The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by goku the krump dancer » Sat Sep 19, 2015 9:29 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
nickzambuto wrote:Beerus vs Odin (Marvel)
We've had this discussion at least twice in the last month.

Odin has so many ways of easily dealing with Beerus that it's not even funny. The cat's out of his league here. Raw power means nothing against a guy who can strip you of your power, rip out your soul, manipulate reality and time, will himself to be as strong and fast as he wants, or just create another guy strong enough to handle Beerus while he sits around sipping tea.

Dragon Ball doesn't have anyone who can beat high-tier magic or reality manipulators because they are so focused on who can punch harder or make the biggest laser beam. DB fighters are totally unequipped to deal with more esoteric characters from other series. They just don't have the power set for it. The weakest cosmic entity in Marvel could manhandle Whis effortlessly because of this.

Put Beerus against Thor, or the Surfer, or Thanos. Someone who can't just will him out of existence.
But Odin has been defeated before correct?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sat Sep 19, 2015 9:41 pm

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nickzambuto wrote:Beerus vs Odin (Marvel)
We've had this discussion at least twice in the last month.

Odin has so many ways of easily dealing with Beerus that it's not even funny. The cat's out of his league here. Raw power means nothing against a guy who can strip you of your power, rip out your soul, manipulate reality and time, will himself to be as strong and fast as he wants, or just create another guy strong enough to handle Beerus while he sits around sipping tea.

Dragon Ball doesn't have anyone who can beat high-tier magic or reality manipulators because they are so focused on who can punch harder or make the biggest laser beam. DB fighters are totally unequipped to deal with more esoteric characters from other series. They just don't have the power set for it. The weakest cosmic entity in Marvel could manhandle Whis effortlessly because of this.

Put Beerus against Thor, or the Surfer, or Thanos. Someone who can't just will him out of existence.
But Odin has been defeated before correct?
Yeah, by people who are on or above his level, or who steal his power. Not by getting punched in the face.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Noah » Sat Sep 19, 2015 9:47 pm

voltlunok wrote:
Noah wrote:Super Saiyan Goku (Namek) V.S:

- Oozaru Tullece
- Giant Form Slug
- Mecha Freeza (Unseen 100%)
- King Cold
- Coola (First appearance)
- Android 13
- Android 14
- Android 15
- Android 19
- Dr. Gero
Goku loses, that's too much combined might and I think he'd only have a power advantage over Tullece, Slug, and Cold. That still leaves the Cold brothers and android army which would most likely overwhelm him and drain him of his ki.


Oh, sorry! I was not specific, I mean one by one Goku vs Tullece (he would win easily or not) then Goku vs Slug and etc.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by goku the krump dancer » Sat Sep 19, 2015 10:44 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
GokuTheKrumpDancer wrote:But Odin has been defeated before correct?
Yeah, by people who are on or above his level, or who steal his power. Not by getting punched in the face.
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Makes sense I guess, though Beerus has been stated to be capable of magic tricks but we just don't know to what extent. Depends on how you gauge sealing gods inside swords.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by voltlunok » Sat Sep 19, 2015 10:47 pm

Noah wrote:
voltlunok wrote:
Noah wrote:Super Saiyan Goku (Namek) V.S:

- Oozaru Tullece
- Giant Form Slug
- Mecha Freeza (Unseen 100%)
- King Cold
- Coola (First appearance)
- Android 13
- Android 14
- Android 15
- Android 19
- Dr. Gero
Goku loses, that's too much combined might and I think he'd only have a power advantage over Tullece, Slug, and Cold. That still leaves the Cold brothers and android army which would most likely overwhelm him and drain him of his ki.


Oh, sorry! I was not specific, I mean one by one Goku vs Tullece (he would win easily or not) then Goku vs Slug and etc.
Ah ok. I think he'd get through those he has a power advantage over. Mecha Freeza 100% I don't know now that I think on it...I don't think his cyborg enhancements would grant him a big enough boost to overcome what happened on Namek. Cooler...I'd still say he'd beat Namek Goku. Goku would lose to Gero and 19 because he wouldn't see the ki drain coming till it's too late. I don't remember if 13 through 15 had ki drain...it's been a while since I saw that movie.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Angelus » Sun Sep 20, 2015 12:17 am

Full Power Perfect Cell VS SSJ Future Trunks (Androids Saga;pre-ROSAT) with permanent Kaiokenx10 (that has no negative effects or strain on the body)

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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Sun Sep 20, 2015 12:31 am

Angelus wrote:Full Power Perfect Cell VS SSJ Future Trunks (Androids Saga;pre-ROSAT) with permanent Kaiokenx10 (that has no negative effects or strain on the body)
Anyone one from the Cell Games (asides from the humans) would slaughter this Trunks. Even Piccolo.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Sep 20, 2015 12:44 am

Angelus wrote:Full Power Perfect Cell VS SSJ Future Trunks (Androids Saga;pre-ROSAT) with permanent Kaiokenx10 (that has no negative effects or strain on the body)
Trunks still loses horribly.

