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Re: Pictures color-corrected to fit various official version

Post by DNA » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:18 pm

Cold Skin wrote:Thanks for all the remarks! 8)
I will add that note about Gohan's cape with Goku's gi, but first I'll have to check out which games came first (I guess the version's name should be the first game which had that version available, with the subsequent games being mentionned at the end of the description).
Dragon Ball Z 2 Super Battle came about a decade before Super Dragon Ball Z. And I agree with the order, but do double check all the pics to make sure because various colours are repeated. Goku's inverted palette from Burst Limit was used on Supersonic Warriors first. The SNES games share most of the palette swaps as well.

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Re: Pictures color-corrected to fit various official version

Post by DNA » Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:51 am

Supersonic Warriors 2 added. PS2 related games will be put on hold until I get my capture card. Then they will be substituted by screenshots instead of shitty photos.

I've checked Gekitou Tenkaichi Budokai for the NES, no palette swaps there. Next one will be Ultimate Butoden.
After that, with my capture card, all PS2 games with the exception of Budokai and Sparking!. If anyone wants to donate PAL versions would be appreciated. Zykar and Iced will be sending me Sparking! NEO and Budokai 2 soon.

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Re: Pictures color-corrected to fit various official version

Post by Cold Skin » Sat Feb 16, 2013 3:27 pm

UPDATE: BUTTA / COOLER / GIANT APE / JANEMBA / MISTER SATAN / REACUM / SON GOHAN / SON GOKU / TRUNKS / WEREMAN

MINOR CORRECTIONS:

- Given recent developments in the franchise, "Manga version" has now been replaced by either "Original Manga version" or "Full-Color Manga version".
- A misleading comment on Trunks' Budokai Tenkaichi 3 version has been corrected (it could imply that the palette swap had more purple hair than the main in-game model, when actually the comparison is with the anime version - all in-game models sharing the exact same hair).
- Gohan's Cell Game "Goku costume palette swap" has been corrected to emphasize the first game that used this version and did show it with a cape.


Phew, it took me a bit longer than I expected, but here is your weekly update! :)
To check out a hundred more versions before I even give them a picture on this thread, you have DNA's "Palette Swaps Library" in his signature! :wink:

BUTTA:

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1) Anime version.
2) Dragon Ball Z (Arcade) version. An alternative appearance for this video game, giving more of a reptilian feel to the character. Just replacing his blue skin with green skin. His scouter does not appear and how it would be affected by the changes in colors is unknown.

COOLER:

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1) Anime version.
2) Budokai 3 version. An alternative costume for this video game. The skin gets indigo and more importantly, the crystal on his head is now bright orange. This version was also used for the Budokai Tenkaichi game series.

GIANT APE:

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1) Anime / Full Color Manga version.
2) Daizenshuu Volume 7 version. Toriyama has drawn the Giant Ape as having a skin tone (albeit quite more saturated than for human depictions), yellow eyes and blue-almost-going-indigo fur. Since Giant Apes are quite rare in Toriyama artworks, it is currently unknown if it was a one-time vision or if he actually always saw them as changing the color of their fur compared to their human forms' brown tail.

JANEMBA:

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1) Anime version.
2) Budokai Tenkaichi 3 version. When you simply turn the purple/pink parts into blue (almost indigo) parts, you get the alternative appearance for this video game.

MISTER SATAN

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1) Anime version.
2) Original Manga version N°1 / Kanzenban version N°1 / Video games. This black outfit is shown on several artworks in the Boo saga, as well as in color pages. It's also a back cover of the Kanzenban, but Mr. Satan appears with his brown-colored outfit in the final front cover. This black outfit is also used as an alternative costume in video games such as Super Butoden 2.
3) DBZ 2 Super Battle version. The vest turns very blue, but there's also a faint blue tint to the white pants, appearing thanks to shadows. It is easily noticeable when comparing the white pants to other white sprites in the landscape.
4) Budokai 3 version. For the alternative outfit in this game, we have a dark leaf green vest with bright turquoise trousers.

