Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Big Momma]

What page is the summary buried in?

I need to know more about Veggie's "moment".

Check the website. It's the latest news post: http://www.kanzenshuu.com

[Sandubadear]

I'm pretty disappointed in all this hype about Frieza getting another transformation and powering up and shit, but at the end, he doesn't even surpass Goku and Vegeta.

What was the end credit scene that was so hyped for? The whole "maybe once more" comment thing.

It's simply Frieza back at Hell with the Angels saying "welcome back!"

[dbzfan7]

Also not sure what all the biased hate towards Vegeta is lol

It's due to a certain few frequent followers of this thread who have been shouting at the top of their lungs FOR MONTHS that Vegeta would be the one to save the day, that this was Vegeta's movie, that everyone who said otherwise was wrong and obviously too dense not to comprehend that it was Vegeta's time to shine, that Vegeta would put Freeza in his place and avenge his fallen homeworld that he never cared about, that Vegeta would win after Goku got nearly killed by Freeza, because Vegeta's head was the same size as Goku's on the first poster.

It got really old, really fast, and it never, ever stopped. So yes. Some of us take a great deal of pleasure in these people being proved wrong.

I know I do...oh boy does it please me. This summary makes Vegeta look even worse, and seems to prove the others overrated him. He cowers again in front of Freeza while Goku does not, and then he fights a Freeza that was severely beaten by Goku. I wouldn't be so happy about this if what you mentioned above didn't plague this thread, and the net for months.

[Beerus-sama]

What page is the summary buried in?

I need to know more about Veggie's "moment".

here it is:
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/movie/revival-of-f/

Clear your browser cache if you don't see it, that worked for me

[Gyt Kaliba]

Sooooo, Sorbet's ring has the power to bring down Goku...... Something Golden Freeza couldn't do..... The fuck....

Sorbet! The fuck are you doing?!?!?! You have a ring that can bring ~Godku~ to his knees and yet you are still Freeza's little muppet bitch!?!?!

Fuck, if you're still gonna serve Freeza the least you could do is mass produce some fucking rings... Maybe then your army could stand a chance for once....

The ring itself is nothing special. Nor is Sorbet. It was just Goku letting down his guard far too much, as it's even pointed out.

Spoiler:

Freeza gloats over Goku’s softness, mocking the “bad habit” of letting down his guard that left even his powerful body vulnerable to a mere beam attack.

[Lord Beerus]

After reading the summary, I've come to this conclusion: The movie itself doesn't really set itself apart from the usual 40-50 romps that Toei uses the provided during the 90s, that don't really shake up the continuity of the franchise and are only really exist for the sake of fan service. That said, while the plot is quite thin, but I does provides really good interactions within the Z-Fighters Krillin/#18 Gohan/Piccolo and of course Goku/Vegeta. Guys like Piccolo, Gohan, Roshi and Krillin getting their time to shine is certainly s highlight for me. Beerus was hilarious. The Pilaf Gangs appearance was brief but quite god for what it was. Vegeta beating the shit out of Freeza is something that should have happened so long ago and Resurrection F provided that, so that's a huge bonus. And Freeza came back kicked ass and went down in a blaze of glory, somewhat. And all the loose end about what happened to the Planet Trade Organisation after Freeza's death got tied up as well, so I count that as a bonus. Jaco also fit in like a glove. He should become a permanent member of the Z-Fighters.

I feel as though the movie missed a few opportunity in some areas. Yes, it was great to have Freeza come back and him dying was really the only option, as this was nothing more than a one-off thing for him, but I feel as though this movie could have given us a glimpse into Freeza's past, his race, what made him who he became. The ending also reeks of blatant deus ex machina for the sake of giving Goku the major kill. But it's kind of brilliant when you about it: Goku started his battle with Final Form Freeza all the way back on Namek and now officially ended it on Earth as it was originally intended to be. That is incredibly meta. It's appears as though 90% of this movie is purely fight scenes. Which can be a good a bad thing as while the constant insertion of action will keep my attention, it also leaves less time for the movie to breath and relax.