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Post by singsing » Sun Sep 20, 2015 12:46 am

nickzambuto wrote:Beerus vs Odin (Marvel)
Man what did Beerus ever do to you? Unless Beerus actually becomes universal next week, he's probably around herald, maybe transcendent tier at best. Odin is a top of the line skyfather who'd reality warp him out of existence.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Sep 20, 2015 3:35 am

Odin is a casual galaxy buster, he is above anyone in the DB series at the moment. Even other skyfather level begins such as Surtur wipe out a galaxy when looking for the Twilight Sword.
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Post by Khin » Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:55 am

60% Whis vs. Beerus,Whis has the disadvantage in power,but do you think his skills and abilities can edge this out?

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Post by Captain Space » Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:14 am

Noah wrote:Super Saiyan Goku (Namek) V.S (one by one):

- Oozaru Tullece
- Giant Form Slug
- Mecha Freeza (Unseen 100%)
- King Cold
- Coola (First appearance)
- Android 13
- Android 14
- Android 15
- Android 19
- Dr. Gero
He trashes the first two (they're way too slow to touch him), just barely edges out a win against Freeza, beats King Cold (who must've been at least a little weaker than pre-mecha Freeza), Cooler...I think his power comparison to Freeza is a dub-only line? I dunno, the point of the movie could be 'an opponent even stronger than Freeza, but look how strong Goku is now!' in which case Cooler wins, or it could be 'look how strong Super Saiyan is, no enemy can stand against it!' in which case Goku wins.

Just rewatched the fight, and 13-15 give android-arc SSJs much more trouble than I remember. Goku loses.

19 and 20...uh...depends on absorption. If Goku hadn't been sick fighting 19, maybe he'd have been able to pull a Vegeta and all but no-sell everything including the energy drain. So I guess Goku wins against them?
voltlunok wrote:I don't remember if 13 through 15 had ki drain...it's been a while since I saw that movie.
They don't (but I'm pretty sure they're too strong for him here anyway).
SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:60% Whis vs. Beerus,Whis has the disadvantage in power,but do you think his skills and abilities can edge this out?
I'd give it to Whis 60/40, especially when you take into account he has a second try at it if he messes up the first (let's do the timewarp agaaaaain).
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Post by Khin » Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:17 am

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:New Matches:

1: Majin Vegeta and SSJ2 Goku vs. Movie 10 LSSJ Broly and Super Perfect Cell

2: Kamiccolo vs. SSJ Vegeta,SSJ Goku and SSJ Mirai Trunks(All in Android Saga)

3: Piccolo(Saiyan Saga) and Gohan(Saiyan Saga) vs. Tenshinhan,Kuririn,Yamcha,Chaozu and Yajirobe(All in Saiyan Saga,No Kienzan or Kikoho)

4: Goku(Saiyan Saga)with Kaioken(Cant go x3 and beyond) vs. Kewi

5: ASSJ Mirai Trunks(3 years after the Cell Games) vs. SSJ Trunks(Pre ROSAT)

6: Majin Vegeta,SSJ2 Goku and SSJ2 Teen Gohan(Pre Z Sword) vs. Grey Buu

7: MSSJ Goku(Cell Games) vs. 70% MSSJ Kid Gohan(Cell Games)

8: Elder Kaioshin vs. Kame-sennin

9: 5,000 Pure Boo(No Candy Beam or Absorption) vs. Whis

10: SSJ2 Goku and SSJ2 Vegeta vs. Good Boo

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Post by Darkprince410 » Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:51 am

Blackstripe wrote: Ranfan's punch was so fast it ignited the air around it. She's not weaker than Mr. Satan.
Ummm, no it didn't. These are her only two punches, and neither of them are "igniting the air" around her.

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Post by Absolute Ice » Sun Sep 20, 2015 2:49 pm

Captain Jack Sparrow vs General Blue.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sun Sep 20, 2015 2:50 pm

Absolute Ice wrote:Captain Jack Sparrow vs General Blue.
Jack gets Blue so flustered up that Blue passes out due to nosebleeds.
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Post by LightBing » Sun Sep 20, 2015 3:00 pm

Kuririn (22nd TB) vs Earth's Army (The one that attacked Cell before the CG)

Kuririn and Yamcha (22nd TB) vs Jackie Chun (22nd TB)

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Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:21 pm

LightBing wrote:Kuririn (22nd TB) vs Earth's Army (The one that attacked Cell before the CG)

Kuririn and Yamcha (22nd TB) vs Jackie Chun (22nd TB)
- Earth's Army gets wiped out
- Jackie Chun wins with mild effort

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Post by Lunatic Fringe » Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:59 pm

• Imperfect Cell(pre-600,000 humans power-up)vs. Final Form Cooler
• Sauzer & Neiz vs. Ginyu Saga Goku w/Kaioken
• Cyborg Tao & Roshi vs. Old Piccolo Daimao

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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:01 pm

Lunatic Fringe wrote:• Cyborg Tao & Roshi vs. Old Piccolo Daimao
Roshi is completely worthless here. Taopaipai wins because of power advantage + Super Dodonpa.

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