Dragonball Kai (FUNimation English) Dub: General Discussion

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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by DemonRin » Sat May 01, 2010 10:10 pm

So what about the big Super-Surprise? Was my source right and we don't find out about it in this volume, or was it in there somewhere?
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Post by TheMajinRedComet » Sat May 01, 2010 10:12 pm

Thanks for the info. Guys it not his fault he got it first.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by MugiMikey » Sat May 01, 2010 10:12 pm

Tanooki Kuribo wrote:No clips? No pictures? No scans? No audio samples?! Bah! You suck at getting things first! :?
Yeah, I want to hear the opening and ending in high quality...

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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Rocketman » Sat May 01, 2010 10:13 pm

The super surprise is that they edited the ending so that Vegetto never defuses.


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Also, when the hell did smelling salts become offensive. Damn.

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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Budogenkai » Sat May 01, 2010 10:16 pm

I also would love to hear some of the new Gohan and the opening song in good quality.

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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Li'l Lemmy » Sat May 01, 2010 10:18 pm

Rocketman wrote:I WANT TO BELIEVE
We all have our dreams. Yours makes sense enough. Defusing Vegetto was such a cop-out when you consider that the Potara were meant to be permanent.

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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Sat May 01, 2010 10:19 pm

What he's saying, Tanooki, is that you have failed us. You, specifically, have failed us. Miserably.

I hope you're happy.
Haha, I know, I know... :(

Well, if I get my set Monday I'm gonna make a "DragonBall Z Kai DVD\Blu-ray Vol 1 Dissection\Discussion" topic. I'll post pics, screen shots, scans and now that I got a DVD ripper (welcome to 2010) I'll post some clips and possibly the opening\closing themes.

Edit: I should mention, If someone else makes a topic to talk about this release, I'll just post my stuff in that topic. :D
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Li'l Lemmy » Sat May 01, 2010 10:21 pm

Yes, indeed. Win us back.


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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Xyex » Sat May 01, 2010 10:31 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:
gregorthegame wrote:"Oh No chichi!! Krillin get the smelling salts!"
Wasn't there a line like that in the original Ocean or FUNimation dub?

I don't get it... Weren't they trying to get rid of shit like this?
See, this is just... whining, really. No offense or anything, but, uh, who fucking cares? Seriously? Does it change anything? No. Does it really matter that it's there? No. Does it ruin the series? No. Would something like that be said in real life in a similar situation? Uh, yeah. So... what the fuck?
Blue wrote:The fact that they kept that line from the old dub because they thought it was exceptionally humorous makes me worried.
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The fact that people think it was left in because they think it was funny makes me worried.

The fact that people even care about such a line makes me even more worried.
Blue wrote:It's not the line its self it's the fact that the Funi writers said to themselves "HOLY SHIT THIS LINE IS GOLD! LET'S CARRY THIS SHIT OVER!" I worry about what else they find "funny".
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TheMajinRedComet wrote:Lets not blow a Ox King line out of proportion.
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Innagadadavida wrote:Is that even a joke? Is there anybody in their right mind who would consider "get the smelling salts" funny?
Sort of an ironic 'poking fun a the character' kind of joke. A "Chi-Chi's always fainting, so we've got this stuff laying around" type deal. At most. Otherwise, no. It's just what someone in that situation would say.

But, of course, it's not in the original and so the whiners are whining because that's what they do. :roll:
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by bkev » Sat May 01, 2010 10:36 pm

Have you always been this way or ha time here tainted you Xyex? You're blowing things just as out of proportion as they are.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by DemonRin » Sat May 01, 2010 10:37 pm

Ok, when does the line occur again?
What's happening that makes Her Feint?
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Post by Li'l Lemmy » Sat May 01, 2010 10:41 pm

C'mawn, guys. Are we really gonna let a thread get locked over the Ox King of all things? Are we REALLY?

A little civility.


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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Metalwario64 » Sat May 01, 2010 10:48 pm

I bet the smelling salts line was the "big surprise"! :lol:
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by penguintruth » Sat May 01, 2010 10:55 pm

Anyone who thinks a big deal is being made of the line itself is missing the point.

