"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Luso Saiyan]

We know more than enough to determine if pink is an appropriate color,

We do? What exactly do we know? And how does that make a pinkish hue inappropriate?

[Doctor.]

So unless you think that Black and Zamasu are secretly effeminate, I'm just not going to agree with you.

Black is pretty effeminate and delicate though.

[TheShadowEmperor8055]

We know more than enough to determine if pink is an appropriate color,

We do? What exactly do we know? And how does that make a pinkish hue inappropriate?

Personally, I still want to see how "Super Saiyan Rose" plays out and whether or not it's a godly transformation like SSB. And it ain't like pink is the worst possible color. Again, better than the whole white hair Goku Black I've been seeing a lot in fanon. That just contradicts his name being the opposite color and reminds me too much of Baby Vegeta... ugh Jesus.

And the argument that "Oh, Natsu has pink hair, Buu is pink, Doflamingo wears pink" is flawed because all three of those characters were introduced as having pink in their appearance from the beginning. Not Black. It's not the color that's the issue for me, it's the change. For instance, if Trunks' hair was blue from the beginning, it wouldn't have caused the controversy it is now. It's the fact that Trunks was introduced with purple hair, then changed to blue hair that causes contention. Same with Black changing to pink hair. The change is what's bothersome, not really the color pink itself in my opinion. Otherwise, I wouldn't think Doflamingo was all that scary, and I consider him to be quite a scary figure. I mean, if Black had some pink in his initial design (akin to Mingo, Buu, Natsu, etc), it wouldn't have made him less foreboding to me, and I wouldn't of had a problem with it. Again, it's the sudden change the is causing contention from what I see. But could be wrong and some could just have a problem with pink in general.

Personally, I liked Goku Black's initial appearance so much that I didn't want any color change from him, not even seeing him go regular yellow Super Saiyan. Hell, I would have thrown a hissy fit if his hair changed to green. I understand that DB is a series with a lot of transformations but still....

I'm positive this arc will be longer than all the previous ones, somewhere in the range of 25 episodes sounds about right to me.

I hope so. Notice how Black is learning to fight more like Goku after battling him. Perhaps SSB Goku dominates Goku Black with his SSR transformation, but Goku doesn't finish him off, and Goku Black comes back even stronger than before.

[Kanassa]

On the subject of Goku use, aside from fighting Black... What has Goku done plot-wise?
He has nothing to do with repairing the time machine, he has nothing to do with training or motivating Trunks, Whis and Beerus handled everything in Universe 10. And We can't really count him pissing off Zamazu until we see how it fits into the plot.

[dbzfan7]

So unless you think that Black and Zamasu are secretly effeminate, I'm just not going to agree with you.

Black is pretty effeminate and delicate though.

So much so he took on Goku's form to be closer to his husbando. He wanted blue hair originally, but was so crazy he got yandere pink. I believe he will catch his senpai yet, even if he has to kill him to keep him away from others.

[Boo Machine]

Black is barely a character yet. How do you know what he thinks and feels and should represent?

You're either projecting onto him, or... I have no idea.

Pink isn't out of place in Fairy Tale, so why would it be an issue in Dragon Ball?

We know more than enough to determine if pink is an appropriate color, especially considering that Zamasu's personality is basically his as well. It's one thing to have a natural pink hair color (like Natsu, maybe Trunks) and another thing entirely for a hyped up well known transformation to be based around the color pink. He's not effeminate like Doflamingo from One Piece, and he's not childlike like Buu, so I fail to see why pink would be an appropriate color for his all-powerful transformation. White would have gone better with his outfit and made a great contrast with his name "Black" as well as match Zamasu's hair color. It would be almost as weird as Vegeta turning Super Saiyan Rose with his RoF outfit and turning into a giant pink Teletubby.

So unless you think that Black and Zamasu are secretly effeminate, I'm just not going to agree with you.

I'm a little confused about what the characters personalities have to do with the color of the transformation. As far as I'm aware of, that has never been a factor or everyones SSJ transformation would be a different color.

I'm also not really sure why the character has to be effeminate to have pink on them. Do we have similar requirements for the other colors? Does the character have to be masculine for blue?
Because if so Whis is the wrong color.

