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A lot of people seem to like the action in the Buu arc better in the anime, although this is the first time I've seen people prefer the dub version for it.
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To prefer the ENglish dub of the fight then yes(I prefer it for the trash talking). To prefer the anime version then no. Anime Boo Arc > Manga Boo Arc IMHO. In terms of fighting and LOGICAL dialog(Majin Vegeta was awesome with filler dialog)Is it unpopular to prefer the English dub of that fight? Or the anime version as opposed to the manga version?
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Well, not the whole dub. It wouldn't be fair of me to make that judgement, since I've only seen a little of the Buu arc subbed. Just that one specific fight.Kid Buu wrote:A lot of people seem to like the action in the Buu arc better in the anime, although this is the first time I've seen people prefer the dub version for it.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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'RandomGuy96 wrote:Well, not the whole dub. It wouldn't be fair of me to make that judgement, since I've only seen a little of the Buu arc subbed. Just that one specific fight.Kid Buu wrote:A lot of people seem to like the action in the Buu arc better in the anime, although this is the first time I've seen people prefer the dub version for it.
To be fair. Sabat NAILED Majin Vegeta. I honestly preferred Sabat over Ryo. During Majin Vegeta's moments.
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This one's more minor, but I think Lord Slug is stronger than 100% Freeza.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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What does he say in the Sub Version instead of the Trunks line and the hold your hand line?
Edit: Just watched it, doesnt say anything in the sub!
Edit: Just watched it, doesnt say anything in the sub!
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Most people I've come accross tend to prefer Pure/Kid Buu or Gohan Buu. As for his potentially augmented intelligence, I guess he didn't really have an opportunity to put it to the test. Then again, he didn't seem all that cunning facing Vegetto.RandomGuy96 wrote:Is that really unpopular? Anyway, Gotenks-Buu is seemingly no smarter or dumber than Super Buu, just more eloquent.
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I'm not getting where you're thinking he augmented his intelligence. Super Buu seems fairly crafty both before and after he starts absorbing people. He absorbed one moron and one person of average intelligence, so he wouldn't gain much if he did at all.TheOverlyMadHatter wrote:Most people I've come accross tend to prefer Pure/Kid Buu or Gohan Buu. As for his potentially augmented intelligence, I guess he didn't really have an opportunity to put it to the test. Then again, he didn't seem all that cunning facing Vegetto.RandomGuy96 wrote:Is that really unpopular? Anyway, Gotenks-Buu is seemingly no smarter or dumber than Super Buu, just more eloquent.
He actually was decent there, what with duping Vegetto into getting hit by the Candy Beam and going out of his way to prevent Goku and Vegeta from fusing, but it just so happened that Vegetto can pull abilities out of his ass whenever he wants, and Toriyama doesn't care at all about consistent speed for his characters. Oh, and he keeps forgetting about abilities he previously gave his villains.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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I found Gohan_Boo overrated. Honestly unlike Super Boo and Buutenks he wasn't as fun. He was just a punching bag. Even when he was "winning" he wasn't as funny. Pure Boo is decent. Not bad or good. But I'll give props for him blowing up Earth randomly
. I think we know why Cell Arc was boring. Freeza arc even had gag moments. Cell arc was a little to boring and medicore. I guess that's why you never take Goku out of main spotlight(Face it. Even when Goku wasn't on the screen. He was the spotlight in Boo and Freeza arc) for too long. It gets boring.
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...I still don't see the need to differentiate Super Buu, Buutenks, and Buuhan. They're the same person.TheGmGoken wrote:I found Gohan_Boo overrated. Honestly unlike Super Boo and Buutenks he wasn't as fun. He was just a punching bag. Even when he was "winning" he wasn't as funny. Pure Boo is decent. Not bad or good. But I'll give props for him blowing up Earth randomly. I think we know why Cell Arc was boring. Freeza arc even had gag moments. Cell arc was a little to boring and medicore. I guess that's why you never take Goku out of main spotlight(Face it. Even when Goku wasn't on the screen. He was the spotlight in Boo and Freeza arc) for too long. It gets boring.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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The way they act. When you have Super Boo who was you know was funny/gaggy with a gag character like Gotenks. He reminds the same if not more trollish. When Boo-han came he was outshined by Vegetto. So perhaps we didn't get to se his "Gag" side as much. As Vegetto's beatdown pretty much ruined Boo's gags honestly.RandomGuy96 wrote:...I still don't see the need to differentiate Super Buu, Buutenks, and Buuhan. They're the same person.TheGmGoken wrote:I found Gohan_Boo overrated. Honestly unlike Super Boo and Buutenks he wasn't as fun. He was just a punching bag. Even when he was "winning" he wasn't as funny. Pure Boo is decent. Not bad or good. But I'll give props for him blowing up Earth randomly. I think we know why Cell Arc was boring. Freeza arc even had gag moments. Cell arc was a little to boring and medicore. I guess that's why you never take Goku out of main spotlight(Face it. Even when Goku wasn't on the screen. He was the spotlight in Boo and Freeza arc) for too long. It gets boring.
