"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Pannaliciour » Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:09 am

Xeztin wrote:
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Hellspawn28 wrote:How do you guys like Goku Black as a character so far ?
He's one of Toriyama's best characters and there's so much more he can do with him so hopefully he made the right choice and didn't kill him off at the end.
Xeztin wrote:I honestly don't know how they will kill Black off.
Killing him off would be one of if not the biggest mistake they could make.
He has to be killed off just like the other villains though right? I don't see any redemption in whoever Black is, kinda like Freeza. I think he's going to get so powerful that whatever ending they try to give him will be underwhelming to his character like with the Broly thing.
Black is not Freeza , his job is to fix a mistake that the Gods have made. He is fixing it in the name of justice (his good right/law) killing Black is like killing Beerus. Beerus also destroyed planets and people, because it was his job.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Zephyr » Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:26 am

Destroying things may be his job, but Beerus only ever seems to decide to destroy things when they personally offend him.

I wouldn't treat his motives for destruction as quite the same as Black's.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by dbgtFO » Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:37 am

Pannaliciour wrote: Black is not Freeza , his job is to fix a mistake that the Gods have made. He is fixing it in the name of justice (his good right/law) killing Black is like killing Beerus. Beerus also destroyed planets and people, because it was his job.
Beerus was appointed to the role of destroyer, whereas Black so far seems to have gone rouge, rather than just doing his job.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Majin Jator » Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:29 am

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If Vegeta could be redeemed then anyone can.
Vegeta never killed directly one of the main characters. That's the line in DB.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sintzu » Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:25 am

Majin Jator wrote:Vegeta never killed directly one of the main characters. That's the line in DB.
Nappa did and he was working for him and Vegeta even tried to after he killed Nappa.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Majin Jator » Sat Jul 16, 2016 11:17 am

sintzu wrote:
Majin Jator wrote:Vegeta never killed directly one of the main characters. That's the line in DB.
Nappa did and he was working for him and Vegeta even tried to after he killed Nappa.

That's why I said "directly". I'm not saying it makes sense, is jut how it works in Dragon Ball.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by fadeddreams5 » Sat Jul 16, 2016 11:45 am

Vegeta killed Pui Pui, the star of the show.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by nite_jay » Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:04 pm

How does killing a major character make Vegeta redeemed?

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Xeztin » Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:03 pm

sintzu wrote:
Xeztin wrote:I don't see any redemption in whoever Black is, kinda like Freeza.
If Vegeta could be redeemed then anyone can.
I meant that even id Goku offers to let him live if he becomes good, Black seems like the kind of guy to laugh at him and attack anyways.

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Post by Anime Kitten » Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:04 pm

Xeztin wrote:I meant that even if Goku offers to let him live if he becomes good, Black seems like the kind of guy to laugh at him and attack anyways.
That makes me want Black to get reformed, or better yet, Zamasu. :)
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Post by kinisking » Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:13 pm

If black stays, he better not look like Goku forever. I wouldn't like 3 characters looking like Goku staying on the show.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Anime Kitten » Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:15 pm

kinisking wrote:If black stays, he better not look like Goku forever. I wouldn't like 3 characters looking like Goku staying on the show.
Goku, Black, and... oh, yeah! Goten. I barely noticed him; he's getting so tiny and irrelevant.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Kishido » Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:22 pm

Black won't stay. Not event he slightest chance

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Anime Kitten » Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:30 pm

Kishido wrote:Black won't stay. Not event he slightest chance
I know. Way to crush someone's dreams, though. :wink:
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Alee9977 » Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:35 pm

Black will die, but I don't think present Zamasu will, and If he is Black you will have the future one killed and the present one alive.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Jul 16, 2016 2:18 pm

It's possible that they can always use the Mafuba to defeat Black.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sintzu » Sat Jul 16, 2016 2:28 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:It's possible that they can always use the Mafuba to defeat Black.
That's not a bad idea cause it would be a great call back to DB and someone would have to die in order for it to work (I think) plus it wouldn't kill black so they could use him again later down the line which I hope they do cause he's too good of a character (as of now) to be killed off this soon.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Alee9977 » Sat Jul 16, 2016 2:49 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:It's possible that they can always use the Mafuba to defeat Black.
Or maybe the Z sword if they repair it, that will be interesting.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Xeztin » Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:14 pm

Does anyone else get the feeling Vegeta will somehow end up being controlled?

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Alruneia » Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:23 pm

Xeztin wrote:Does anyone else get the feeling Vegeta will somehow end up being controlled?
Oh, I hope not. Majin Vegeta, Vegeta-Baby, Copy Vegeta... it's enough already.
I'm not against other Black characters appearing, though. Black might take on another body than his Goku-Black form. You could bring back some pretty strange choices of people with that. Raditz-Black, for example, which I'd find hilarious. It might even culminate in something like Vegito-Black or Gokhan-Black being the final villain.
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