Nobody cares about the line itself. Ox-King could have said, "Quick, remove her clothing!" It's the fucking principal, that this dub is specifically geared to remove one-off add-in lines like that for the sake of accuracy, but continues to have one.

Nobody is making a big deal out of the line in itself. It's just a little weird that it's there, that's all. And now is a good time to stop talking about it altogether.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Sat May 01, 2010 10:56 pm

What are you guys talking about "big surprise"?

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Post by JulieYBM » Sat May 01, 2010 10:57 pm

Tanooki Kuribo wrote:What are you guys talking about "big surprise"?
Something we won't be told about for a while.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Metalwario64 » Sat May 01, 2010 10:59 pm

penguintruth wrote:Anyone who thinks a big deal is being made of the line itself is patently retarded.

Nobody cares about the line itself. Ox-King could have said, "Quick, remove her clothing!" It's the fucking principal, that this dub is specifically geared to remove one-off add-in lines like that for the sake of accuracy, but continues to have one.

Nobody is making a big deal out of the line in itself. It's just a little weird that it's there, that's all. And now is a good time to stop talking about it altogether.
Pretty much this. I could care less about how much sense the line makes, it's just annoying that they still feel the need to add any at all.

Oh well, at least the rest of the dialogue is accurate though, and the added lines are apparently quite rare...
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Xyex » Sat May 01, 2010 11:14 pm

bkev wrote:Have you always been this way or ha time here tainted you Xyex? You're blowing things just as out of proportion as they are.
It's just extremely annoying to see people making such a big fuss about literally nothing.
DemonRin wrote:Ok, when does the line occur again?
What's happening that makes Her Feint?
She finds out Goku's dead and that Piccolo has Gohan.
penguintruth wrote:Anyone who thinks a big deal is being made of the line itself is missing the point.

Nobody cares about the line itself. Ox-King could have said, "Quick, remove her clothing!" It's the fucking principal, that this dub is specifically geared to remove one-off add-in lines like that for the sake of accuracy, but continues to have one.

Nobody is making a big deal out of the line in itself. It's just a little weird that it's there, that's all. And now is a good time to stop talking about it altogether.
Except that no such claim was made. No one from FUNimation ever said "We're doing Kai differently than every other dub we have ever done, and including only the exact same lines as exist in the original version" what was said was that the dub would be more accurate.
Tanooki Kuribo wrote:What are you guys talking about "big surprise"?
We've been told that there's some 'big surprise' in the series, at some point, that everyone here is going to love.
Metalwario64 wrote:Pretty much this. I could care less about how much sense the line makes, it's just annoying that they still feel the need to add any at all.

Oh well, at least the rest of the dialogue is accurate though, and the added lines are apparently quite rare...
All of FUNi's dubs, even the current ones, add in a line or two here and there. Sometimes for comedy, sometimes because they just make sense in the context of the situation. And yet, no one complains about them in other dubs and other fandoms. It's just here, in Dragonball, that people start complaining and, quite frankly, whining about it. Does the line matter? No. Is it an alteration of an existing line, completely change it's meaning? No. Is it something the character in question would never actually say? No. Does the fact it wasn't part of the original dialogue matter in the slightest? No.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by penguintruth » Sat May 01, 2010 11:18 pm

I don't think you're ever going to get the point, so I'm going to stop trying to explain it.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by DemonRin » Sat May 01, 2010 11:25 pm

penguintruth wrote:I don't think you're ever going to get the point, so I'm going to stop trying to explain it.
No, I think he made a very VERY good point.

Everyone is strangely holding the DBK Dub up to a standard not even matched by the best of FUNimation's modern dubs. They've never EVER to my knowledge produced a dub that didn't throw in an occasional ad-lib here or there. One Piece is the very pinnacle of their Dubs (IMO) and it does occasionally.

Hell, going by OTHER dub company standards, lines are changed, added to and altered often. Hellsing has a dub that is often praised for how accurate it is, yet there was a scene where, in Japanese Anderson screams "ALUCARD!" at Alucard, while in English he screams "YOU BASTARD!".

It's not. A big. deal. At all.
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