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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

Post by EXBadguy » Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:23 pm

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JulieYBM wrote:That reminds me, did we get any blood this time?
Nope. Sorbet's surprise beam penetrates Goku's body, but the hole was not there like how they censored the Makankosappo scene in Kai.
And I thought that the US has the worst censorship ever.
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Post by Drayenko » Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:24 pm

Valerius Dover wrote:Why is everyone getting so worked up about the lack of blood? A lot of scenes in Dragon Ball had cases of bloodless carnage. This can't be as bad as when General Blue's soldiers are all impaled by traps without so much as a red spot. Dragon Ball isn't supposed to be dark and edgy. It's an adventure storyline with plenty of action that at times veers into dark territory. Either way, I don't see how blood makes a difference.
You can't compare the tone shift.

I don't really understand the deal with blood. Some people want blood and there's absolutely nothing wrong with it. We all bleed, we all have blood in our bodies. I don't understand why some people feel that blood is ANTI-DB and if you want blood you are a sick bastard.

Seriously, what the hell.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:29 pm

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JulieYBM wrote:Good grief on a pogo stick, that is awful. I hate that we're stuck with this nonsensical pandering.
If you think that's bad then you should look at western cartoons,if something isn't aimed at brain dead kids then it doesn't get green lit.
I dunno about that. However if a western cartoon isn't aimed at brain dead kids, it probably after 2 seasons for some other shit. Which is why shows like Teen Titans Go, Sonic Boom, and Annoying Orange somehow live on.
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Post by Ajay » Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:31 pm

Valerius Dover wrote:Either way, I don't see how blood makes a difference.
It doesn't, really. I think some people are disappointed that a movie this 'dark' doesn't feature the level of violence we got back in the day. I mean, Vegeta was gargling and spitting blood in the Freeza arc! That said, it's silly to even expect it at this point. It's a different era where acceptable levels of violence in children's TV shows have changed. It's a shame, but it's a bit unreasonable to expect anything different.

I guess it boils down to whether you really think a lack of blood significantly lessens the impact of what's happening on screen. I'd say blood can help, but solid animation is perfectly capable of achieving the same impact, too. Nothing to be that upset about!
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Post by Big Momma » Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:31 pm

^I'm with Ajay on this.
Drayenko wrote: You can't compare the tone shift.

The tone shift isn't nearly as drastic as a lot of you are making it out to be. The series had plenty of violence and death Pre-Z.
I don't really understand the deal with blood. Some people want blood and there's absolutely nothing wrong with it. We all bleed, we all have blood in our bodies. I don't understand why some people feel that blood is ANTI-DB and if you want blood you are a sick bastard.

Seriously, what the hell.
I don't understand why some people are so flustered over it not being in there (Especially with those "It's more realistic" types of arguments). Personally, I would like a little bit of blood if Goku is getting a beam through his chest...or at the very least not just black spot. But, hey, it is what it is. I'm not gonna lose sleep over it.

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Post by Drayenko » Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:33 pm

AjayLikesGaming wrote: It doesn't, really. I think some people are disappointed that a movie this 'dark' doesn't feature the level of violence we got back in the day. I mean, Vegeta was gargling and spitting blood in the Freeza arc! That said, it's silly to even expect it at this point. It's a different era where acceptable levels of violence in children's TV shows have changed.
That's the thing. Are kids more ignorant nowadays? They don't know what blood is? This is ridiculous, when every show on TV has sex and drugs, blood suddenly is a taboo. Nonsense.

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Post by JulieYBM » Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:34 pm

The One Piece TV series gets to have blood. I think this was just done to make the film 'international friendly'.
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Post by Doctor. » Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:34 pm

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Doctor. wrote:I know that Dragon Ball doesn't need to be gory to be good, but... it's a fucking beam through the chest. If you don't want to show blood then don't even put scenes that brutal in the movie, because it's almost obligatory to have at least a bit blood in order for it to not look stupid.
What do you expect? It's movie a movie made for childrens and childrens only, TOEI/Toriyama don't seem to care about the older fans
So...? Are you telling me that in all of the Dragon Ball manga or the Dragon Ball adaptations, nobody has ever bled? No. Just a few years ago we got Episode of Bardock where Bardock snapped someone's neck and they can't spare a little blood? It makes the scene more childish.

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Post by EXBadguy » Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:34 pm

Big Momma wrote: The tone shift isn't nearly as drastic as a lot of you are making it out to be. The series had plenty of violence and death Pre-Z.
Yeah, only the last two or three sagas were.
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Post by Drayenko » Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:35 pm

Big Momma wrote: The tone shift isn't nearly as drastic as a lot of you are making it out to be. The series had plenty of violence and death Pre-Z.

I don't understand why some people are so flustered over it not being in there (Especially with those "It's more realistic" types of arguments). Personally, I would like a little bit of blood if Goku is getting a beam through his chest...or at the very least not just black spot. But, hey, it is what it is. I'm not gonna lose sleep over it.

I'm not gonna lose sleep either, but there's nothing wrong with wanting blood.

The General Blue incident is a gag scene. We can't compare that to a villain trying to kill Goku and blasting a hole through his chest.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:36 pm

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I think TTG can be pretty funny...
Right? I am tired of that show getting so much hate.

Anyway back on topic, I am not fussed about the lack of blood if the fight scenes are still intense then it really does not matter (to me at least).

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Post by Ajay » Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:39 pm

JulieYBM wrote:The One Piece TV series gets to have blood. I think this was just done to make the film 'international friendly'.
Ah, I wasn't aware of that. I'm not a big One Piece fan. I guess that does change things quite a bit, then. I wonder why Kai features toned down blood if the show that follows it is left unchanged. I can't imagine it's entirely to do with international reasons. Thanks for the info, anyhow. Very strange!
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Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:40 pm

EXBadguy wrote:
kei17 wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:That reminds me, did we get any blood this time?
Nope. Sorbet's surprise beam penetrates Goku's body, but the hole was not there like how they censored the Makankosappo scene in Kai.
And I thought that the US has the worst censorship ever.
It still does. Even animated shows like Regular Show have been censored to hell. Even shows like Animaniacs and Ren and Stimpy during the 90s, a period at which western animated shows could get away with a lot shit, had to deal with a bit censorship.
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Post by EXBadguy » Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:42 pm

Japanese network in a nutshell.

Jumping on someone's leg, breaking it= Okay
Punching in holes= Okay
Sexual groping= Okay
Blood= "OOOH HERR NOOH! TE END OF TE WORRD! TE CHIRDREN CANNOT SHEE THIZH!!"

Lord Beerus wrote: It still does. Even animated shows like Regular Show have censored to hell. Even show like Animaniacs and Ren and Stimpy during the 90s, a period at which western animated show could get away with a lot shit, had to deal with a bit censorship.
You're right, it does, but now I'm placing the JPN as a tie with the US.
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Post by Beerus-sama » Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:48 pm

JulieYBM wrote: I think this was just done to make the film 'international friendly'.
this make sense.
either way, I'm not dissapointed for the lack of blood, it expected it with how Kai edited blood.
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Post by Sandubadear » Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:50 pm

Is there any news?
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Post by EA575 » Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:54 pm

Sandubadear wrote:Is there any news?
There will be. Soon.

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Post by TRL » Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:56 pm

So are all you guys in on the blue hair april fools joke or just buying it?

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Post by Doctor. » Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:57 pm

TRL wrote:So are all you guys in on the blue hair april fools joke or just buying it?
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Post by Chuquita » Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:58 pm

Re: blue hair

Pretty sure that's real. I couldn't photoshop it away from the photo.

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