Goku's mother...appearing soon?!

[Adamant]

Seems like Toriyama wants to portrait Bardock as someone who could love, and did love a woman, Gine... But I'm not sure how he can reconcile that with Bardock not giving a single s*** about their sons Raditz and Kakarot

Why not? Just because someone is capable of developing compassion for others doesn't mean they automatically must have compassion for their offspring, especially when their culture has no tradition for parents interacting with their children at all.

[B]

What you mean? Why can't Chilled be born? It is cause of his statement about Freeza and Cold's power? To be fair. Chilled isn't all that strong.

The interview at the very least implies Cold and Freeza are the only members of their "race" and aren't born through normal reproductive means; "Freeza's race" is even in quotes.

If we can put an end to "the Changeling race" I suppose I'm on board with it, but Dragon Ball Heroes has thrown around the term "Freeza Clan"...

[crisis]

I think Bardock didn't care for Kakarot simply because of his low power level (was it 2?). Had Goku been born with, lets say, a PL of 10 or above, he might've been more "attached." Who knows.

[Hellspawn28]

It won't surprise me that Bardock always view Radditz as his perfect son.

[JulieYBM]

I can't wait for the OVA with the 10 mid-class warriors who go on an adventure, all become Super Saiyans, head back to Vegeta to celebrate, and are wiped out by Freeza's blast. Or, 9 warriors, I guess, since Nappa is most likely one of them?

DIdn't even register that this new information on Freeza more or less undoes Episode of Bardock. Chilled(and Coola, but you know, movies) technically cannot exist now, right?

Chilled might not exist within the continuity described in that interview, but he does exist within the continuities that he does exist in. This interview simply might very well be a continuity in which Chilled does not exist.

[JeffJarrett]

Same reason he gave Nappa a Japanese vegetable pun: because...well, why wouldn't he? There's no big rule saying Saiyans should be named after the English words for vegetables, despite what some people seem to think.

Napa or Nappa cabbage is a name used in English. The name pun for Gine isn't confirmed, it can be Aubergine or Negi or even something else. Toriyama usually uses Vegetable names in English for Saiyans, if he did the same thing for Gine, then it's Aubergine. But he didn't revealed the name pun for Gine yet, so we don't know on which one it is based.

[Fizzer]

If it came from aubergine, wouldn't it be more like ジーン (Jiin) than ぎね (Gine) ?

[dbgtFO]

I find it silly, that Toriyama suggests Bardock can still be revived. Surely he must have been reincarnated by now?
I would like to know how the Dragon Balls would revive him, if that was true.

[crisis]

More silly than having anthropomorphic animals and dinosaurs living alongside humans and beans that restores ones energy in a couple of seconds and 3-inch capsules transforming into giant hovercars?

[dbgtFO]

Come on now. It's obvious that most of DB is silly or a better term unrealistic, but in regards to its own vaguely established rules and logic of how life after death works it seems weird or silly even, that Bardock could possibly be revived.
Because that raises questions in regards to how long after one's death does one get reincarnated(Boo was within a year most probably, but he could be deemed a special case) and can Shenlong revive people, even though their souls now occupy a different body?

[DBZGTKOSDH]

We had Good Saiyans in BoG.

... And in most of the manga/anime.

. WHO? Besides the one(Vegeta) Goku influence or Earth made him good. What Saiyan was good in the manga? Tarble was the first(I think) good Saiyan to appear. I honestly think he was good because of the yin yang Goku and Vegeta have.

Goku - Pure
Raditz - Cold
Vegeta - Cold
Tarble - Pure.

Goku is a good guy in 99,9% of the series, and Vegeta is also technically a good guy for most of the series.

[TheGmGoken]

Goku is a good guy in 99,9% of the series, and Vegeta is also technically a good guy for most of the series.

What's the .1 of the series when Goku is...neutral...or bad. I'm talking more or less about how they were originally. As in Vegeta was an evil asshole dick who deserved to die was he debut. And Goku was a bad baby! But he hit his head. I'm not talking about after they had a change of heart.

[Makaioshin]

I find it silly, that Toriyama suggests Bardock can still be revived. Surely he must have been reincarnated by now?
I would like to know how the Dragon Balls would revive him, if that was true.

It is possible that Bardock earned himself a body and is just resting in Heaven. He did kinda save the Plant people.
Also, maybe Toriyama just forgot the rules.

[dbzfan7]

So what happened to the "Saiyans have the same life span as humans but keep in their peak longer"...is that retconned to Saiyans live longer than humans, but still not that long.

[TheGmGoken]

So what happened to the "Saiyans have the same life span as humans but keep in their peak longer"...is that retconned to Saiyans live longer than humans, but still not that long.

Well, it's easy enough to combine and reconcile the two. So Saiyans can live a little longer than humans, but not drastically so. If an average DB human lives to a hundred, then an average Saiyan lives to 110 or 120. As opposed to, say, Namekians who live for several centuries.

Guess that COULD work. But I don't know. Seems like Toriyama is just blurting things out now. Which isn't bad to some. Just quite annoying to me.

[Kaboom]

The Saiyan and human lifespan thing reminds me of what Toriyama's said about the Saibaimen and Raditz's battle powers. They're "the same" in that they're pretty similar and close, but one is still observably greater than the other. In the same vein, humans and Saiyans have "about" the same lifespan, but Saiyans tend to live a little longer on average (unless they're killed in battle).

[Fizzer]

I prefer the idea that Saiyans live longer than humans, rather than go through a period of rapid ageing when they get old.

[hleV]

I prefer the idea that Saiyans live longer than humans, rather than go through a period of rapid ageing when they get old.

But they do age rapidly when they get old enough, just that their natural lifespan is still somewhat longer than that of humans.

[dbgtFO]

I find it silly, that Toriyama suggests Bardock can still be revived. Surely he must have been reincarnated by now?
I would like to know how the Dragon Balls would revive him, if that was true.

It is possible that Bardock earned himself a body and is just resting in Heaven. He did kinda save the Plant people.
Also, maybe Toriyama just forgot the rules.

Yeah, that's the only way it'd make sense.

[RandomGuy96]

Q: About how high was Bardock’s battle power, ultimately? (In Episode of Bardock) Also, if he hadn’t been defeated by Freeza and had continued his growth, about how strong would he have gotten?

A:To be honest, I haven’t thought it through that far, but Bardock is a low-class warrior. Although even saying that, almost all [Saiyans] were low-class warriors, and there were only about 10 mid-class warriors. And when you get to the elite warriors, there’s only King Vegeta and Prince Vegeta. Bardock is in the upper ranks as far as low-class warriors go, but he isn’t able to become a mid-class warrior.
This rank is determined by an innate latent battle power, but naturally, if their battle power rises greatly afterward, they can be promoted.

This one just confuses me. Weren't Vegeta and King Vegeta super-elites, not elites? Elites were a much weaker class that included such folks as Nappa, so it can't just be those two. Or maybe he confused elite and mid-class?

I also like how Toriyama, despite seemingly going out of his way to avoid actually answering this question, still gave enough information to declare the Bardock special's rating of him as out of continuity. Bardock can't be close to 10,000 and thus much stronger than Nappa and probably kid Vegeta if he would get promoted based on his battle power, and if he isn't able to become a mid-class warrior based on that.