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That seemed to be part of the plan.Personally, to me, Vegetto was very arrogant
GMGoken, I get that Nam has the sob story, but I still don't think that makes him the most deserving. In fact, having the one with the sob story not win was surprising to an extent.
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I think the best arc in Dragon Ball Parts 1 or 2 is Red Ribbon. As depicted in the anime of course with a much more fleshed out Colonel Silver and Violet.
Don't get me wrong, I think King Piccolo was suitably dramatic and intense and set the groundwork for everything to come later. It's just that...it set the groundwork for everything to come later. I like RR in that it was more in-line with the original series' tone. It also had a much more substantial cast of characters so even though Kp is better than any single one of them, they as a whole win out.
My favorite fight is Goku vs. Tenshinhan at the 22nd Budokai.
I do not want Dragon Ball Kai. No, no, no, no, no. I don't even see the need for one for an updated English dub.
Don't get me wrong, I think King Piccolo was suitably dramatic and intense and set the groundwork for everything to come later. It's just that...it set the groundwork for everything to come later. I like RR in that it was more in-line with the original series' tone. It also had a much more substantial cast of characters so even though Kp is better than any single one of them, they as a whole win out.
My favorite fight is Goku vs. Tenshinhan at the 22nd Budokai.
I do not want Dragon Ball Kai. No, no, no, no, no. I don't even see the need for one for an updated English dub.
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But he would still kill his sons & friend. Even though death is rarely permanent in DB, they never act like nothing important happened, they still take it as if it's a big deal.RandomGuy96 wrote:It failed because he didn't kill Buu. They could have wished everyone back later.
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Why not? What's so bad about giving them a chance to get it right?I don't even see the need for one for an updated English dub.
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I don't see the big deal. They're not even conscious when inside Buu, and the Afterlife is a relatively nice place. Plus, they wouldn't be there long, and Goku was plenty willing to let Buu kill people under the justification that he could bring them back before.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:But he would still kill his sons & friend. Even though death is rarely permanent in DB, they never act like nothing important happened, they still take it as if it's a big deal.RandomGuy96 wrote:It failed because he didn't kill Buu. They could have wished everyone back later.
But nope. He goes with a dumb plan that results in him defusing and Buu holding all the cards again. It required yet ANOTHER ass pull (there are a ton of these after Potara is introduced) for the heroes to not all immediately die.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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No it wasn't. He was just some minor character with a backstory. Who didn't know Roshi or Goku was winning?ABED wrote:That seemed to be part of the plan.Personally, to me, Vegetto was very arrogant
GMGoken, I get that Nam has the sob story, but I still don't think that makes him the most deserving. In fact, having the one with the sob story not win was surprising to an extent.
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Often the guy with the sob story wins, and he obviously didn't need to win in order to get what he was truly after.
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Not when the guy with the sob story is a minor character that we'll never see again in the manga. Especially when the main character is in the Tenkaichi Budokai along with his master. Seriously anyone who thought Nam was winning must never watched fiction before.ABED wrote:Often the guy with the sob story wins, and he obviously didn't need to win in order to get what he was truly after.
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TheGmGoken wrote:Not when the guy with the sob story is a minor character that we'll never see again in the manga. Especially when the main character is in the Tenkaichi Budokai along with his master. Seriously anyone who thought Nam was winning must never watched fiction before.ABED wrote:Often the guy with the sob story wins, and he obviously didn't need to win in order to get what he was truly after.
I was responding to this. I know he was a minor character, wasn't the point I was making. Obviously if he did win, the story would require changes, like how Tenshinhan won.I know because of plot this could't happen but.
I wanted Nam to beat Goku and Jackie Chun. Thus winning the Tenkaichi Budokai. He deserved it the most IMHO.
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