"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by Kagari » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:07 pm

Nejishiki wrote:
HECTOR4 wrote:Fuji TV Chapter 34 synopsis. Can someone translate this, please? ^^:

ゴクウブラックの正体は依然としてつかめないものの、悟空の強さに驚く未来トランクス。そんなトランクスにベジータが「稽古をつけてやる」と声をかける!

Link: http://www.fujitv.co.jp/b_hp/dragonball_super/
There isn't any noteworthy information I'm seeing. Goku Black has yet to be revealed and Vegeta takes it upon himself to train Future Trunks. Corrections to this are welcome.
Pretty much the same summary as before. Although they've yet to obtain Goku Black's true identity, Future Trunks is astonished at Goku's strength. Vegeta calls out to that Trunks, "I'll give you some training!"

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Post by HECTOR4 » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:56 pm

Kagari wrote:
Nejishiki wrote:
HECTOR4 wrote:Fuji TV Chapter 34 synopsis. Can someone translate this, please? ^^:

ゴクウブラックの正体は依然としてつかめないものの、悟空の強さに驚く未来トランクス。そんなトランクスにベジータが「稽古をつけてやる」と声をかける!

Link: http://www.fujitv.co.jp/b_hp/dragonball_super/
There isn't any noteworthy information I'm seeing. Goku Black has yet to be revealed and Vegeta takes it upon himself to train Future Trunks. Corrections to this are welcome.
Pretty much the same summary as before. Although they've yet to obtain Goku Black's true identity, Future Trunks is astonished at Goku's strength. Vegeta calls out to that Trunks, "I'll give you some training!"
Thank you very much ^^

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Post by ArchedThunder » Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:23 pm

When does Newtype or what ever we're going to get episodes titles from come out?

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Post by Sodhi » Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:29 pm

6-10 of a month.

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Post by TekTheNinja » Thu Aug 04, 2016 10:38 pm

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Avok wrote:I know it's kinda off-topic, but:
Being excited is one thing, but acting like a 5 year old is a completely different matter.
Adult Goku was never like that in the manga. His excitemend to fight strong opponents and his innocence was portrayed in a subtle way, now he's like a completely different character most of the time.

This isn't new tho. Toriyama has said that they neved got Goku's character right because they made him too heroic. Now they're doing the polar opposite, and with this new wave that shonen main characters need to be goofy and dumb (Luffy, early Naruto, Hinata from Haikyuu, Asta from Black Clover) I can see why they feel like this is the right direction.

Its not just an anime. Watch an American Cartoon like Steven Universe and you will see basically the same thing. Adventure Time is the same.
Except Steven is actually a character with layers an he develops. Goku is nothing like that in Super.

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Post by Sonicjamareiz » Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:50 pm

TekTheNinja wrote:
GodKaio-Ken wrote:
Avok wrote:I know it's kinda off-topic, but:
Being excited is one thing, but acting like a 5 year old is a completely different matter.
Adult Goku was never like that in the manga. His excitemend to fight strong opponents and his innocence was portrayed in a subtle way, now he's like a completely different character most of the time.

This isn't new tho. Toriyama has said that they neved got Goku's character right because they made him too heroic. Now they're doing the polar opposite, and with this new wave that shonen main characters need to be goofy and dumb (Luffy, early Naruto, Hinata from Haikyuu, Asta from Black Clover) I can see why they feel like this is the right direction.

Its not just an anime. Watch an American Cartoon like Steven Universe and you will see basically the same thing. Adventure Time is the same.
Except Steven is actually a character with layers an he develops. Goku is nothing like that in Super.
Goku is nothing like that in general :angel:
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Post by dbs fanboy » Fri Aug 05, 2016 10:10 am

Sonicjamareiz wrote:
TekTheNinja wrote:
GodKaio-Ken wrote:

Its not just an anime. Watch an American Cartoon like Steven Universe and you will see basically the same thing. Adventure Time is the same.
Except Steven is actually a character with layers an he develops. Goku is nothing like that in Super.
Goku is nothing like that in general :angel:
Goku still has development/serious moments. even is Super. Remember ep 43? Remember his final words with Beerus in his fight? Remember when he was talking about pawns with Hit?.

