Is that Frost I see on the bench? It's gotta be him, I'm sure of it. What happened there?
Also, I'm by no means a Japanese speaker, but I think Beerus yells something like "If you lose I'll destroy you!!" Is that right?
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Really? Tenshinhan and Kuririn already gone. Let's see how it goes, I guess if they went against Frost casualties are to be expected.
Doctor. wrote:
Vegeta_Sama wrote:I can already picture people complaining about the manga beign rushed
This has been a complaint since chapter 1. An accurate one, at that, given the nature of the manga's existence.
Inaccurate since the Zamasu Arc. Let's stop parroting this idea. If everyone ever read the original manga they would know the current progression is par-the-course. Expecting anime progression isn't correct.
Would people say the original manga rushed when compared to Z?
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
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Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
LightBing wrote:Really? Tenshinhan and Kuririn already gone. Let's see how it goes, I guess if they went against Frost casualties are to be expected.
Doctor. wrote:
Vegeta_Sama wrote:I can already picture people complaining about the manga beign rushed
This has been a complaint since chapter 1. An accurate one, at that, given the nature of the manga's existence.
Inaccurate since the Zamasu Arc. Let's stop parroting this idea. If everyone ever read the original manga they would know the current progression is par-the-course. Expecting anime progression isn't correct.
Would people say the original manga rushed when compared to Z?
All I want is the tournament to be a fast paced battle royale until the big end fights. No "pokemon of the week" crap the anime did for so many months.
dang,rip my dreams of 12 chapters unless toyotaro pulls a merged zamasu which tbh I expect.
Why power levels are important?
Spoiler:
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
Is that Frost I see on the bench? It's gotta be him, I'm sure of it. What happened there?
Also, I'm by no means a Japanese speaker, but I think Beerus yells something like "If you lose I'll destroy you!!" Is that right?
Translation from someone on another forum " Beerus threatens the U7 team that if they lose he'll Hakai them, to which Goku says that they'll be erased anyway if they lose. "
Vegeta_Sama wrote:I can already picture people complaining about the manga beign rushed
The anime went to slowwwwwwww but decided to rush the important fights. I'd rather the manga clear out the nobodies to get more time to focus on the main events.
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It's a 48 Minute Battle Royale which in the anime has progressed at a pace of 1 minute = 1 episode give or take in which each week someone from U6 or U7 ends up battling someone while the rest of the participants do absolutely nothing. The pace of the manga makes more sense all things considering.
I'm sure that the fights involving Hit, Kale, Caulifla, Toppo, Dyspo and Jiren won't be rushed.
OLKv3 wrote:This is proceeding like I expected. The manga will give most of it's focus to the final battles so it wraps up the ToP by time the movie comes out
Yeap , that has sense , manga chapter 43 ( December 21 ) teasing the movie , at this pace it’s posible .
Still these spoilers were a shock to me , because of that many eliminations, but it’s the way it’s , we can’t blame , manga usually runs different than anime. So each chapter being around 5 minutes has sense , tbh the 1-2 minutes pace of the anime it’s kinda ....slow motion
It was as if a whole lot of people ...were screaming in pain....
Interesting to see just how different the anime and manga have been pacing wise. The anime slowed down the tournament considerably, and the manga has been going through it rather fast. Considering the arc itself is pretty light on story, and previous tournament arcs have been the shortest in the franchise, it does make a fair amount of sense.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
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HeroR wrote:The characters in Super can work with Goku and they're treated like equals to him. Goku just being in the room doesn't take away from the character. In Z, the characters were so depended on Goku that they couldn't go an episode without mentioning him in some way even by hoping he will arrived, get better, training to get stronger, our last hope, being like him, ect. Goku was wanked to hell in Z, even when he wasn't in the room and everyone else was secondary to him. In fact, this was a major issue Goku had, which is why he didn't want to do anything in the Buu Saga.
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FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
What I'm reading is that this is actually progressing like an actual battle royal with rapid fire eliminations, and people are still complaining
So the anime takes it's time and people complain that it's dragged out far too much
The manga goes for the hectic fast pace and people are complaining that it's too rushed
Damned if you do, damned if you don't