Dragonball Kai (FUNimation English) Dub: General Discussion

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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by KaiserNeko » Sun May 02, 2010 10:37 am

Cipher wrote:"Tri-Beam" doesn't make a bit of difference, guys.
The balls are inert?

And yeah, ultimately, it doesn't change a whole lot, but damn it... that's not the attack name. That's not even a proper translation of it, either.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by LilKokuLink » Sun May 02, 2010 12:46 pm

What Innagadadavida was saying about keeping consistency with their original DragonBall was probably the reason why they kept King Piccolo in the first episode.
As for Tri-Beam, it never really bothered me but it keeps reminding me of the Pokemon Dodrio using it.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Cipher » Sun May 02, 2010 12:58 pm

LilKokuLink wrote:What Innagadadavida was saying about keeping consistency with their original DragonBall was probably the reason why they kept King Piccolo in the first episode.
As for Tri-Beam, it never really bothered me but it keeps reminding me of the Pokemon Dodrio using it.
That's "Tri-Attack."

Damn, guys. Get your act together.

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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by LilKokuLink » Sun May 02, 2010 1:17 pm

Cipher wrote:That's "Tri-Attack."

Damn, guys. Get your act together.
I apologise, however it still reminds me of it. *sigh*
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by The Time Traveller » Sun May 02, 2010 1:39 pm

He makes a square with his hands, it leaves a square in the ground when aimed downwards, so Tri-beam...?

They don't even call it that in the games...

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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Gozar » Sun May 02, 2010 1:56 pm

To the people who are saying Sabat's Vegeta sounds different (in a better way). I think you guys may have too much of the 1999/2000/2001 Vegeta in your head. Sabat's severely deepened and toned down Vegeta in recent years. From what I've heard of him so far (This includes right after Raditz died), Sabat's Vegeta sounds exactly the same as it has for the past 5 or so years.

I feel the same way when some people here talk about Sabat's Piccolo. Sabat started toning down Piccolo's natural speaking voice after the Cell Games (maybe a little before).

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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Kirbopher » Sun May 02, 2010 2:21 pm

By the way, it'll be "Over 9000!" on the broadcast version. No that's not the "big news"; it's not on this set. Also yeah dunno what's up with "Tri-beam", sorry guys.

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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by xzero » Sun May 02, 2010 2:24 pm

Kirbopher wrote:By the way, it'll be "Over 9000!" on the broadcast version. No that's not the "big news"; it's not on this set. Also yeah dunno what's up with "Tri-beam", sorry guys.
Just out of curiosity (unless I totally missed something here), how do you know?

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Post by JulieYBM » Sun May 02, 2010 2:25 pm

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Kirbopher wrote:By the way, it'll be "Over 9000!" on the broadcast version. No that's not the "big news"; it's not on this set. Also yeah dunno what's up with "Tri-beam", sorry guys.
Just out of curiosity (unless I totally missed something here), how do you know?
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Gozar » Sun May 02, 2010 2:30 pm

Kirbopher wrote:By the way, it'll be "Over 9000!" on the broadcast version. No that's not the "big news"; it's not on this set. Also yeah dunno what's up with "Tri-beam", sorry guys.
I had a feeling this might be the case. I say it's a good move. Now, the meme fanboys can jerk off to that. While the correct dialogue will be forever encrusted on the DVD's.

Also, I'm sure this would have been mentioned already if there were, but I figure I'll ask anyway. Any extras? Namely a commentary?

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Post by B » Sun May 02, 2010 2:35 pm

LilKokuLink wrote:What Innagadadavida was saying about keeping consistency with their original DragonBall was probably the reason why they kept King Piccolo in the first episode.
... Or... Maybe that's an acceptable translation of his name? "Daimaou" is "Great Demon King". It would be rather redundant and clunky if any English dub of DB constantly referred to him by his full title. And, as you said, the Dragon Ball dub uses "Great Demon King," and then kind of branches off into "Demon King Piccolo" or just "King Piccolo."