Overall,If I were to be really harsh, I'd describe this movie as the equivalent of Micheal Jackson performing his final This Is It tour, only for him to collapse and pass out halfway during the tour and the rest of the tour having to be cancelled and nobody gets their money back. But hey, it's a Dragon Ball Z movie, not an animated feature from Pixar or Dreamworks that's vying for an Oscar for Best Animated Feature. I'll watch the movie myself before I give a final rating. I have feeling that when I watch the movie, the 93 minutes are going to fly by.

Also, this:

"...Freeza notices the presence of Beerus, who complains that Freeza is going to get dust all over the food if he doesn’t fight somewhere else."

Oh my God!

[RandomGuy96]

There are limits. Being off guard doesn't automatically mean that anything can kill you. This was explicitly spelled out in the 23rd Budokai. Yamcha comments on how he was able to catch Kami off guard and land a clean hit, but was forced to forfeit nonetheless, because Kami was so strong that even catching him off guard just bloodied his nose.

[Drayenko]

And when has Goku let his guard down that Freeza would know?

[Sparko33]

I know I do...oh boy does it please me. This summary makes Vegeta look even worse, and seems to prove the others overrated him. He cowers again in front of Freeza while Goku does not, and then he fights a Freeza that was severely beaten by Goku. I wouldn't be so happy about this if what you mentioned above didn't plague this thread, and the net for months.

Go back to dancing like a fool/saiyaman on your minor yt channel lol

Anyway back on topic, I still fail to see how it makes Vegeta look even worse, we haven't seen the movie and all we see is that he says its Goku's turn to fight Golden Freeza. You're reading too much into this, as you, kami and sansrivaal have been doing for the past few days; you guys are way too biased against the character just because some fans over-reacted. I'm a Vegeta fan myself, but I knew he wouldn't get the final blow, because he didn't have as much beef with Freeza as Goku did.

I am however happy that he managed to absorb the God form for himself, and transform into the BSSJG too; so the gap between him and Goku is getting smaller. There's not much more I could have hoped for; he got the absorption, the new form, and had his moment, while also saving Goku and humiliating Freeza to the point that he lost the golden form, so its not a bad movie in that regard. The fact that in this movie and the last, Vegeta was more involved as a protagonist is a good sign.

[Noah]

The guy speaks about ''Pride'' and how much Goku doesnt have ''Pride'' yet he battle's a very and I mean very worn down Freeza with no momentum due to being owned by Goku. Guess Toriyama doesnt plan on making Vegeta equal to Goku, there will always be a gap.

Really pathetic, I'm not a Vegeta fanboy, but he don't deserve that kind of treatment by the author.

I would like to see this movie just like some made by TOEI, only for entertainment, without the need to fit in the original story.

I have to be honest here. The film seems completely disappointing.

I'm with you, man... This movie doesn't add shit to the story told before (Battle Of Gods), It's totally unnecessary, thanks Toriyama.

[Kamiccolo9]

I know I do...oh boy does it please me. This summary makes Vegeta look even worse, and seems to prove the others overrated him. He cowers again in front of Freeza while Goku does not, and then he fights a Freeza that was severely beaten by Goku. I wouldn't be so happy about this if what you mentioned above didn't plague this thread, and the net for months.

Go back to dancing like a fool/saiyaman on your minor yt channel lol

Anyway back on topic, I still fail to see how it makes Vegeta look even worse, we haven't seen the movie and all we see is that he says its Goku's turn to fight Golden Freeza. You're reading too much into this, as you, kami and sansrivaal have been doing for the past few days; you guys are way too biased against the character just because some fans over-reacted. I'm a Vegeta fan myself, but I knew he wouldn't get the final blow, because he didn't have as much beef with Freeza as Goku did.

First line is uncalled for.

As for your second paragraph, if you've truly been reading my posts, you'll know that I have nothing against Vegeta as he is currently portrayed. BoG and JSAT Vegeta are great.

"Fan overreaction" is one thing. It's quite another to have that "overreaction" shoved down your throat with no backing for MONTHS.

As for the Goku/Freeza relationship being stronger than the Vegeta/Freeza one, I was the first person to point that out.

The other thing is, everyone keeps bringing up Vegeta's relationship with Freeza, but everyone seems to be overlooking Freeza's relationship with Vegeta.

