The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[ZombieVito]

East Kaioshin vs. Initial Perfect Cell

Kaioshin one shots.

Pre-God SSJ1 Goku vs Perfect Cell.

Cell is still a bit stronger. He wins by regeneration hax.

[nickzambuto]

Beerus runs a quick Marvel comics gauntlet.

• 1. Thor
  2. Odin
  3. Galactus
  4. Captain America w/ 'Murica force
  5. Reed Richards and the F4 have one day to figure out a way to stop Beerus from destroying the Earth (in this scenario Beerus REALLY wants to destroy Earth)

[Kamiccolo9]

Beerus runs a quick Marvel comics gauntlet.

• 1. Thor
  2. Odin
  3. Galactus
  4. Captain America w/ 'Murica force
  5. Reed Richards and the F4 have one day to figure out a way to stop Beerus from destroying the Earth (in this scenario Beerus REALLY wants to destroy Earth)

Beerus beats Thor, unless he's stupid enough to let Thor use some of Mjolnir's more esoteric abilities on him. He loses against everything else, barring Cap. Beerus can maybe, maybe, put out more destructive power than Odin, but none of that matters when the Odinforce is involved. Galactus would just eat him like he did Hyperstorm, and with a day to prepare, Richards can just get the Ultimate Nullifier, assuming he doesn't already have it, and wipe Beerus from existence.

[LightBing]

Goku hypothetical suicide attack vs Perfect Cell - In the molds of Vegeta sacrifice, so no danger of destroying the planet.

Kami (23rd TB) vs Kuririn, Tenshinhan and Yamcha (23rd TB)

Piccolo + Tenshinhan Potara with kaioken x20(Boo Arc) vs Pure Boo

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Piccolo(android arc pre kami) vs Goku SSJ(post yardrat)

0%/100% - Piccolo has no chance whatsoever. Maybe Goku let's him punch enough times to cause a light rash.

Just curious, do you believe Sick SS Goku (the one that fought initial #19) is weaker than post-Yardrat SS Goku?

[LightBing]

Piccolo(android arc pre kami) vs Goku SSJ(post yardrat)

0%/100% - Piccolo has no chance whatsoever. Maybe Goku let's him punch enough times to cause a light rash.

Just curious, do you believe Sick SS Goku (the one that fought initial #19) is weaker than post-Yardrat SS Goku?

He eventually goes down to that level while the fight progresses. Note that I think post-Yardrat SSJ Goku, is barely stronger than Namek SSJ Goku.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

He eventually goes down to that level while the fight progresses. Note that I think post-Yardrat SSJ Goku, is barely stronger than Namek SSJ Goku.

So, you don't believe that Piccolo is stronger than Sick Goku (the one who initially fought #19)?

[Kamiccolo9]

Goku at his strongest we've seen so far (whether you think it's RF, Super, GT, Online, or whatever) vs The Doctor.

Goku gives the Doctor 30 seconds to prepare, and the Doctor has access to any device and ability he's been shown to possess since he first appeared back in the 60's, assuming he can acquire and activate it within the time frame Goku gives him.

Let's assume that neither character has a reason to hold back, aside from that initial 30 seconds.

[LightBing]

He eventually goes down to that level while the fight progresses. Note that I think post-Yardrat SSJ Goku, is barely stronger than Namek SSJ Goku.

So, you don't believe that Piccolo is stronger than Sick Goku (the one who initially fought #19)?

I believe he was stronger. SSJ Goku(Yardrat) > Piccolo > Sick SSJ Goku. Goku was making an extraneous effort to maintain Super Saiyan, I don't want to restrict Goku's power to a static level. since he was losing it constantly during the fight. But during the bulk of the fight, he was weaker than SSJ Goku (Yardrat) and most likely Piccolo. Still more than enough to trounce Android #19.

[ZombieVito]

Goku hypothetical suicide attack vs Perfect Cell - In the molds of Vegeta sacrifice, so no danger of destroying the planet.

Kami (23rd TB) vs Kuririn, Tenshinhan and Yamcha (23rd TB)

Piccolo + Tenshinhan Potara with kaioken x20(Boo Arc) vs Pure Boo

Goku takes this.
Kami one shots them all.
Boo losses badly.

[Battousai]

Goku hypothetical suicide attack vs Perfect Cell - In the molds of Vegeta sacrifice, so no danger of destroying the planet.

Kami (23rd TB) vs Kuririn, Tenshinhan and Yamcha (23rd TB)

Piccolo + Tenshinhan Potara with kaioken x20(Boo Arc) vs Pure Boo

Goku wins.

Kami wins with low difficulty.

Piccolohan stomps.

[Captain Space]

Just like my thoughts, but would you say that Super 13 would put a good fight against 16 or Imp. Cell even being weaker?

I don't think so; he really didn't have anything going for him other than power (unlike Cell who could regenerate, absorb stuff, strategise at least in his first form, and had a whole bunch of stolen techniques).

4. Captain America w/ 'Murica force

Is this a real thing?

Goku at his strongest we've seen so far (whether you think it's RF, Super, GT, Online, or whatever) vs The Doctor.

Goku gives the Doctor 30 seconds to prepare, and the Doctor has access to any device and ability he's been shown to possess since he first appeared back in the 60's, assuming he can acquire and activate it within the time frame Goku gives him.

Let's assume that neither character has a reason to hold back, aside from that initial 30 seconds.

Ways the Doctor can win:

-Puts on a Vortex Manipulator, a device he's possessed on multiple occasions, and vanishes. Goku wonders what happened until he blinks out of existence because the Doctor went back in time to planet Vegeta and killed/moved/reformed/whatever him as a baby (or just sabotaged his pod so it never got off planet Vegeta in time).

