Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[KaiserNeko]

When it comes to blood, I think the censorship on the part of Japan as of the last 15-20 years has been disappointing. Something I really appreciated about older shounen material was how maturely and frank it treated certain subject matter. It's really just frustrating to see them become more squeamish over time.

[Lord Beerus]

No. No it's not. Older fans will still watch the movie and won't condemn it for that one scene in particular. And believe me, western cartoon shows and movie have it much worse. But some of those shows are still able to attract an older audience.

I didn't said people couldn't watch the movie because of that scene, just that the lack of blood it is because in a movie where the focus is to please children, they feel that would be bad to add blood scenes.

What? If that the case then the majority of comic book movies have been focused to please children and that is not the case.

Is Dare Devil aimed to please children?
Is Man Of Steel aimed to please children?
Is Batman Begin, The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises aimed to please children?
Is Guardians Of The Galaxy aimed to please children?
Is Iron Man aimed to please children?

[coola]

i don't want speak for Mike, but, after that playable Pilaf in Final Bout, and having to tell it was a joke for so long, i doubt he would make another April Fools joke

[Black_Liger]

When it comes to blood, I think the censorship on the part of Japan as of the last 15-20 years has been disappointing. Something I really appreciated about older shounen material was how maturely and frank it treated certain subject matter. It's really just frustrating to see them become more squeamish over time.

That is certaintly not a problem with Hunter X Hunter, it started quite lighthearted, but up until the chimera ant arc it's maybe as dark as you can get, with children getting killed onscreen, monsters eating human flesh straight from the corpse they just killed, an old guy that uses his position to get girls as personal prostitutes. It's a shonen alright, what grinds my gears as that even one piece and naruto get blood. Why can't DB be atleast as violent as it was during Namek saga?. Yes it's a children show, but all these other shonens are too, it's almost ridiculous to have a Freeza movie and not have any blood... That said, it's toei's fault, as I always say, who's the damn monkey that oversees the dragon ball material at toei??.

[Noah]

What? If that the case then the majority of comic book movies have been focused to please children and that is not the case.

Is Dare Devil aimed to please children?
Is Man Of Steel aimed to please children?
Is Batman Begin, The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises aimed to please children?
Is Guardians Of The Galaxy aimed to please children?
Is Iron Man aimed to please children?

I'm talking about cartoons and anime that contains blood scenes, but the movies you cited are generally aimed to please childrens and young adults.

Another thing is that is also a decision made by the authors on the inclusion or not of blood scenes, some may find it necessary others not and so on

[Big Momma]

i don't want speak for Mike, but, after that playable Pilaf in Final Bout, and having to tell it was a joke for so long, i doubt he would make another April Fools joke

He's done a few since then.


EDIT: I don't even think he's responsible for that one, anyway.

[TripleRach]

Well, this discussion about blood is getting pretty off-topic. It would fit better in another thread about gore and censorship and whatnot. I know this thread is not too old and had similar discussions, but a new thread wouldn't be the worst idea either.

[coola]

i don't want speak for Mike, but, after that playable Pilaf in Final Bout, and having to tell it was a joke for so long, i doubt he would make another April Fools joke

He's done a few since then.


EDIT: I don't even think he's responsible for that one, anyway.

He did? Sorry then, my bad

[GokuRules987]

I dont believe in censorship.

Any forms of censorship is unacceptable because all it does is creates unjustifiable suppression of truth and ideas.
And we all know that its been a controversy with DBZ in US which had quite some unnecessary censorship put in it.

I think Toonzai also edited Blue Mr.Popo and that shit hurt the eyes cause it had too much saturation.

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Funimation Productions Inc., says the show is toned down for US sensibilities—blood is often edited out and frames are erased to soften the blows in certain battle scenes.

Source: "Kids are glued to a Japanese Cartoon show" Sally Beatty , Wall Street Journal

[White Oni]

I dont believe in censorship.

Any forms of censorship is unacceptable because all it does is creates unjustifiable suppression of truth and ideas.
And we all know that its been a controversy with DBZ in US which had quite some unnecessary censorship put in it.

I think Toonzai also edited Blue Mr.Popo and that shit hurt the eyes cause it had too much saturation.

Quote
Funimation Productions Inc., says the show is toned down for US sensibilities—blood is often edited out and frames are erased to soften the blows in certain battle scenes.

Source: "Kids are glued to a Japanese Cartoon show" Sally Beatty , Wall Street Journal

I'm pretty sure you don't walk outside naked and curse out your boss every time you feel like it or think it would "best express the truth."