REACUM:

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1) Anime version.
2) Dragon Ball Z (Arcade) version. You're not dreaming, and you probably never thought of it: Reacum has green hair for the alternate version of this video game. Note that the in-game version does not wear the armor, and it is unknown how it would be affected. The suit itself has a slight blue tint, ultimately making it a different grey than his original sprite.

SON GOHAN:

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1+2) Anime version.
3+4) Original Manga version. Toriyama still had Gohan wearing blue wrists like Goku. Gohan wears white socks, on the contrary of the anime.
5+6) Daizenshuu 199 version. Just for the duration of a title page for chapter 411. This time, Piccolo made Gohan's outfit blue like his wrists.
7+8) Kanzenban version. For all his Piccolo-based outfit, Toriyama used to draw him almost exclusively with a red belt, but blue wrists. Since the Kanzenban, it's all red, possibly to mimic Piccolo's natural red wrists. Gohan still has white socks though, unlike his anime equivalent.
9+10) Super Butoden 2 version. The alternative outfit for this Super NES video game has Gohan wearing purple that is so darkened and desaturated that it kinda looks like brown. The belt and wrists are blue like in the anime (while the regular outfit for the same game shows a red belt and blue wrists like the regular manga version).
11+12) DBZ 2 Super Battle version N°1. This video game can turn Gohan's Cell Game clothes into Goku's gi through a simple color switch. He does wear a cape though, and the shoes are those of Piccolo. This version was also used in Super Dragon Ball Z.
13+14) DBZ 2 Super Battle version N°2. An outfit that might have been initially conceived as black, but to the strong lighting on it, it actually ends up being darkish grey. The belt and wrists are also colored with a much darker and desaturated blue tint.
15+16) Burst Limit version. The alternative outfit for this game shows a turquoise oufit with red-with-a-subtle-hint-of-purple wrists and belt.

SON GOKU:

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1) Anime version.
2) Original Manga / Full-Color Manga version. Goku's most famous outfit is not red, but orange in the manga. Different tints of this orange, sometimes going to yellow, were used throughout the artworks. All in all, Goku is supposed to wear the monks' colors according to Toriyama in the Daizenshu interview.
3) DBZ 2 Super Battle version. For this video game's alternative costume, the gi is immaculate white, with just a slight blue tint (only visible on shadows) that makes it look all the more bright white. The blue under-clothes are also much darker. I find this version pretty interesting, it gives an idea of a western-style Goku, where his outfit forgets about Shaolin influences and becomes more of a Karate costume. Note that the Kame Sen symbol does not appear in-game.
4) Burst Limit version. The alternative outfit for this video game shows a reversed color scheme for Goku, inverting the blue and orange, although not necessarily in the same shades.

TRUNKS:

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1) Anime version.
2) Final Bout version. An alternative costume for this video games shows a T-shirt that could almost be confused as being white if it weren't for turquoise shadows, dark shorts with a slight desaturated blue tint and an orange ribbon around the boy's neck. Note that the vest does not appear in-game, and it is unknown how it would have been changed for that alternative version.

WEREMAN:

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1) Anime version.
2) Full-Color Manga version. The fur turns pretty much grey (little blue tint remaining), and the costume turns into a very dark red one.

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Re: Pictures color-corrected to fit various official version

Post by CaBrPi » Sat Feb 16, 2013 4:11 pm

I actually really like the white Goku costume.

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Re: Pictures color-corrected to fit various official version

Post by Cold Skin » Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:45 am

CaBrPi wrote:I actually really like the white Goku costume.
So do I, mister "Call a Bright response Preventing infamy" (sorry, felt like coming up with an explanation for your username!) :wink:

I think of it as a sort of a Western-inspired version of Goku, keeping the martial arts training vibe but not having buddhism influences (no orange), which would result in a white combat suit that is reminiscent of a typical white Karate costume.
That would be the equivalent I think, for example Goku showing up at the 2008 Special party with his orange gi would be translated in our Western "real world" culture as one of your friends showing up at a party with a Karategi, prompting you to say "so what, do you intend to fight here or something?" (Vegeta's line), while he would reply to you "you're wearing fighting clothes too" (Goku's line) because you wear your "Special Elite Force" army battle suit with chest protection (equivalent to our Western "real world" Saiyan armor) at a party too.

