Dragon Ball Super in Portugal

[sangofe]

What bloody nonsense. Kick him out!

He's pandering those who want this sort of stuff (i.e: the vocal crowd). It's not the actor's fault, it's the people who ask for it and the dub director for letting this happen.

It's his fault for doing it and not acting properly... Saying anything else is bullshit.

[DB_Fan1991]

What bloody nonsense. Kick him out!

He's pandering those who want this sort of stuff (i.e: the vocal crowd). It's not the actor's fault, it's the people who ask for it and the dub director for letting this happen.

It's precisely this. There has to be someone in the studio to say "no" to the guy. And he was thrashed in the Facebook's fan page today and with good reason. The cringe was so much that I turned off the TV.

Sad to see the Portuguese dub declining in quality 8 episodes in.

[FortuneSSJ]

Loy is getting trashed on facebook. A lot of people are complaining about his stupid performance, as Vegeta.
All his other characters, Piccolo and Shu for example, are perfect. When it comes to Vegeta, he starts acting like a clown, because in his little bubble Dragon Ball was only success here because of their portuguese jokes and he can't let it go.

It's not even funny and some people are already giving up on Super dubbed, because one single voice actor is taking everything down.

It makes everything worse when Loy himself comes to facebook and say he won't change his behavior. How do you expect people to react to this arrogance?!
All the other voices actors are doing their best. Feist already start doing his Kid Trunks voice, it's not 100% there, but it works and its much better than he using his Adult Trunks voice.

Beerus and Whis are the stars of the show. They are critically acclaimed, even by the hardcore fans who follow Super subbed.
Loy's Vegeta is the only black sheep.

[alakazam^]

I missed today's episode but that clip... wow... just horrible.

I have no idea what's wrong with him, he used to be a good Vegeta... He could still force his nonsense adlibs but not act like Vegeta was an obnoxious punk.

[SaintEvolution]

Well, til I know, João Loy had did this kind of crap before:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZJ_P1DhGrw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnRgPN-ECB4

So, I'm not that surprised.

[Luso Saiyan]

It seems SIC removed the previous episodes from its site.

Episode 7

Episode 8

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Loy is getting trashed on facebook. A lot of people are complaining about his stupid performance, as Vegeta.

The same people who wanted the jokes back? Ha, careful with what you wish for, you might just get it.

It's only a shame that kids are stuck with this as their Dragon Ball.

[Rubens]

Well, til I know, João Loy had did this kind of crap before:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZJ_P1DhGrw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnRgPN-ECB4

So, I'm not that surprised.

Not to mention his perfomance in GT. When he was announced as Vegeta's voice I was expecting this already aswell... too bad Vegeta is a central character in Super and we'll have to put up with this whenever he fights (and did Loy start singing "Jardim da Celeste"...? It's a children's singalong I'm case you're wondering).

I've noticed that "Beerus's using 10%" line wasn't mentioned. Was it removed from the script or dismissed by the dub?

[alakazam^]

Not to mention his perfomance in GT. When he was announced as Vegeta's voice I was expecting this already aswell... too bad Vegeta is a central character in Super and we'll have to put up with this whenever he fights (and did Loy start singing "Jardim da Celeste"...? It's a children's singalong I'm case you're wondering).

He did, that's why he said "this is an old one" because he sang it back in the day as well.

[sangofe]

Not to mention his perfomance in GT. When he was announced as Vegeta's voice I was expecting this already aswell... too bad Vegeta is a central character in Super and we'll have to put up with this whenever he fights (and did Loy start singing "Jardim da Celeste"...? It's a children's singalong I'm case you're wondering).

He did, that's why he said "this is an old one" because he sang it back in the day as well.

God damn, how can people tolerate this crap?

[alakazam^]

Nostalgia is a really strong power but it seems people won't be quiet about this anymore.

[UltimateHammerBro]

Oh wow.

I'm really sorry for this. I'd watched some of the Portuguese dub and liked it, but Loy's Vegeta was too much for me.
Spoken Portuguese (even worse if spoken fast) is too much for me, but I understood a bit when he was training and said something along the lines of "I'll be stronger than Kakarot. No! I'll be stronger than anybody!". The problem wasn't really about the line, but he delivered it like he were a child having a tantrum

Feist's Goku still sounds awesome to my ears

[omegalucas]

Wendel Bezerra (Goku's Brazilian voice actor) has a video reacting to the first episode of the English dub.
It's quite amusing to watch the Brazilian Goku trying to imitate a bit of the Portuguese voices xD

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DZMm0LYMEw0

[Cure Dragon 255]

Wendel Bezerra (Goku's Brazilian voice actor) has a video reacting to the first episode of the English dub.
It's quite amusing to watch the Brazilian Goku trying to imitate a bit of the Portuguese voices xD

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DZMm0LYMEw0

I know Funimation was kind of infamous, but dont default them for everything bad! LOL!

