conclusion, this is a compilation of battle sequences with Toriyama's elements inserted between them, which is enjoyable for DB fans and those who want to enjoy hardcore actions with an empty head. But to me, this does not feel like a movie at all. It feels like an overly rich OVA.

Oh well.

I do wish Resurrection F would have been more that is was played to be, but hey it's a Dragon Ball Z movie. It's not like vying for an Oscar, BAFTA or Golden Globe for Best Animated Feature. It's a bloody Dragon Ball Z movie for crying out loud. I know what I'm getting myself into and I'm going to enjoy it, regardless. Because guess what, I'm a huge fan of Dragon Ball and I freakin love damn near everything about.

[Vegitofaxx]

Does anybody know when "F" plays in the movie?

[Lord Beerus]

Does anybody know when "F" plays in the movie?

When Freeza gets regenerated. It doesn't play in any battle scenes.

[SansrivaaL]

Does anybody know when "F" plays in the movie?

When Freeza gets regenerated. It doesn't play in any battle scenes.

U mean at the very first part he was wished back and comes out of the whatnot machine?

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Does anybody know when "F" plays in the movie?

When Freeza gets regenerated. It doesn't play in any battle scenes.

Well SaiyaJedi said there is an instrumental version of it one of the battles.

[Vegitofaxx]

I know there's no reason to use spoiler tags, but why not?

Spoiler:

Is the Kamehameha that kills Freeza the same one that DragonBoxZTheMovies uses in his avatar?

[Mystic Tien]

Dragon Ball has never had any huge, brilliant plot twists or foreshadowing or anything like that. It has always followed a pretty simple formula as does this movie. I'm not sure what any of you were expecting to be quite honest here.

Oolong asks if Goku is some kind of space alien.

Trunks is son of Bulma and Vegeta, the original timeline being destroyed by Androids, Kami and Piccolo fusing themselves being brought up on Namek,

[Doctor.]

I'm really, really disappointed. I’m disappointed because it was wasted potential and a pointless movie. The movie was marketed as being a dark film, yet there’s no serious side-effects. Freeza was marketed as having a great revenge plan and possibly living at the end of the movie, yet was treated as a training exercise for both Goku and Vegeta and died accomplishing nothing. There’s a mention of Freeza wanting to kill Future Trunks and Goku at the start of the movie, yet no Goten and Trunks in the movie. There’s a mention of Boo in the start of the movie, yet Boo doesn’t fight. There was a mention of the 12 universes in the previous movie, yet nothing was addressed here. Freeza was resurrected, yet his race and past weren’t explored more. Freeza got inexplicably stronger, yet how his training was not shown.

Thus, the movie just served for character interaction (18 and Kuririn, Jaco and everyone, Beerus and Freeza, etc), character development (for Vegeta, regression for Goku as he apparently spares Freeza in this film *sigh*) and does a really poor job at being fanservice (except for Roshi) when it apparently was supposed to be that from the start. So much wasted potential that it's unbelievable. This would have been acceptable for a Toei movie but for a Toriyama movie that's supposed to advance the storyline like BoG did prior, this is really inexcusable. Really, the only things it added was Goku and Vegeta's training with Whis and their new forms, and Freeza's golden form, that's about it.

[Barunks]

If people who actually enjoyed the yawnfest that was battle of gods hate this, then that's how I know I'll enjoy it.

[medama_oyaji]

Thank you for your thoughts, Kei! It does sound like this should please some of the BoG haters. I loved the return of comedy, but I'm still looking forward to F. Now I just have proper expectations for it.