The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Hellspawn28]

Goku 23rd Budokai with the Power Pole. He's not allowed to fly or use Ki attacks.

Vs

Kratos with his Athena Blades and Hermes running shoes only. He is able to be killed.

I think this can go either way since Kratos can be pretty though. He can lift up giant size monsters that are big as buildings like nothing and tanked a volcanic eruption that destroyed the island of Atlantis and the Pillar of the World. Goku has speed on his side too though.

[Kamiccolo9]

Kratos flosses his teeth with Goku's spine.

[Absolute Ice]

Kratos and Hermes win. Pretty tough opponents for kid Kakarot to handle back then.

[dbzfan7]

Goku 23rd Budokai with the Power Pole. He's not allowed to fly or use Ki attacks.

Vs

Kratos with his Athena Blades and Hermes running shoes only. He is able to be killed.

Well with no moon busting ki attacks or flight to get away, Goku is probably screwed. He's much faster, but Kratos is so much stronger. One screw up and Goku is skewered. By the way Kratos has the Blades of Exile when he gets Herme's running shoes. Though I never really saw much difference between all the chain blades Kratos wore.

[Bullza]

Yeah Goku seems to be a lot faster. However Kratos appears to possibly be stronger. He threw the Colossus of Rhodes and broke free of a Titans grip even.

Goku could be tougher perhaps, he did tank Piccolo Jr's island busting attack while just a few feet away I don't know if I could see Kratos doing the same.

Goku is a master martial artist whereas Kratos is the greatest warrior. I'm not sure who would win, I think Kratos could win if he could get a good of him but I don't know if he could.

[Absolute Ice]

Indominus Rex vs kid Kakarot (Dragon Ball Minus).

[Sayo-chan]

Kid Kakarot, that's a new one.

The fight could go either way. Goten and Trunks struggled with a giant snake, so I suppose it depends on the dino's battle power.

[Absolute Ice]

Well, Indominus Rex's power level is higher than an average dinosaur. It took a Velociraptor, an elderly T-Rex and a Mosasaur to defeat it. xD It is, therefore, stronger than all dinosaurs presented in the Dragon Ball Universe.

Not to mention Indominus is capable of camuflate and come up with some strategy.

[Captain Space]

Hmm...if it was beginning-of-series Goku, that'd be easy since there's no way it'd be able to catch him, he's too fast...

But in Minus, did he already have fight training/experience and stuff and then, like, lose it when he hit his head?

Because he was what, three? I kind of get the impression a saiyan child at that age would just be...a toddler with very tough bone structure.

The fight could go either way. Goten and Trunks struggled with a giant snake, so I suppose it depends on the dino's battle power.

I really don't think that holds much water, to be honest. For that one time that happened, there have been countless times when people--usually with much lower battle power than the kids--have effortlessly trounced wild predators and the like, often much larger and more impressive ones than the snake. One random snake on Earth somehow being more powerful than the universe's elite alien soldiers would strike me as a little odd... (Not to mention a little terrifying because theoretically it could lay waste to human civilisation if it wanted if that was the case o.0)

My way of explaining it would be that the kids are suppressing their power since unlike most of the other examples of ki fighters taking on wild animals, they don't actually want to kill/eat it. (And since they are so much stronger than a lot of the other examples, it's hard to be exact so they end up shooting a little low in their efforts not to liquidate the squishy Earth creature while still throwing an actual punch. Seeing as they're children, and unlikely to be masters of those 'effortlessly sweep away weaker opponents without killing them' manoeuvres some more experienced fighters have displayed.)

...I mean, I guess the alternative explanation is just "it's a way of further padding out a segment that's already not too far from being nothing but padding/a way of adding action into episode 1 for those fans that crave that" and that as long as it fills those needs the writers for that episode don't particularly care how much sense it makes.

[Sayo-chan]

For that one time that happened, there have been countless times when people--usually with much lower battle power than the kids--have effortlessly trounced wild predators and the like, often much larger and more impressive ones than the snake.

I dunno, didn't a giant fish eat some of Freeza's best troops? Also, wouldn't similarity of predators be irrelevant seeing that two human, well half-human, kids could destroy the planet if they wanted?

[Captain Space]

For that one time that happened, there have been countless times when people--usually with much lower battle power than the kids--have effortlessly trounced wild predators and the like, often much larger and more impressive ones than the snake.

I dunno, didn't a giant fish eat some of Freeza's best troops? Also, wouldn't similarity of predators be irrelevant seeing that two human, well half-human, kids could destroy the planet if they wanted?

Ah man yeah, I forgot about the fish. Maybe just post-Buu animals absorbed bits of the Genki-dama or something XD It just still seems weird to me given that when you think about how at-ease kid Goku/Gohan were in the wild taking on the largest predators around. I dunno. Straight-up inconsistency/plothole, suckiest soldiers in the empire, or Legendary Super Fish?

Second point--yeah, but through basically magical power derived from either training methods explicitly designed to surpass normal human limits or from being descended from people who've spent their whole lives using said methods (apparently Mendel was right in Dragon Ball, I dunno).

(I mean, it doesn't hurt that their non-human halves are a race of alien super-warriors, but that's not really the point you're making since there are several humans in the series who could also blow up planets if they so chose.)

[Sayo-chan]

Legendary Super Fish?

It's quite possible this fish is a genetic mutation spawned by Dr. Gero created using Broly's cells. That would explain it.

[Captain Space]

Legendary Super Fish?

It's quite possible this fish is a genetic mutation spawned by Dr. Gero created using Broly's cells. That would explain it.

This may actually be the explanation that makes the most sense/requires the least mental gymnastics.

[Lunatic Fringe]

Shredder vs. Videl(no flight allowed)

[Sayo-chan]

Shredder vs. Videl(no flight allowed)

Which incarnation of the Shredder are we talking about?

[Lunatic Fringe]

Shredder vs. Videl(no flight allowed)

Which incarnation of the Shredder are we talking about?

We'll go with the Utrom Shredder from the '03 series.

[LightBing]

Regarding the Fish, were the soldiers caught off-guard? I remember when Goku finished Recoome, Burta and Jheese thought he only did it because the other lowered his guard.

[AvatarReiko]

Base Goten & Trunks vs 1st Form Frieza(Namek) & Vegeta(vs 1st form Frieza)

DCAU Superman vs SSJ2 Goku(Buu Saga)

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Base Goten & Trunks vs 1st Form Freeza(Namek) & Vegeta(vs 1st form Freeza)

Android #18 & Android #17 vs 1st Form Freeza(Namek) & Vegeta(vs 1st form Freeza)

The kids weren't automatically sensed when they first turned SS, meaning they're below Nappa's 4,000 (100% confirmed Diaz BP) since the latter was automatically sensed when he landed on Earth.

SS Kids < 4,000
Base Kids < 80

Vegeta solos.

[Sora Saiyan]

Base Goten & Trunks vs 1st Form Freeza(Namek) & Vegeta(vs 1st form Freeza)

DCAU Superman vs SSJ2 Goku(Buu Saga)

Goten and Trunks win easily. If this was final form Freeza vs the base kids they would get murdered though.

DCAU Supes doesn't have the firepower or durability to tussle with Goku. Goku would take it in base IMO.