DragonBall: Raging Blast (PS3/360)

Captain-Sora · Post by **Captain-Sora** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:36 am

DNA wrote:I really don't get what's with people and Cell absorbing someone else, he was MADE to absorb ONLY #17 and #18, it's not possible for him to absorb anyone else, in fact, after he reaches his perfect form, he cannot absorb anyone or anything else, despite what GT leads us to believe.

Vegeta didn't skip to SS4, he cheated to get it. And he COULD achieve SS3, with enough training and time.

Cell absorbing someone else is like Piririn, Kuririn and Piccolo are beings from completely different races, they are different in size, power, everything, according to the rules of dance fusion, it could never happen. Cell could not absorb anyone else according to the rules of his own creation, of his own body. Even if he absorbed #18 first and then #17 it would not make any difference. Anyone who thinks that is just grabbing at straws. The maximum you're gonna get is Super Cell, that really buffed form, because even if he transformed into something like a SS3, it would not make any physical difference.

I assume you've never played Budokai 1. It doesn't matter if it wasn't possible the series, the silly goofy ideas are called "What-Ifs" for a reason. I really hope Cell(Krillin absorbed) makes a return in a future Dimps game, he was friggin hilarious.

DNA · Post by **DNA** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:44 am

Captain-Sora wrote:I assume you've never played Budokai 1. It doesn't matter if it wasn't possible the series, the silly goofy ideas are called "What-Ifs" for a reason. I really hope Cell(Krillin absorbed) makes a return in a future Dimps game, he was friggin hilarious.

I know damned well that... abomination. I find it hardly amusing.

goku the krump dancer · Post by **goku the krump dancer** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:43 am

So are you saying that there are possible and impossible what-ifs?

B · Post by B » Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:44 am

DNA wrote:
Captain-Sora wrote:I assume you've never played Budokai 1. It doesn't matter if it wasn't possible the series, the silly goofy ideas are called "What-Ifs" for a reason. I really hope Cell(Krillin absorbed) makes a return in a future Dimps game, he was friggin hilarious.
I know damned well that... abomination. I find it hardly amusing.

Then you're a stick in the mud. Are you seriously trying to tell us you didn't like that scenario? I mean, it was just a what-if thing. I don't really have a defining opinion about it, but I didn't hate it. And if someone asked me for a definite answer, I'd probably say, "Sure, I liked it. It was fine. Go away."

I can't remember anything in that scene that would cause someone to think "No." I can't think of a reason anyone would hate it.

DNA · Post by **DNA** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:52 am

Well, yeah, I don't like it, it's retarded, I'm sorry that I have my own opinion.

And there are logical what-ifs and illogical what-ifs. Example of an illogical one: what if the sun was made of candy.

In the case of Vegeta, it's like "what if Vegeta trained enough to achieve SS3".
In the case of Cell/Kuririn it's more like "what if Cell would be able to absorb more people after he is in his perfect form and what if it affected his physical appearance the same way it affects Buu and what if that person was Kuririn".
It's just way too many what ifs bundled into one for me to swallow, and personally I didn't even find it funny.

JamieDBZFan1995 · Post by **JamieDBZFan1995** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:52 am

DNA wrote:Well, yeah, I don't like it, it's retarded, I'm sorry that I have my own opinion.

And there are logical what-ifs and illogical what-ifs. Example of an illogical one: what if the sun was made of candy.

Why would the sun be made of candy in a Dragonball game?

B · Post by B » Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:12 am

DNA wrote:Well, yeah, I don't like it, it's retarded, I'm sorry that I have my own opinion.

And I'm sorry I can't comrehend you. Your logic makes no sense as to why these are bad things.

DNA · Post by **DNA** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:20 am

B wrote:
DNA wrote:Well, yeah, I don't like it, it's retarded, I'm sorry that I have my own opinion.
And I'm sorry I can't comrehend you. Your logic makes no sense as to why these are bad things. :?

I never said they were bad, I said I don't like them and I think they are pointless. They're not bad nor good, they're pointless.

JamieDBZFan1995: You really are making an effort to not understand. I'm not going to bother with explanations any more. I would spend the rest of my day trying to explain. But I will answer your question with another one: why would Cell absorb Kuririn?

goku the krump dancer · Post by **goku the krump dancer** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:23 am

Well the sun isnt a character in Dragonball. Besides if it were made of candy that would only be because Buu wanted a giant lemon Life-Saver

. Besides at the end it was Cell waking up from a nightmare. BY you saying illogical what-ifs where would you put SSJ3 broli.

Cell absorbed Krillin by accident when he(Krillin) pushed 18 out of the way.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:28 am

DNA wrote:Vegeta didn't skip to SS4, he cheated to get it.

No he didn't.

Or, alternatively, if he did, so did Goku.