I think you mean Portuguese of Portugal dub LOL.

[omegalucas]

Yes I did. Sorry. I was writing in English, that's probably the reason of my mistake xD

[Quebaz]

Well, til I know, João Loy had did this kind of crap before:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZJ_P1DhGrw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnRgPN-ECB4

So, I'm not that surprised.

It's like, yeah he did things like this before, but the context of scenes are very different, not to mention the overall performance was leagues better in Z and GT compared to Super. Even in that Freeza scene (the fuck is up with the audio on that, blew my ears),yeah he says "Come on now that tickles" once, but he actually sounds like he's in pain there and plays it straight for the rest of the scene. Ginyu tho? Dude got it in the bag, he can be as cocky as he wants.

In Super he just doesn't sound like what you expect of Vegeta, ever, he managed to check list every "pearl" he used back in Z in a 2 minute fight scene with context that doesn't justify them at all.

[FortuneSSJ]

From what I heard Toei was really restricted with our Sailor Moon Crystal dub, so how it's possible in 2016 Loy still be able to do something like that in Super?
Back then it was common to have jokes in other dubbed animes here. Saint Seiya and Sailor Moon had it too.

Nowadays the dubs seem to be more serious, Super is the only exception with our voice actors living in the past.
Still, like SMC I expected Toei to not let them have their way.

When you think about what they are doing, dubbing Kai would be pointless because they would just joke again, instead of doing something serious and professional.

Anyone know how were the DB Kai subbed ratings on SIC Radical? Some people were disappointed because it wasn't dubbed, other were pleased.
No idea how the ratings were.

[alakazam^]

Wendel Bezerra (Goku's Brazilian voice actor) has a video reacting to the first episode of the English dub.
It's quite amusing to watch the Brazilian Goku trying to imitate a bit of the Portuguese voices xD

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DZMm0LYMEw0

That was interesting. That guy was a good sport and very fair, it seemed.

I'm happy to say Super has been picking up ratings wise, which was kinda expected since the fighting started. I wonder if Loy's performance will hurt future episodes but maybe not since it's also possible people will tune in just to see if anything else was ruined.

Ratings for episode 5
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Ratings for episode 7
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Ratings for episode 8
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Feist, at the NEP, started doing a kind of homage to António Semedo, a former cast member and their past acting director, who has died in 2005. I have to be that guy and say I don't like it. I understand the context, I understand it comes from a good place in their hearts and I understand it's "nice" but I don't think it has a place in an official product. I don't know if it will a staple of Super but even if it was only done once or twice, they have to remember this is a product meant to air on TV, probably reruns as well. They won't have the chance to redub Super again so they need to stick to the actual story the first time they do it and not jeopardize it with homages and references that don't belong in the story. Saying the phrase Semedo said in the old dub is enough, Feist doesn't need to mention his name.

We're 8 episodes in and there's no turning back. Loy's performance is the one we'll be getting each time we see episode 8 and they shouldn't forget this. I don't mind them having fun once in a while but I don't want to hear their crap in the final version of the dub.

[UltimateHammerBro]

Feist, at the NEP, started doing a kind of homage to António Semedo, a former cast member and their past acting director, who has died in 2005. I have to be that guy and say I don't like it. I understand the context, I understand it comes from a good place in their hearts and I understand it's "nice" but I don't think it has a place in an official product. I don't know if it will a staple of Super but even if it was only done once or twice, they have to remember this is a product meant to air on TV, probably reruns as well. They won't have the chance to redub Super again so they need to stick to the actual story the first time they do it and not jeopardize it with homages and references that don't belong in the story. Saying the phrase Semedo said in the old dub is enough, Feist doesn't need to mention his name.

What was the homage? I remember hearing Feist saying Semedo's sentence, it was quite poignant IMO.

[alakazam^]

What was the homage? I remember hearing Feist saying Semedo's sentence, it was quite poignant IMO.

António Semedo played the narrator and he came up with the sentence "Não percam o próximo episódio porque nós também não (Don't miss the next episode because neither will we)", which became a staple of the dub and the culture in general, so much so that it still gets referenced these days in non-Dragon Ball context.

In Super they say the same thing, which is totally fine, but, in the past couple episodes, Feist, who narrates the preview for the next episode as Goku, added something like "in the words of the super warrior Semedo: don't miss the next episode because neither will we!"

Like I said, I understand why he did it because António Semedo was a close friend to many of the cast members and a generally well-liked guy but I feel it has no place in the product itself. Just repeating his sentence would get the point across, I think.

[UltimateHammerBro]

In Super they say the same thing, which is totally fine, but, in the past couple episodes, Feist, who narrates the preview for the next episode as Goku, added something like "in the words of the super warrior Semedo: don't miss the next episode because neither will we!"

Oh wow. I mean, I get the point of using the sentence and I really like it, but that bit... I think it has reached "cat loves food yeah yeah yeah" levels