Yeah, I guess Goku's orange gi and Vegeta's Saiyan armor at the 2008 Special is like two guys showing up at a regular party, one with a Karategi, the other with his SWAT gear... Those guys are really obsessed by fighting, and this obsession seems to follow them even at a simple party between friends!

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Post by Raykugen » Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:21 pm

I always hate to see those old vectors, they're awful, I can't understand how could you like them to use on your work xD
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Re: Pictures color-corrected to fit various official version

Post by DNA » Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:41 pm

Raykugen wrote:I always hate to see those old vectors, they're awful, I can't understand how could you like them to use on your work xD
Some people are simply not as skilled as you. Cold Skin is doing the best he can and it's hard work, the images are simply an exercise to show off the colours for comparison instead of describing them and let us imagine it.
If you dislike it so much why don't you do the recolours yourself? Coming here and shitting on other peoples work is not helpful in any way.

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Re: Pictures color-corrected to fit various official version

Post by Cold Skin » Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:39 pm

No worries, I don't think he was attacking my recoloring of the pictures, more like the fact that I'm using those renders as a basis! :)
Raykugen already said in the "Character Project" thread that he grew to dislike those old vectors, finding them ugly in comparison to the new ones he and his teammates are working on! 8)

As far as I'm concerned, I find that they are more than enough and very handy!
Old or new (yeah, I keep an eye on the new packs at DeviantArt), most of them are really cool!
But I'm not as fascinated - nor expert - with drawings as others around here, so I can understand how he can be much more critical than me with those renders.

I find them pretty perfect, but then again, I find recent official Dragon Ball artworks as amazing as ever, so I'm really not the person you can ask about whether a drawing/render is good or not! :D

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Post by Raykugen » Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:08 am

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Raykugen wrote:I always hate to see those old vectors, they're awful, I can't understand how could you like them to use on your work xD
Some people are simply not as skilled as you. Cold Skin is doing the best he can and it's hard work, the images are simply an exercise to show off the colours for comparison instead of describing them and let us imagine it.
If you dislike it so much why don't you do the recolours yourself? Coming here and shitting on other peoples work is not helpful in any way.
I think you should pay more attention in what I wrote. I'm critizing my artworks, our vectors, we aren't proud about some old vectors, because they aren't too much good and I find strange that Coldskin could like them. I like his work, I'm not talking about his work, so calm down.

Cold Skin wrote:No worries, I don't think he was attacking my recoloring of the pictures, more like the fact that I'm using those renders as a basis! :)
Raykugen already said in the "Character Project" thread that he grew to dislike those old vectors, finding them ugly in comparison to the new ones he and his teammates are working on! 8)

As far as I'm concerned, I find that they are more than enough and very handy!
Old or new (yeah, I keep an eye on the new packs at DeviantArt), most of them are really cool!
But I'm not as fascinated - nor expert - with drawings as others around here, so I can understand how he can be much more critical than me with those renders.

I find them pretty perfect, but then again, I find recent official Dragon Ball artworks as amazing as ever, so I'm really not the person you can ask about whether a drawing/render is good or not! :D
Thank you so much, I'm working on new versions of Burtta, Reacum (3d version of the same image, LOL), Ginyu, Freeza 100% power and Kiwi linearts.
And be pretty sure that the tenkaichi styled Ohzaru wont be recycled xD
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Post by Attitudefan » Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:43 am

Are you going to add Goku's attire from Dragonball during the 23rd tournament?
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Re: Pictures color-corrected to fit various official version

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Raykugen wrote:I think you should pay more attention in what I wrote. I'm critizing my artworks, our vectors, we aren't proud about some old vectors, because they aren't too much good and I find strange that Coldskin could like them. I like his work, I'm not talking about his work, so calm down.
I think you should pay more attention to what you write because you've come across as rude more than once before.