Super's problem is that Goku's characterisation is exagerated, like in ep 53, and as Super has only a few stakes and Goku is pretty strong (like too strong) he seems more naive/dummy than ever.
If Super had more stakes, and Goku's characterisation wasn't exagerated, we wouldn't need to deal With this problem.
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Post by Pannaliciour » Fri Aug 05, 2016 10:12 am

I love it how dumb Goku act before the fight but dead serious is in his fights.

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Post by Dbzfan94 » Fri Aug 05, 2016 11:25 am

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At this point there are more people liking the show than hating it, and in that group of haters we still have people that don't accept the japanese cast, so when Super gets dubbed in their language and Goku gets his superman voice it will be miraculously better for them.
Why do you always find the need to bash the dub? Even with the amazing quality Funimation puts out these days people still like to act like its 2001. It baffles me that these comments still happen post Kai over a simple lamguage preference (though it goes both ways)

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Post by FortuneSSJ » Fri Aug 05, 2016 11:51 am

Dbzfan94 wrote:
FortuneSSJ wrote:
At this point there are more people liking the show than hating it, and in that group of haters we still have people that don't accept the japanese cast, so when Super gets dubbed in their language and Goku gets his superman voice it will be miraculously better for them.
Why do you always find the need to bash the dub? Even with the amazing quality Funimation puts out these days people still like to act like its 2001. It baffles me that these comments still happen post Kai over a simple lamguage preference (though it goes both ways)
It's because i still see people bashing about Goku's japanese voice in recent videos and you can read comments exactly saying stuff like "Super will be much better when it gets dubbed".
It happened with BOG and ROF Movies too. Until they get dubbed, they were the worst DB Movies for those people.

When talking about people that don't like Super for now, I can't ignore that group.
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Post by dbgtFO » Fri Aug 05, 2016 12:17 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:
Dbzfan94 wrote:
FortuneSSJ wrote:
At this point there are more people liking the show than hating it, and in that group of haters we still have people that don't accept the japanese cast, so when Super gets dubbed in their language and Goku gets his superman voice it will be miraculously better for them.
Why do you always find the need to bash the dub? Even with the amazing quality Funimation puts out these days people still like to act like its 2001. It baffles me that these comments still happen post Kai over a simple lamguage preference (though it goes both ways)
It's because i still see people bashing about Goku's japanese voice in recent videos and you can read comments exactly saying stuff like "Super will be much better when it gets dubbed".
It happened with BOG and ROF Movies too. Until they get dubbed, they were the worst DB Movies for those people.

When talking about people that don't like Super for now, I can't ignore that group.
I'm normally all for Goku's JP voice, but man episode 53 really grated on my ears. The cringe, when Goku got pulled in the ear by Beerus and got thrown into the air and cried out "Beerus-sama yadda yadda something about how it hurt."
Terrible, terrible, terrible and if Mrs Nozawa makes a habit of that performance, then I'd like to see her replaced.
But so far she has been on point in most episodes, so I hope this was just due to how awfully written Goku was in this episode.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Fri Aug 05, 2016 12:31 pm

Dbzfan94 wrote:
FortuneSSJ wrote:
At this point there are more people liking the show than hating it, and in that group of haters we still have people that don't accept the japanese cast, so when Super gets dubbed in their language and Goku gets his superman voice it will be miraculously better for them.
Why do you always find the need to bash the dub? Even with the amazing quality Funimation puts out these days people still like to act like its 2001. It baffles me that these comments still happen post Kai over a simple language preference (though it goes both ways)
I agree. Sean has the right balance between serious and dumb Goku. Genuinely can't wait to see how he handles some of Super Goku's moments particularly that Pan and Ki troubles episode.