[Anime Kitten]

There's a reason I stopped being involved in the pink hair conversation. I would advise you all to do the same.

Anyway, about the female SSJs, that's what I want Post-EOZ for. So they can retell GT and give Pan a Super Saiyan form. Because, SSJ Baby Pan would be a bit weird to me. Maybe for a split-second, just so we know she has the form.

[ArchedThunder]

There's a reason I stopped being involved in the pink hair conversation. I would advise you all to do the same.

Anyway, about the female SSJs, that's what I want Post-EOZ for. So they can retell GT and give Pan a Super Saiyan form. Because, SSJ Baby Pan would be a bit weird to me. Maybe for a split-second, just so we know she has the form.

If/When we go past end of Z I don't want them to retell GT, I want totally new stories.

[Anime Kitten]

If/When we go past end of Z I don't want them to retell GT, I want totally new stories.

I said that mostly because I do not want a new Pan design, unless it's Teen Pan (whereas GT LOOKS LIKE a tween).

[dbzfan7]

There's a reason I stopped being involved in the pink hair conversation. I would advise you all to do the same.

Anyway, about the female SSJs, that's what I want Post-EOZ for. So they can retell GT and give Pan a Super Saiyan form. Because, SSJ Baby Pan would be a bit weird to me. Maybe for a split-second, just so we know she has the form.

If/When we go past end of Z I don't want them to retell GT, I want totally new stories.

Most definitely agreed. We had enough shitty retellings in Super as is. Let's keep it to new stories that they handle much better.

[Boo Machine]

There's a reason I stopped being involved in the pink hair conversation. I would advise you all to do the same.

Anyway, about the female SSJs, that's what I want Post-EOZ for. So they can retell GT and give Pan a Super Saiyan form. Because, SSJ Baby Pan would be a bit weird to me. Maybe for a split-second, just so we know she has the form.

With the progress Pan seems to be making, I wouldn't doubt it SSj baby Pan just happened at some point. Would make for some interesting discussions.

"Is baby Pan stronger than Freeza?!"

[DragonHermit]

What if he really has a SSJ White transformation, and the pink is a result of using Kaioken or something?

[Anime Kitten]

What if he really has a SSJ White transformation, and the pink is a result of using Kaioken or something?

It's possible, but I doubt it since the sticker had no clear indication of Kaioken (such as an aura).

[Dbzfan94]

There's a reason I stopped being involved in the pink hair conversation. I would advise you all to do the same.

Anyway, about the female SSJs, that's what I want Post-EOZ for. So they can retell GT and give Pan a Super Saiyan form. Because, SSJ Baby Pan would be a bit weird to me. Maybe for a split-second, just so we know she has the form.

I would love to see SSJ Pan and Bulla, but I would want it to be yellow for consistently, nothing to do with the color pink itself.

[ArchedThunder]

There's a reason I stopped being involved in the pink hair conversation. I would advise you all to do the same.

Anyway, about the female SSJs, that's what I want Post-EOZ for. So they can retell GT and give Pan a Super Saiyan form. Because, SSJ Baby Pan would be a bit weird to me. Maybe for a split-second, just so we know she has the form.

With the progress Pan seems to be making, I wouldn't doubt it SSj baby Pan just happened at some point. Would make for some interesting discussions.

"Is baby Pan stronger than Freeza?!"

Nah, she'll probably skip straight to Blue =P

[Krillin1994]

I've not seen anybody suggest this pink super Saiyan form is just SSG for Black.

[Dbzfan94]

I've not seen anybody suggest this pink super Saiyan form is just SSG for Black.

I could've sworn I said somewhere that it was "reverse" SSJB but I could be wrong

[Krillin1994]

Not SSJB just like actual SSG. Maybe the pink hue was supposed to be red.

[Anime Kitten]

I doubt Super Saiyan Rose is another version of Super Saiyan God because it should logically have base hairstyle instead of SSJ.

[Xeztin]

I doubt Super Saiyan Rose is another version of Super Saiyan God because it should logically have base hairstyle instead of SSJ.

Super Saiyan Rose is probably just normal SSJ for Black. I just can't see him having God Ki unless he is Zamasu himself.