Either way, even if Cold Skin were to use the new vectorized artworks, half the characters he needs aren't even done yet.
Attitudefan wrote:Are you going to add Goku's attire from Dragonball during the 23rd tournament?
This is a palette swap thread, not alternate outfit thread.

Anyway, I'm trying to do Ultimate Butouden now, laggy piece of shit. I think I need a stronger CPU :c
So help me out guys, which one should I go for? The "lobby" screen with the closer mirrored look or the in-game one with the further away full body? The second one allows me to showcase stages as well, but I can always do that later.
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DNA wrote:
Raykugen wrote:I think you should pay more attention in what I wrote. I'm critizing my artworks, our vectors, we aren't proud about some old vectors, because they aren't too much good and I find strange that Coldskin could like them. I like his work, I'm not talking about his work, so calm down.
I think you should pay more attention to what you write because you've come across as rude more than once before.
I think that if I am talking rude about myself is not your problem, or do you think I should have more love for myself?
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Raykugen wrote:I think that if I am talking rude about myself is not your problem, or do you think I should have more love for myself?
I'm not giving you a free psychological analysis over a forum, bro. Contact me via PM and we'll discuss a fee if that's what you want.

Anyway, jokes aside, you do come across as rude to others. You were referring to your work but the way you phrased things it sorta looked like you were bashing Cold Skin's work. And that's what I mean.

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DNA wrote:
Raykugen wrote:I think that if I am talking rude about myself is not your problem, or do you think I should have more love for myself?
I'm not giving you a free psychological analysis over a forum, bro. Contact me via PM and we'll discuss a fee if that's what you want.

Anyway, jokes aside, you do come across as rude to others. You were referring to your work but the way you phrased things it sorta looked like you were bashing Cold Skin's work. And that's what I mean.
That's your interpretation
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Raykugen wrote:That's your interpretation
Precisely my point. And if I interpret it like that, other people may interpret it that way too. If you leave your posts open to interpretation than you might be misunderstood. Hence why I said you should pay more attention to the way you write and be more precise so you won't leave your comments open to interpretation.

On-Topic: I found out Shin Butouden has different palette swaps from Ultimate Battle. It is also very laggy, will take some time.

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Post by Raykugen » Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:22 pm

DNA wrote:
Raykugen wrote:That's your interpretation
Precisely my point. And if I interpret it like that, other people may interpret it that way too. If you leave your posts open to interpretation than you might be misunderstood. Hence why I said you should pay more attention to the way you write and be more precise so you won't leave your comments open to interpretation.

On-Topic: I found out Shin Butouden has different palette swaps from Ultimate Battle. It is also very laggy, will take some time.
It was clearly about our project, and it was a message for Coldskin, so I'm glad that he understood it since the first moment.
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Raykugen wrote:It was clearly about our project, and it was a message for Coldskin, so I'm glad that he understood it since the first moment.
Except it wasn't clear at all since you didn't even mention the project at first, I didn't even notice that the renders he's using were yours to begin with. If it was clear, I wouldn't have misunderstood it.
And if the message was for Cold Skin you could and should have used the PM. That's what I do when I want to communicate with him directly, or anyone. That way no one could have misunderstood you and all this ridiculous discussion wouldn't take place at all. It's easy to avoid certain situations.

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Post by Attitudefan » Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:09 pm

This is a palette swap thread, not alternate outfit thread.
Except, it is a palette swap, especially with the picture used for Son.
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Post by DNA » Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:25 pm

Attitudefan wrote:
This is a palette swap thread, not alternate outfit thread.
Except, it is a palette swap, especially with the picture used for Son.
Okay I'm lost, I thought you were talking about the outfit he appears in, with the turban and umbrella...

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Post by Attitudefan » Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:12 pm

No.... haha. I meant his dougi he wore at the end of DB where it was red, black, and had the yellow inside the symbol.
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