The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Goku thinks he could defeat Buutenks with a fusion Metamoru with his son; Gogeta(Metamoru) = Gokhan(Metamoru).

Naw. I don't abide by that.

SS/3 Gokan > Gotenks-Boo > Ultimate Gohan >/>= SS3 Gogeta

(In my opinion).

Kakarot and Vegeta beyond Gods vs Janemba, Hirudegarn and all the Shadow Dragons.

The form that Goku fought Final Form Freeza in? I have them easily beating Janemba and Hirudegarn but losing to San/Si/Yi Xing Long. Not sure about the other Evil Dragons, though.

[Polyphase Avatron]

Here's one: Shisami vs. that alien Beerus fought in episode 2 of Super

[ahill1]

Goku thinks he could defeat Buutenks with a fusion Metamoru with his son; Gogeta(Metamoru) = Gokhan(Metamoru).

Naw. I don't abide by that.

SS/3 Gokan > Gotenks-Boo > Ultimate Gohan >/>= SS3 Gogeta

(In my opinion).

Kakarot and Vegeta beyond Gods vs Janemba, Hirudegarn and all the Shadow Dragons.

The form that Goku fought Final Form Freeza in? I have them easily beating Janemba and Hirudegarn but losing to San/Si/Yi Xing Long. Not sure about the other Evil Dragons, though.

Gogeta(Metamoru) = Gokhan(Metamoru) dude; Gohan (post Z sword) is stronger than Goku; so in a Metamoru fusion Gohan would have to suppress at the level of Goku; and a fusion between Vegeta and Goku would be the level of Goku, assuming Vegeta still has his powers Majin.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Gogeta(Metamoru) = Gokhan(Metamoru) dude; Gohan (post Z sword) is stronger than Goku; so in a Metamoru fusion Gohan would have to suppress at the level of Goku; and a fusion between Vegeta and Goku would be the level of Goku, assuming Vegeta still has his powers Majin.

What says that suppression affects the power of the final result?

[ahill1]

Gogeta(Metamoru) = Gokhan(Metamoru) dude; Gohan (post Z sword) is stronger than Goku; so in a Metamoru fusion Gohan would have to suppress at the level of Goku; and a fusion between Vegeta and Goku would be the level of Goku, assuming Vegeta still has his powers Majin.

What says that suppression affects the power of the final result?

Goku base 2
Gohan base 5
Gohan base ( suppress to do the fusion ) 2
Gokhan 4

Goku base 2
Vegeta base 2
Gogeta 4

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Goku base 2
Gohan base 5
Gohan base ( suppress to do the fusion ) 2
Gokhan 4

Goku base 2
Vegeta base 2
Gogeta 4

I'm aware the two people have to suppress to perform the technique, I'm asking where it's said that the suppressed power just vanishes as opposed to still affecting the fusion.

[ahill1]

Goku base 2
Gohan base 5
Gohan base ( suppress to do the fusion ) 2
Gokhan 4

Goku base 2
Vegeta base 2
Gogeta 4

I'm aware the two people have to suppress to perform the technique, I'm asking where it's said that the suppressed power just vanishes as opposed to still affecting the fusion.

Common sense

[voltlunok]

Goku base 2
Gohan base 5
Gohan base ( suppress to do the fusion ) 2
Gokhan 4

Goku base 2
Vegeta base 2
Gogeta 4

I'm aware the two people have to suppress to perform the technique, I'm asking where it's said that the suppressed power just vanishes as opposed to still affecting the fusion.

Common sense

What common sense? What dictates all that power just vanishes? It'd make more sense if the fusion had that suppressed power as a reserve to power up with rather then it vanishing into the void.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Common sense

You're sounding like t0sh now. Arrogantly spewing your opinion as though it was fact as opposed to using actual evidence doesn't prove anything. Metamoran Gokhan being stronger than Gogeta has a solid foundation behind it.

[Blackstripe]

Naw. I don't abide by that.

SS/3 Gokan > Gotenks-Boo > Ultimate Gohan >/>= SS3 Gogeta

(In my opinion).

Do what, now?

You have SSJ3 Gogeta below Ultimate Gohan? How? Ultimate Gohan was less than 2x SSJ3 Gotenks. Gogeta, being made from two far more powerful warriors, should be far above Gotenks as a result, enough that they're stronger than Gohan. Whether they're stronger than GotenksBuu or GohanBuu is up for debate I suppose, but I think they would still be far beyond either of them. Especially as a SSJ3.

[h0kuten]

Common sense

You're sounding like t0sh now. Arrogantly spewing your opinion as though it was fact as opposed to using actual evidence doesn't prove anything. Metamoran Gokhan being stronger than Gogeta has a solid foundation behind it.

That sounds more like you broh.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

That sounds more like you broh.