Goku may not have killed Freeza, but he might as well have destroyed him. Mecha-Freeza was a joke, a shadow of his former self. There's enmity on both sides here. That's what makes a good hero/villain relationship.

The Vegeta/Freeza relationship, on the other hand, is almost entirely one-sided. Vegeta's always been a joke to Freeza. He's a pet that occasionally tries to bite back. For all that Vegeta despised Freeza, Freeza just didn't care.

So you're preaching to the choir there.

[Beerus-sama]

The summary doesn't tell anything about Beerus wanting to destroy Earth but I'm ok with it

It does. It says Beerus wanted to destroy it because, as God of Destruction, he can't allow planets to be restored (referring to Whis using his time travel ability).

No, I was refering to the scene that was showed in the last trailer we saw, when Beerus was smirking to someone.
Kei said he was destroying Earth but then he knew about Bulma´s Strawberry Sundae...
or it really was the scene? as far as I read it didnt say anything about him wanting to destroy it:

Spoiler:

Beerus says it’s unbecoming for a God of Destruction to restore a planet, but Bulma says that as thanks, she’ll prepare them a feast… as soon as they restore North City with the Dragon Balls, that is. Whis is pleased. Bulma asks Jaco if it’s really all right for him not to be arresting Whis, since control over time is a serious offense.

There is no reference for Beerus wanting to destroy Earth because of Whis helping.
but maybe you're right

[dbzfan7]

I know I do...oh boy does it please me. This summary makes Vegeta look even worse, and seems to prove the others overrated him. He cowers again in front of Freeza while Goku does not, and then he fights a Freeza that was severely beaten by Goku. I wouldn't be so happy about this if what you mentioned above didn't plague this thread, and the net for months.

Go back to dancing like a fool/saiyaman on your minor yt channel lol

Considering I did that in front of a crowd at Comic Con which applauded me, as well as having Kyle Hebert the voice of Gohan having my back, I will. Though it's comments like that which will leave you with a very short time on Kanzenshuu. If you get banned, you are blocked from the whole site and not just the forums. So choose your words wisely if you want to partake in this community.

[Ronin]

Judging from the summary, I agree that it doesn't seem like a stand alone story, more like an epilogue or something. Kind of like when Future Trunks goes back to his timeline and kills the Artificial Humans and Cell. It still sounds good, but it would've been cool if there had been an interesting plot twist in the middle of the fight that really messed things up and would be difficult to fix. I'm not sure what it would be, it wouldn't have to be some new special technique or Freeza's, but maybe something he does or something with a second wish that would cause a chain reaction of a lot of crap like making him immortal like he always wanted, I dunno.

But yeah, looking forward to seeing it.

[Sandubadear]

Bulma asks Jaco if it’s really all right for him not to be arresting Whis, since control over time is a serious offense.

I assume gods are exempted from this, since the Supreme Kai of Time can do whatever she wants and Jaco isn't even in the story of the game.

[radrappy]

After scanning the synopsis, it honestly sounds like a fantastic time for fans of the franchise. Everyone sounds very in character, Freeza himself sounds like he's in top form. Color me excited.

[mikey41]

Someone only as strong as Zarbon was able to get the best of a Super Namek? Wow. At least Gohan was able to beat him.

[saunasolmu]

There are limits. Being off guard doesn't automatically mean that anything can kill you. This was explicitly spelled out in the 23rd Budokai. Yamcha comments on how he was able to catch Kami off guard and land a clean hit, but was forced to forfeit nonetheless, because Kami was so strong that even catching him off guard just bloodied his nose.

Krillin was able to pierce Vegeta's body on Namek once he lowered his guard and the power difference between them is much bigger.

Sounds like a fun movie that I will surely enjoy watching. Again, I'm not sure what kind of story some here are expecting from a Dragon Ball movie. It's not supposed to follow some strict internal logic, it's supposed to be just fun to watch.

[ekrolo2]

This is gonna be a wonderful train wreck to watch, tell me, why did this "story" deserve anything more than an OVA while the actual BoG sequels waiting to get made?

[ShadowWolf87]

Welp, just read the summary.

I can safely say I'm gonna love this movie. Was exactly what I expected from it.