[Noah]

I have a off-thread question... If I made a In-Universe thread about sexual relationship between some characters of the franchise in neither vulgar or offesive way it would be against the rules?

[Polyphase Avatron]

I dont believe in censorship.

Any forms of censorship is unacceptable because all it does is creates unjustifiable suppression of truth and ideas.
And we all know that its been a controversy with DBZ in US which had quite some unnecessary censorship put in it.

I think Toonzai also edited Blue Mr.Popo and that shit hurt the eyes cause it had too much saturation.

Quote
Funimation Productions Inc., says the show is toned down for US sensibilities—blood is often edited out and frames are erased to soften the blows in certain battle scenes.

Source: "Kids are glued to a Japanese Cartoon show" Sally Beatty , Wall Street Journal

I'm pretty sure you don't walk outside naked and curse out your boss every time you feel like it or think it would "best express the truth."

Or shout fire in a crowded theater when there's no fire.

[Mystic Tien]

The One Piece TV series gets to have blood. I think this was just done to make the film 'international friendly'.

Recent Saint Seiya Omega had it as well, I wonder why they got rid of it in FnF.

So are all you guys in on the blue hair april fools joke or just buying it?

Kei confirmed it. It is true.

But what if this is all an elaborate ruse and kei and the kanzenshuu staff are all in on it too?

Doubt it, why both Kei and SaiyaJedi would lie to us?

But what if this is all an elaborate ruse and kei and the kanzenshuu staff are all in on it too?

This was stated a few days ago first with the picture of the mini figures and yesterday (If I'm not wrong, I think he stated it way before, but just confirmed it being like the color of some fanart yesterday...) by Kei, so its legit.

sorry I'm so bad at remembering days

Figures still may be fake though.

[Hellspawn28]

The One Piece TV series gets to have blood. I think this was just done to make the film 'international friendly'.

If they got rid of the blood in order to get a PG rating in the US then that's bullshit if you ask me. PG rated kids movies can get away with death and blood before Watership Down and Secret of NIMH. Both even Fusion Reborn and Battle of Gods got away with a PG rating from the MPPA with no editing from what I can remember.

[Mystic Tien]

It's possible. Who knows.

April Fools is so annoying when you're waiting on legit info updates. It's like why even bother looking for news that day at all.

I just want it to be the 2nd already so I won't have to think about "is it a trick or not?".

I agree. I got like about two major spoilers about One Piece today, and I wonder if they are legit or not

Hope that even if it is an April Joke, it would be quite obvious that it is. Unlike with One Piece spoilers.

[VegettoEX]

We already did our April Fools gag. The summary is not part of it. Aiming for posting the condensed, main movie guide page version this evening.

The super long one with more dialog and minutia/details will come after Julian sees it one more time.

Our gags are obvious. We don't aim to fool. If you can't tell, well...

[FortuneSSJ]

Lack of blood bothers me and I think censorship is stupid.
Things are meant to be seen like they are.

That Sorbet scene seems pathetic, like that. Just like when Golden Freeza stomps Goku in the trailer, he should cough more blood.
I'm not asking for Blood fest, just for the the old times.

One Piece anime has blood, I don't see why a DBZ movie can't have.
Toriko manga fans got really pissed about the anime they got too. Seems like its full of censorship.

Kai is pathetic, just like the DBZ recap in BOG was.

Dragon Ball is for everyone: the new fans and old fans. They shouldn't forget about the latter, without us, there wasn't anything anymore.

[Lord Beerus]

Dragon Ball is for everyone: the new fans and old fans. They shouldn't forget about the latter, without us, there wasn't anything anymore.

It if isn't for the new fans, then Dragon Ball wouldn't continue to be as relevant as it is. Don't act as if you are a superior to new fans of Dragon Ball just because you have been a fan for longer than they have. They will always be people who haven't heard to Dragon Ball and then became invested into it and become "new" fans of the franchise. They shouldn't be treated as the scapegoat for Dragon Ball being censored at times.

[sintzu]

Lack of blood bothers me and I think censorship is stupid,Dragon Ball is for everyone.

Being for everyone is the problem.

It's a worldwide franchise with America being arguably it's biggest market and in America EVERYTHING that isn't made for brain dead kids will get complaints from parents,the media,PC people on media sites,government officials,ect.

And I'm sure other countries are similar so Toie probably doesn't want to deal with them.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

The One Piece TV series gets to have blood. I think this was just done to make the film 'international friendly'.

Not always though. We see bloody episodes, but we also see episodes where they are to shy to show a fake decapitated human, even though it's clearly shown in the previous episode, where he was supposed to be real...