Dragon Ball Z: Cooler Double Feature Discussion

BrollysKin · Post by **BrollysKin** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:39 pm

That's what I was saying. I just think it's silly arguing over what form of screencaps people are taking.

Even after people take all the screenshots in the same way, if the person still doesn't like the one you like, more than likely we'll be hearing about how we haven't seen it in person so it doesn't really count.

Yi Xing Long · Post by **Yi Xing Long** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:54 pm

BrollysKin wrote:That's what I was saying. I just think it's silly arguing over what form of screencaps people are taking.

Even after people take all the screenshots in the same way, if the person still doesn't like the one you like, more than likely we'll be hearing about how we haven't seen it in person so it doesn't really count.

You really cannot judge something from a screenshot. You have to view it on a proper display. I think these screenshot comparisons are rather pointless because of that.

BrollysKin · Post by **BrollysKin** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:05 pm

Right, I agree, so why argue over jpg/png? I could see a purpose behind nlooking at them to get an idea of how it will look, but nobody should be pouring hours into thinking about it.

Gozar · Post by **Gozar** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:56 pm

Acid_Reign wrote:Look at specific details one after the other on both screenshots and tell me there’s “no loss of detail.” There is no such thing as removing grain without also removing detail in automated processing. The colors are relatively similar, but they are not as close to the originals as they should be: the whites are too purple, the browns are too orange, and the greens are too blue. Even without considering which one is the original and which one is redone, I can not honestly say that the color scheme on the FUNi shot looks more appealing.

I'm really baffled by this. I don't see anything you're talking about in that cap aside from added brightness.

“Excellence.” Right…

Well he is behind a big light after all. Hell it gives a more "in the movie" feel if you see it as Goku likely would.

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:03 pm

Gozar wrote:Well he is behind a big light after all. Hell it gives a more "in the movie" feel if you see it as Goku likely would.

I don't think it's supposed to be to the point where you can hardly see Coola.

Gozar · Post by **Gozar** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:06 pm

Tsukento wrote:
Gozar wrote:Well he is behind a big light after all. Hell it gives a more "in the movie" feel if you see it as Goku likely would.
I don't think it's supposed to be to the point where you can hardly see Coola.

Come on now. I can see him just fine.

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:08 pm

Gozar wrote:Come on now. I can see him just fine.

Screenshot on the computer ain't anything compared to seeing it on a TV. Especially if you happen to watch it with the lights dimmed or off.

Gozar · Post by **Gozar** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:09 pm

Tsukento wrote:
Gozar wrote:Come on now. I can see him just fine.
Screenshot on the computer ain't anything compared to seeing it on a TV. Especially if you happen to watch it with the lights dimmed or off.

But I (finally) did watch it.

SSJ2bardock · Post by **SSJ2bardock** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:18 pm

Gozar wrote:
Tsukento wrote:
Gozar wrote:Come on now. I can see him just fine.
Screenshot on the computer ain't anything compared to seeing it on a TV. Especially if you happen to watch it with the lights dimmed or off.
But I (finally) did watch it.

I've gotta agree with Gozar, there's nothing wrong with the visual quality of this feature.

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:35 pm

Hmm, I'm watching my Dead Zone/World's Strongest remastered set, and I love the look of it. Can't wait to buy the rest, and i hope the Cooler set is like this one.

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:38 pm

SSJ2bardock wrote:I've gotta agree with Gozar, there's nothing wrong with the visual quality of this feature.

While the brighter colors are nice, they tend to become oversaturated at points.

Dragon Box
Double Feature

Dragon Box
Double Feature

Colors get changed and details get lost. Notice how in the first shot, the ground is brown in the Dragon Box. Yet the Double Feature pulls a green color out of no where. Not only this, but it's so dark that part of the ground becomes a black color, while Goku's hair becomes almost invisible.

The dark red in Goku's Kaio-ken in the Double Feature ends up drowning out quite a bit of outlining.

bkev · Post by **bkev** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:17 pm

The dragonbox looks better in those particular shots; but both look like I could easily watch them without nitpicking.

Gozar · Post by **Gozar** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:12 pm

Tsukento wrote:
SSJ2bardock wrote:I've gotta agree with Gozar, there's nothing wrong with the visual quality of this feature.
While the brighter colors are nice, they tend to become oversaturated at points.

Dragon Box
Double Feature

Dragon Box
Double Feature

Colors get changed and details get lost. Notice how in the first shot, the ground is brown in the Dragon Box. Yet the Double Feature pulls a green color out of no where. Not only this, but it's so dark that part of the ground becomes a black color, while Goku's hair becomes almost invisible.

The dark red in Goku's Kaio-ken in the Double Feature ends up drowning out quite a bit of outlining.

Ah, I see what you mean. I guess I shouldn't have gone on just the comparisons I saw here (Which were pretty spot on). Yeah now I understand where you're coming from. I still like the Double Feature...But in the overall picture. The DBOX wins. I should make sure to go onto MFG and compare shots on my own (Like I did with the Movies 1-4 DF's) before I form an opinion, lol.

SSJ2bardock · Post by **SSJ2bardock** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:31 pm

I see what you mean with the loss of detail, but the brighter colors and removal of grain outweighs that for me.

LeprikanGT · Post by **LeprikanGT** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:21 pm

Why was the trailer for movies 7/9 not in the cooler double feature?

SSJ Helldog · Post by **SSJ Helldog** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:06 pm

My guess is that the decision to pair those movies together wasn't made until after the discs went to (print?)

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:08 am

LeprikanGT wrote:Why was the trailer for movies 7/9 not in the cooler double feature?

Better question is how are they going to make a 3 DVD steelbook work?

BrollysKin · Post by **BrollysKin** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:18 am

Raki wrote:
LeprikanGT wrote:Why was the trailer for movies 7/9 not in the cooler double feature?
Better question is how are they going to make a 3 DVD steelbook work?

The Bluray wouldn't be a problem, that should all fit right?

LeprikanGT · Post by **LeprikanGT** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:22 am

#1. i hate that they broke the movies up like that.
#2. they could have had 3 steel cases and used 2 other movie chars then broly for the 3.

I'm thinking the 3rd disc will go in the left side of the steel case and the leaflet in the middle like the DragonBall sets?

Gozar · Post by **Gozar** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:27 am

LeprikanGT wrote:I'm thinking the 3rd disc will go in the left side of the steel case and the leaflet in the middle like the DragonBall sets?

Well that's not so terrible. Atleast I won't have to take out a Top disc to get to a bottom one as with the DF's and Season Sets.