Not really. I always use actual evidence, and when I don't, I note that it's my opinion and that I'm okay if someone feels otherwise. The same can't be said for you.

Do what, now?

You have SSJ3 Gogeta below Ultimate Gohan? How? Ultimate Gohan was less than 2x SSJ3 Gotenks. Gogeta, being made from two far more powerful warriors, should be far above Gotenks as a result, enough that they're stronger than Gohan. Whether they're stronger than GotenksBuu or GohanBuu is up for debate I suppose, but I think they would still be far beyond either of them. Especially as a SSJ3.

Chapter: 503 (DBZ 309), P9.2
Context: as Goku heads to Vegeta with the Potara
Boo: “Now there’s another human with great power! But naturally he’s no match for me, even if they merged!”

Chapter: 506 (DBZ 312), P13.1
Context: still talking about how they’re no match for Boo
Goku: “…But there is one way we can win!”
Vegeta: “You want to say Fusion, right? Well who cares about that?!”

I take these two statements to mean Gogeta is somewhere between Evil Boo and Gohan-Boo. So, applying the same gap I have between the kids and adults conveniently works out for me as it puts SS3 Gogeta a lot stronger than Evil Boo, but still "no match" for Gohan-Boo.

[h0kuten]

That sounds more like you broh.

Not really. I always use actual evidence, and when I don't, I note that it's my opinion and that I'm okay if someone feels otherwise. The same can't be said for you.

Do what, now?

You have SSJ3 Gogeta below Ultimate Gohan? How? Ultimate Gohan was less than 2x SSJ3 Gotenks. Gogeta, being made from two far more powerful warriors, should be far above Gotenks as a result, enough that they're stronger than Gohan. Whether they're stronger than GotenksBuu or GohanBuu is up for debate I suppose, but I think they would still be far beyond either of them. Especially as a SSJ3.

Chapter: 503 (DBZ 309), P9.2
Context: as Goku heads to Vegeta with the Potara
Boo: “Now there’s another human with great power! But naturally he’s no match for me, even if they merged!”

Chapter: 506 (DBZ 312), P13.1
Context: still talking about how they’re no match for Boo
Goku: “…But there is one way we can win!”
Vegeta: “You want to say Fusion, right? Well who cares about that?!”

I take these two statements to mean Gogeta is somewhere between Evil Boo and Gohan-Boo. So, applying the same gap I have between the kids and adults conveniently works out for me as it puts SS3 Gogeta a lot stronger than Evil Boo, but still "no match" for Gohan-Boo.

The last response to one of my arguments that you had was 'No'.

Ya, great job.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

The last response to one of my arguments that you had was 'No'.

Ya, great job.

Because you never even brought up a specific point to refute.

"Yo Son has Goku Ssj3 superior to Gotenks Ssj3"

Am I supposed to read your mind and assume what part you're talking about? Or just point out that there is nothing indicating that Goku is superior?

[h0kuten]

The last response to one of my arguments that you had was 'No'.

Ya, great job.

Because you never even brought up a specific point to refute.

"Yo Son has Goku Ssj3 superior to Gotenks Ssj3"

Am I supposed to read your mind and assume what part you're talking about? Or just point out that there is nothing indicating that Goku is superior?

Feats.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

This is exactly what I'm talking about. You don't give any specifics and expect me to read your mind and automatically know which "feats" you're talking about. And no, Goku has no feats over Gotenks in that movie.

[h0kuten]

This is exactly what I'm talking about. You don't give any specifics and expect me to read your mind and automatically know which "feats" you're talking about. And no, Goku has no feats over Gotenks in that movie.

Feats over ride speculation or statements.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

There are no feats. And please don't bother replying if you're going to post "feats" without providing any. This is embarrassing enough as it is.

[h0kuten]

There are no feats. And please don't bother replying if you're going to post "feats" without providing any. This is embarrassing enough as it is.

Please watch the movie and you'll see Vegeta performing better than Ultimate Gohan in Battle of Gods.

& Beerus crediting Goku Ssj3 as the most fun he's had in Dragonball Super.

Now, it's time for your turn.

Please bring your evidence from Battle of Gods or Dragonball Super to debunk mine.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Please watch the movie and you'll see Vegeta performing better than Ultimate Gohan in Battle of Gods.

Faulty argument since you're assuming Beers' effort level was consistent. If this was the case, Bulma is Ultimate Gohan tier for surviving a hit from Beers.

& Beerus crediting Goku Ssj3 as the most fun he's had in Dragonball Super.

I haven't seen Super, so it'd help if you provided context for this. Is this after or before enraged Vegeta?

Now, it's time for your turn.

Please bring your evidence from Battle of Gods or Dragonball Super to debunk mine.

Nothing says the status quo from the Boo arc changed.