-Same as the above, but with the TARDIS, if he hurries getting it running in 30 seconds should be perfectly possible.

-Grabs some laser thing he has lying around and carves open the TARDIS console, absorbs the Heart of the TARDIS like in the finale of the first 21st century season, makes Goku asplode with his mind.

-Using either TARDIS or Vortex Manipulator, goes back in time several months to spend time spreading his message and smooth-talking everyone into sending the right mental impulses at the right time, in the present uses that mental-net thing he used against the Master when he took over Earth (I forget its name, sorry), makes Goku asplode with his mind.

-He once possessed the device that ended the Time War! If this is used, Goku ends up either deader than dead or trapped in a frozen moment in time inside a painting or something.

[LightBing]

Kuririn vs Yamcha vs Vegeta. Who would be the first to become a millionaire? (Boo Arc, so that Vegeta has some knowledge of Earth's society)

Rules: No crime, no Tenkaichi Budokai. They all start their quest at Master Roshi island. They have nothing and can't be helped by anyone they know.

[ekrolo2]

Krillin because he gets paid a lot to get pee'd on.

[nickzambuto]

Kuririn vs Yamcha vs Vegeta. Who would be the first to become a millionaire? (Boo Arc, so that Vegeta has some knowledge of Earth's society)

Rules: No crime, no Tenkaichi Budokai. They all start their quest at Master Roshi island. They have nothing and can't be helped by anyone they know.

Yamcha goes back to his baseball career.

[nickzambuto]

Beerus runs a quick Marvel comics gauntlet.

• 1. Thor
  2. Odin
  3. Galactus
  4. Captain America w/ 'Murica force
  5. Reed Richards and the F4 have one day to figure out a way to stop Beerus from destroying the Earth (in this scenario Beerus REALLY wants to destroy Earth)

Beerus beats Thor, unless he's stupid enough to let Thor use some of Mjolnir's more esoteric abilities on him. He loses against everything else, barring Cap. Beerus can maybe, maybe, put out more destructive power than Odin, but none of that matters when the Odinforce is involved. Galactus would just eat him like he did Hyperstorm, and with a day to prepare, Richards can just get the Ultimate Nullifier, assuming he doesn't already have it, and wipe Beerus from existence.

Why exactly is the Odinforce an advantage in of itself?

[Kamiccolo9]

Beerus runs a quick Marvel comics gauntlet.

• 1. Thor
  2. Odin
  3. Galactus
  4. Captain America w/ 'Murica force
  5. Reed Richards and the F4 have one day to figure out a way to stop Beerus from destroying the Earth (in this scenario Beerus REALLY wants to destroy Earth)

Beerus beats Thor, unless he's stupid enough to let Thor use some of Mjolnir's more esoteric abilities on him. He loses against everything else, barring Cap. Beerus can maybe, maybe, put out more destructive power than Odin, but none of that matters when the Odinforce is involved. Galactus would just eat him like he did Hyperstorm, and with a day to prepare, Richards can just get the Ultimate Nullifier, assuming he doesn't already have it, and wipe Beerus from existence.

Why exactly is the Odinforce an advantage in of itself?

Because it provides its wielder with a thousand different ways to defeat a conventional fighter, which Beers is. When B eerus can be shown to resist time control or reality manipulation or having his soul ripped out or being teleported into another universe or matter manipulation or essentially any other power Odin wants. Not to mention that Odin has demonstrated the exact same feat that B eerus did, except on a multiversal level. What's B eerus gonna do? Punch him? Odin's wrestled.with Galactic.

[nickzambuto]

Because it provides its wielder with a thousand different ways to defeat a conventional fighter, which Beers is. When B eerus can be shown to resist time control or reality manipulation or having his soul ripped out or being teleported into another universe or matter manipulation or essentially any other power Odin wants. Not to mention that Odin has demonstrated the exact same feat that B eerus did, except on a multiversal level. What's B eerus gonna do? Punch him? Odin's wrestled.with Galactic.

Odin doesn't use any of those powers in battle though. He did not wrestle with Galactus, that is very out of context. Odin anticipated Galactus' arrival early on and had loads of prep time where he crafted armors, then he put all of his strength into one headbutt that knocked both him and Galactus out simultaneously, except Galactus eventually woke up first. And the headbutt was kind of a sucker punch too, Galactus didn't even get the chance to fight back. That is actually a prime example of the way Odin fights, which isn't very different from his son, or from Dragon Ball characters for that matter. If Odin's time control was so great, why didn't he use it against Galactus?

Also what are you referring to when you say Odin is multiversal? To my understanding it's still under debate on whether he's legitimately galactic level, his only showings in that regard are a narrator statement from like 30 years ago, and his evil counterpart doing something to a galaxy, neither of which is very solid.

Granted the Thor mythos is not my area of expertise. When it comes to Marvel I usually stick with the street level guys mostly, but I have seen many debates on Comic Vine and this is what I've learned to be the general consensus. I had thought for sure Beerus could beat Odin now, and even go rounds with Galactus now that he's confirmed universal.

[ahill1]

Vegeta SSJ ( cell games ) Vs Piccolo ( cell games ). Who wins? The Saiyan or the Namekian ?

[nickzambuto]

Vegeta SSJ ( cell games ) Vs Piccolo ( cell games ). Who wins? The Saiyan or the Namekian ?

Vegeta > Trunks > Piccolo

Therefore Vegeta >> Piccolo. The power difference between the two should be substantial.

I might give Piccolo the win over Trunks due to his cunning and greater experience with his Namekian abilities being the deciding wildcard, that would be the better fight, but since Vegeta is also the smarter and more skilled fighter in addition to being more powerful, Piccolo doesn't really stand a chance.