Kinda looks like you're replying to "Buu with Gogeta absorbed vs. Whis", it's "Buu with Beerus absorbed vs. Whis". Then again maybe you're just speaking comparatively or something, I dunno.supercat wrote:
As for match #2, Whis annihilates GT's finest warrior in a matter of seconds. Effortlessly rendering Beerus unconscious with a mere chop is a major feat that I doubt anyone in GT could ever even conceive of pulling off. Gogeta's failure to incinerate Omega Shenron (around Golden Frieza-tier in my opinion) with his Big Bang Kamehameha is a good enough indicator to me that the two were not that far apart.
I was wondering if Boo's abilities and regeneration would make a difference or not.[/quote]Doctor. wrote:
Don't know the first match up. But Whis wins the second easily, unless you consider Gohan Boo, half of Beerus or close to it. Of course people might have different formulas of how absorption works, but for me is pure addition.
I think the result would be that it takes Whis longer, but he still wins pretty handily (he takes a few tries before working out how to put Buu down for good, and his reflexes are good enough to avoid being candied or whatever--since that can be dodged like anything else).
My two problems with that are:Lunatic Fringe wrote:
They'd only cancel each other out if both injuries took into effect at an equal rate, which I don't think they do for the following reason, which also ties into your "tired Freeza vs. Tired SSJ Goku being equal = Fresh Freeza vs. Fresh SSJ Goku" theory:
Playing the numbers game straight out means that this is a curbstomp in Goku's favor since 3,000,000 x 50 = 150,000,000, which wouldn't be much of an issue to beat a BP of 120,000,000. In order for them to be equal after both fighters would take damage, Goku would've had to have endured worse than Freeza.
1. I don't put much stock in those numbers (none, actually, though they're vaguely reasonable guesses I suppose), but this isn't quite as big a point as I don't have a hugely compelling reason why you can't use them, and--
2. Even if we are going by those numbers, I'm pretty sure those are given for what Goku and Freeza were at when they fought. Those numbers are all given at the time that the accompanying image indicated, so in that case during their fight, after the injuries that they'd taken. Like, if when they fought they were supposed to be lower than the numbers they gave to accompany pictures of them during that fight, I think they'd have mentioned that.
Of course, I also don't think that they were giving "weakened" numbers, but then like I said, I don't think either of them were really weakened (beyond Freeza's low stamina). I think the intention behind those numbers was that that's how strong they were, both in those forms in general and at the time.
Which doesn't account for the difference, since they were equal at full power, but then that's sort of one of the reasons (not nearly the main one) I don't put any stock in these numbers; I'm pretty sure their thought process wasn't "Oh well, they were both injured, but Goku was injured more, so let's put his max a bit higher and give numbers for levels they were never actually at in the fight we're depicting and talking about." I'm pretty sure it was "Oh, well, Goku won after a long fight so I guess he was a little bit stronger?" and they just got the finer details of the fight a bit mixed up (since it was one small part of an article covering basically all of DB up to that point, quite the undertaking).
Besides which, I really don't think Goku was as worn-out as Freeza. Before going SSJ, sure, since Freeza could still shoot energy stuff and fight and Goku could barely stand, but after he transformed Goku was A-OK, and compare the beating Freeza gave him to this:
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