Toriko Takes DBK's Slot On April 3 (Kai Ends with Cell)

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Re: Toriko animated series takes Kai's timeslot in April?!

Post by kei17 » Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:14 am

Innagadadavida wrote:What do you mean by "copyright revenue"? Do you mean like the sales for the franchise are down over there in Japan?
Ah, that's it. Sorry for my poor English.

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Re: Toriko animated series takes Kai's timeslot in April?!

Post by Innagadadavida » Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:16 am

No no, it's fine, completely understandable. I'm just making sure I knew what you meant. :P

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Re: Toriko animated series takes Kai's timeslot in April?!

Post by DemonRin » Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:22 am

I just had a thought, didn't Kaioshin's Voice actor AND Videl's voice actor both talk about possibly coming back to the series?

Did either of them mention actually being asked or talking to someone in that position?

I seem to remember Kaioshin's actor saying he spoke to the director or something...

I mean, if they were actually asked or someone official actually did say something to them, there's more hope the show will continue?
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Re: Toriko animated series takes Kai's timeslot in April?!

Post by JulieYBM » Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:31 am

Kaiôshin's actor said that the director wasn't sure they were going to cover the Majin Boo arc or that they could afford him. Videl's actress said that with Gôri dead she wasn't sure she was up to returning as Videl.
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Re: Toriko animated series takes Kai's timeslot in April?!

Post by Karrit » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:43 pm

I don't post very often, but I am curious to why the Dragonball franchise is waning in Japan. I find it a little difficult to believe the Japanese would all of a sudden lose interest in an institution as enduring to them as Doraemon, Lupin Sansei and Ashita no Joe.
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Re: Toriko animated series takes Kai's timeslot in April?!

Post by Goku100xKamehameha » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:44 pm

Karrit wrote:I don't post very often, but I am curious to why the Dragonball franchise is waning in Japan. I find it a little difficult to believe the Japanese would all of a sudden lose interest an institution as enduring to them as Doraeman, Lupin Sansei and Ashita no Joe.
Because of One Piece, I guess.

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Re: Toriko animated series takes Kai's timeslot in April?!

Post by JulieYBM » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:48 pm

Karrit wrote:I don't post very often, but I am curious to why the Dragonball franchise is waning in Japan. I find it a little difficult to believe the Japanese would all of a sudden lose interest an institution as enduring to them as Doraeman, Lupin Sansei and Ashita no Joe.
Poor management. They satured the market with the same sort of games over and over, then created a forth weekly series that rehashed the same story the games did...using twenty year old animation, unfamiliar music, and some recasts.

Japan would obviously rather spend their money on One Piece, which is the actual modern Dragon Ball (except with better writing).
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Re: Toriko animated series takes Kai's timeslot in April?!

Post by alakazam^ » Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:22 pm

But Dragonball is still one of the top 10 most seen anime every week.

Edit: It might not mean much, but "syoboi calendar" has entries for Kai up untill episode 99.

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Post by JulieYBM » Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:05 pm

alakazam^ wrote:But Dragonball is still one of the top 10 most seen anime every week.

Edit: It might not mean much, but "syoboi calendar" has entries for Kai up untill episode 99.
Ratings don't pay the bills.

That link...looks intesting, assuming it is real.
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Re: Toriko animated series takes Kai's timeslot in April?!

Post by alakazam^ » Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:33 pm

JulieYBM wrote:
alakazam^ wrote:But Dragonball is still one of the top 10 most seen anime every week.

Edit: It might not mean much, but "syoboi calendar" has entries for Kai up untill episode 99.
Merchandise doesn't pay the bills.

That link...looks intesting, assuming it is real.
That site has the schedule for anime and anime-related shows throughout the week with several notes like breaks, first and last episode. I've been using it since Kai started. However, future entries might just be based on magazine spoilers and such.

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Re: Toriko animated series takes Kai's timeslot in April?!

Post by AgitoZ » Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:51 pm

Karrit wrote:I don't post very often, but I am curious to why the Dragonball franchise is waning in Japan. I find it a little difficult to believe the Japanese would all of a sudden lose interest in an institution as enduring to them as Doraemon, Lupin Sansei and Ashita no Joe.
You also have to remember that Doraemon still has an ongoing anime and Lupin III has had yearly TV specials airing since 1989. Those two series series still have new material coming out. DB hasn't had as much new material so that could be why.

Also I know Ashita no Joe is critically acclaimed and well-beloved but has Joe had much new material? It may be as loved as the other series and DB but has it really been such a cashcow like the others, in recent years at least?
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Re: Toriko animated series takes Kai's timeslot in April?!

Post by Cipher » Sun Feb 20, 2011 6:30 pm

JulieYBM wrote:Merchandise doesn't pay the bills.
Erm, wait. Yes it does.

Ratings don't pay the bills.

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Re: Toriko animated series takes Kai's timeslot in April?!

Post by JulieYBM » Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:11 pm

Cipher wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:Merchandise doesn't pay the bills.
Erm, wait. Yes it does.

Ratings don't pay the bills.
Wow. I cannot believe that happened. That's entirely what I meant to say. O.o
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Re: Toriko animated series takes Kai's timeslot in April?!

Post by Taku128 » Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:05 pm

Why don't ratings pay bills? In America there are plenty of shows that are/have been successful based on ratings alone. What's different about Japan that the same thing doesn't apply?
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Re: Toriko animated series takes Kai's timeslot in April?!

Post by JulieYBM » Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:22 pm

Taku128 wrote:Why don't ratings pay bills? In America there are plenty of shows that are/have been successful based on ratings alone. What's different about Japan that the same thing doesn't apply?
Toei and other compies have to buy the timeslot that their shows run in, which requires them to spend money. I'm not entirely sure the roles commercials play, but with the way they promote merchandise of the shows during the shows, I'd have to assume outside companies aren't going to spend much on commercial time during a show.
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Re: Toriko animated series takes Kai's timeslot in April?!

Post by kei17 » Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:50 am

Here is a scan of a Japanese TV magazine from 2ch. You know, there is no 終 (end) mark on Kai. Maybe it's not yet determined or just misprinted, but hey...

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Re: Toriko animated series takes Kai's timeslot in April?!

Post by Innagadadavida » Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:53 am

Not a single bit of news that has come of this has been helpful. Nobody can tell. I hate how secretive Japan is about this stuff. Drives me crazy, man. Crazy I tell you. I'm crazy.

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Re: Toriko animated series takes Kai's timeslot in April?!

Post by JulieYBM » Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:45 am

Hmmm...another piece of the puzzle that doesn't quite 'answer' anything. Hmmm...interesting, indeed...
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Re: Toriko animated series takes Kai's timeslot in April?!

Post by DemonRin » Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:47 am

That's... heartening, yet non-telling at the exact same time...
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Re: Toriko animated series takes Kai's timeslot in April?!

Post by Chuquita » Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:58 am

I feel like we're not going to know Kai's fate until maybe one or two weeks before Toriko starts airing. @_@

The uncertainty is so frustrating. :(
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