Gonstead wrote:Piccolo Daimao wrote:Gonstead wrote:By the time the Namek Saga started, the martial arts aspect of the series was officially dead.
I'd say that happened in the Saiyan arc, with the introduction of battle powers and people like the Saiyans and Freeza, who largely relied on brute force.
I wouldn't say so. I think the Saiyan fights seemed to have their fair share of martial arts action, even in the Vegeta vs Goku fight.
Really? I'm not as familiar with the anime as I am with the manga, but even with all of Gokuu's skill, it seemed to be nothing more than a couple of fast-paced exchanges we'd seen a million times before, and Vegeta easily overpowering Gokuu until he used his Kaiouken x3.
Rory wrote:The Time Traveller wrote:, like when they get on the ship to Namek then she suddenly turns cold.
Right, not being funny here, but I started to believe that Bulma might just be having a bit of a mood change at that point... y'know.. maybe it's a certain time of the month.
Of course, because whenever a woman is moody for an unexplained reason, she
must be on the blob, amirite?!
Sheesh. Sorry, I may be overreacting, but I'm fed up of when people always throw out this poorly-thought dismissal. Can't a woman, just like a man, be experiencing stress, or something else within them that you don't know about? I think it was pretty clear that Blooma was pissed she had to go all the way to Namek when she didn't want to, in a little spaceship with Gohan and Kuririn, cut her hair so it wouldn't get in the way of her uncomfortable spacesuit, and her annoyance at feeling over-prepared when she saw what Gohan and Kuririn looked like.
SparkyPantsMcGee wrote:Piccolo Daimao wrote:
Although, even back then, just because she flirted doesn't mean that she ever really intended to have sex with them. The only time it ever got serious was when those Red Ribbon Army guys tried to rape her, and that alone may've been enough to set her straight. And I'm sure that Vegeta didn't rape her.
I don't think so either. If anything she came onto Vegeta. As evil as he is, I don't think it's in his character; hell he doesn't seem that interested in women really(none of the Sayians do honestly). If he did have feelings for her, he'd probably be too proud to admit it...which leads me to another unpopular opinion.
Yeah, my fanon theory is that, after having a heated argument with Yamcha in which she eventually dumped him for good, she was looking for some solace, and so she seduced Vegeta.
SparkyPantsMcGee wrote:I think Vegeta enjoyed fighting alongside Krillin and Gohan on Namek and living on earth. Having to fight the Ginyu force alongside Krillin and Gohan probably had him realize he was really all alone. I think something clicked during that battle that he really didn't want to admit, that maybe he liked these guys, which is why he bailed on Goku when it came time to fight Ginyu. He was to proud to admit to himself that he might actually enjoy fighting alongside Goku and the others. I think that's also why he stayed on earth. Not having another home to go to, I think he decided earth was the best place to be. He had "friends" even if they didn't really like him. I think everything kind of grew on him and he just didn't want to admit it. I'd say the Buu saga is were he finally broke and caved in on his own feelings but you can tell he had no plans to leave even before then.
I see what you mean, although I don't entirely agree. I think when he rescued them and said stuff like, "Don't get me wrong, I wasn't doing it to save you. It was just the best opportunity to do away with this pathetic little Gurd!", he just didn't want to admit that he
would need them to fight alongside him against the Ginyuu Special-Squad and Freeza, as well as counting on them to help him if he ran into a problem with the DBs (which he, and all of them, did).
I thought he bailed on Gokuu because Gohan and Kuririn had run back to Freeza's spaceship to get the DBs, so it'd be the best opportunity to swoop in and take the wish for himself. I don't know how you could interpret it any other way, but whatever. As for Earth, I figured that he literally had no other place to go, so he just settled on Earth and thought, "Well, nothing better to do than just train to become a Super Saiyan until I can fight Kakarrot again."