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Post by Anime Kitten » Fri Aug 05, 2016 12:53 pm

Honestly, I want Goku to stop fighting for a while. They nailed, and I mean nailed his personality in Episode 43. He needs to take a break and start caring about his family.
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Post by GodKaio-Ken » Fri Aug 05, 2016 12:57 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:
Dbzfan94 wrote:
FortuneSSJ wrote:
At this point there are more people liking the show than hating it, and in that group of haters we still have people that don't accept the japanese cast, so when Super gets dubbed in their language and Goku gets his superman voice it will be miraculously better for them.
Why do you always find the need to bash the dub? Even with the amazing quality Funimation puts out these days people still like to act like its 2001. It baffles me that these comments still happen post Kai over a simple lamguage preference (though it goes both ways)
It's because i still see people bashing about Goku's japanese voice in recent videos and you can read comments exactly saying stuff like "Super will be much better when it gets dubbed".
It happened with BOG and ROF Movies too. Until they get dubbed, they were the worst DB Movies for those people.

When talking about people that don't like Super for now, I can't ignore that group.

Fwiw I don't mind his Japanese voice but I have crazy respect for Sean Schemmel (hope I spelled that right) in Kai. He has a perfect English voice for his personality.
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Post by Dbzfan94 » Fri Aug 05, 2016 1:13 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:Honestly, I want Goku to stop fighting for a while. They nailed, and I mean nailed his personality in Episode 43. He needs to take a break and start caring about his family.
I agree whole heartedly. Episode 43 was the closest to the "old" Goku we ever got thus far in Super

FortuneSSJ, people are going to hate no matter what. If it's not okay to say anything bad against the sub, then the opposite should be true. I agree with others that Nozawa has usually been good but this episode Goku really got on my last nerves. And idk if it her was her delivery, how he was written, or both. But it was just annoying.

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Post by Saikyo no Senshi » Fri Aug 05, 2016 1:39 pm

Instead of blaming the voice actor I think the writers and only the writers should be blamed for Gokuu's exaggerated over the top characterization in ep 53.

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Post by Chuquita » Fri Aug 05, 2016 1:59 pm

King Ryu wrote 43. Yoshitaka Toshio wrote 53.

I was surprised they had Toshio write a Gokû episode, he's normally their VegeBul guy.
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Post by DainIronfoot » Fri Aug 05, 2016 2:34 pm

Just want to point out that I saw on fb episode titles (says non confirmed so take with grain of salt!) For next episodes.

[spoiler]not yet confimed:
57「悟空、超サイヤ人ブルーになる」
56「再戦ゴクウブラック!超サイヤ人ロゼ登場!!」
55「孫悟空に会いたいのね 全王様からのよびだし!」[/spoiler]

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Post by Anime Kitten » Fri Aug 05, 2016 2:39 pm

DainIronfoot wrote:Just want to point out that I saw on fb episode titles (says non confirmed so take with grain of salt!) For next episodes.

[spoiler]not yet confimed:
57「悟空、超サイヤ人ブルーになる」
56「再戦ゴクウブラック!超サイヤ人ロゼ登場!!」
55「孫悟空に会いたいのね 全王様からのよびだし!」[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Quick Google translation shows that 55 will probably be Omni-King, 56 will be Super Saiyan "Rose" Black Goku (says rematch, which I'm guessing is referring to 50), and 57 will have Super Saiyan Blue Goku.
But I'll leave it to the professionals after official confirmation.[/spoiler]
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Post by DainIronfoot » Fri Aug 05, 2016 2:43 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:
DainIronfoot wrote:Just want to point out that I saw on fb episode titles (says non confirmed so take with grain of salt!) For next episodes.

[spoiler]not yet confimed:
57「悟空、超サイヤ人ブルーになる」
56「再戦ゴクウブラック!超サイヤ人ロゼ登場!!」
55「孫悟空に会いたいのね 全王様からのよびだし!」[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Quick Google translation shows that 55 will probably be Omni-King, 56 will be Super Saiyan "Rose" Black Goku (says rematch, which I'm guessing is referring to 50), and 57 will have Super Saiyan Blue Goku.
But I'll leave it to the professionals after official confirmation.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Interesting! I've asked Herms on Twitter if he can translate for me as well. Speculation time!! Haha[/spoiler]

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