JamieDBZFan1995 · Post by **JamieDBZFan1995** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:29 am

DNA wrote:
B wrote:
DNA wrote:Well, yeah, I don't like it, it's retarded, I'm sorry that I have my own opinion.
And I'm sorry I can't comrehend you. Your logic makes no sense as to why these are bad things.
why would Cell absorb Kuririn?

You obviously are calling something you never even seen, if I remember correctly Cell didn't say "Oh hey I'm going to absorb Krillin". Krillin pushed 18 out of the way so Cell wouldn't absorb her.

Amigo Ten · Post by **Amigo Ten** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:43 am

It was a dream in the end, so it doesn't matter if it's possible. Hell, it doesn't matter if it's possible or not anyway. It's my opinion that Vegeta would never be able to achieve Super Saiyan 3 (I mean that too), but it's a what if.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 12:28 pm

Amigo Ten wrote:It's my opinion that Vegeta would never be able to achieve Super Saiyan 3 (I mean that too), but it's a what if.

If Chickenshit can go SS3, Vegeta should be able to also.

goku the krump dancer · Post by **goku the krump dancer** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 12:33 pm

If SSJ3 Vegeta is seperate I hope he has alternate costumes from the saiyan, and Cell sagas.

SparkyPantsMcGee · Post by **SparkyPantsMcGee** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:20 pm

Amigo Ten wrote:It was a dream in the end, so it doesn't matter if it's possible. Hell, it doesn't matter if it's possible or not anyway. It's my opinion that Vegeta would never be able to achieve Super Saiyan 3 (I mean that too), but it's a what if.

yea people it was a dream(a funny dream at that). My question though is if Vegeta had the power to go SSj4 then why wouldn't he be able to go 3? I mean SSj4 is stronger(duh) so his power level would have to be more than high enough to achieve SSj3(logically).

JamieDBZFan1995 · Post by **JamieDBZFan1995** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:25 pm

SparkyPantsMcGee wrote:
Amigo Ten wrote:It was a dream in the end, so it doesn't matter if it's possible. Hell, it doesn't matter if it's possible or not anyway. It's my opinion that Vegeta would never be able to achieve Super Saiyan 3 (I mean that too), but it's a what if.
yea people it was a dream(a funny dream at that). My question though is if Vegeta had the power to go SSj4 then why wouldn't he be able to go 3? I mean SSj4 is stronger(duh) so his power level would have to be high enough to achieve SSj3(logically).

Vegeta never had the power to go SSJ4 he cheated.

Hellspawn28 · Post by **Hellspawn28** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:29 pm

I can't believe people are going around saying that the SSj3 Vegeta scan is faked on the Atari forums lol. I don't see how someone would able to make a fake scan that good looking.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:31 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I can't believe people are going around saying that the SSj3 Vegeta scan is faked on the Atari forums lol. I don't see how someone would able to make a fake scan that good looking.

Yeah that's flying around the gamefaqs forums too.

SparkyPantsMcGee · Post by **SparkyPantsMcGee** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:33 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I can't believe people are going around saying that the SSj3 Vegeta scan is faked on the Atari forums lol. I don't see how someone would able to make a fake scan that good looking.

So, they believed SSj3 Broly but not Vegeta...that makes no sense!

As for the cheating thing, both Goku and Vegeta Cheated. But you can't just have the tail,you need enough power too otherwise Broly would have just turned SSj4 in the Broly movies(he still had his tail).

SSJmole · Post by **SSJmole** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:40 pm

[quote="SparkyPantsMcGee"My question though is if Vegeta had the power to go SSj4 then why wouldn't he be able to go 3? I mean SSj4 is stronger(duh) so his power level would have to be high enough to achieve SSj3(logically).

[/quote]

But SSJ requires a tail and a moon (or simulated moon waves) so as we already know they transform with moon thanks to DNA. So their DNA is effected by a full moon but non transform by the time SSJ comes around. So it's logical SSJ4 is the effects of both SSJ and Ôzaru together (it's we get a golden Ôzaru) but the two combine to make SSJ4. So my guess is even Goten should go SSJ4 if he had a tail.

SSJ 3 however literally pusshes you and drains you fast. Goku does it when it he is dead and it cut down how long he could remain. Gotenks is a fusion and even SSJ 3 there pushes him to the point of limiting the time spent on earth.

There is the problem. Vegeta in order to go SSJ 3 would have to be when he was dead. Then yes it would work. Broly would never be able to to it as SSJ 3 was achieved by training and he doesn't train he just powers up and stays that way. So when he got SSJ 3 he'd drain himself before he could even try and fight anyone.

Now like I said SSJ3 vegeta works if he's dead. However I think the most acceptable SSJ 3 would be Gogeta. Why? He fills both the dead issue and fusion issue so him doing it would make sense.

At least this is my thinking.