And, if you wish to get truly anal, in the "Z" portion of the series, we learn that Piccolo's an alien, so bringing up that he's a "demon" is a bit pointless.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by jjgp1112 » Sun May 02, 2010 2:44 pm

Gozar wrote:To the people who are saying Sabat's Vegeta sounds different (in a better way). I think you guys may have too much of the 1999/2000/2001 Vegeta in your head. Sabat's severely deepened and toned down Vegeta in recent years. From what I've heard of him so far (This includes right after Raditz died), Sabat's Vegeta sounds exactly the same as it has for the past 5 or so years.

I feel the same way when some people here talk about Sabat's Piccolo. Sabat started toning down Piccolo's natural speaking voice after the Cell Games (maybe a little before).
I'm so freaking glad I'm not the only one saying this now. Seriously, Vegeta and Piccolo have sounded this way for a VERY long time now.

Shit, Goku has sounded the way he does on Kai for a while, too.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Undercooked Sausage » Sun May 02, 2010 3:03 pm

Shemmel didn't start using his new Goku voice until the redub of seasons 1+2 and that last arc of Dragonball.

I think the voices are generally the same, but there is more subtlety in Sabat's Vegeta/Piccolo voices. Voices and acting are always becoming more nuanced.

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Post by Metalwario64 » Sun May 02, 2010 3:07 pm

Kirbopher wrote:By the way, it'll be "Over 9000!" on the broadcast version. No that's not the "big news"; it's not on this set. Also yeah dunno what's up with "Tri-beam", sorry guys.
So I was right then after all! And people said I was crazy for thinking they would redo that line just for the broadcast... :lol:
Undercooked Sausage wrote:I think the voices are generally the same, but there is more subtlety in Sabat's Vegeta/Piccolo voices. Voices and acting are always becoming more nuanced.
Pretty much. Even in the Season Two and Three "re-dubs" Sabat's Vegeta sounded too forced and gruff, whereas here he is using the same voice, but the acting is much less stiff and much more dynamic and natural.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by gregorthegame » Sun May 02, 2010 4:32 pm

Sorry getting back to everyone so late..
Anybody have any direct questions about the dub itself?
They do indeed keep Tri-Beam...
Going to watch episodes 10-13 straight thru then ill say what i think of the dub..
The dub is not bad by any stretch.. Sabat sounds different for each character he dubs also..
Even king kai hes less snarly... each character sounds so much calmer and serious.
I think it's a very good dub so far... my opinion.
On to watch 10-13...
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Li'l Lemmy » Sun May 02, 2010 4:43 pm

Sure, I've got one for ya. And it's a a bit of a biggie.

Does Vegeta still offer for Goku to team up with him before they battle, or has this been changed to something more appropriate? What's the dialogue there?


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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by MetalMadness » Sun May 02, 2010 4:45 pm

gregorthegame wrote:Sorry getting back to everyone so late..
Anybody have any direct questions about the dub itself?
They do indeed keep Tri-Beam...
Going to watch episodes 10-13 straight thru then ill say what i think of the dub..
The dub is not bad by any stretch.. Sabat sounds different for each character he dubs also..
Even king kai hes less snarly... each character sounds so much calmer and serious.
I think it's a very good dub so far... my opinion.
On to watch 10-13...
Have there been any "bigger" swear words, such as bitch, bastard, or shit?

Is there anything you really dislike, or kinda wish was changed?
When I heard Cook's Raditz in the clips, I thought he was kinda off compared to the UUC. What'd you think?

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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by dragonpiece » Sun May 02, 2010 4:49 pm

gregorthegame wrote:Sorry getting back to everyone so late..
Anybody have any direct questions about the dub itself?
They do indeed keep Tri-Beam...
Going to watch episodes 10-13 straight thru then ill say what i think of the dub..
The dub is not bad by any stretch.. Sabat sounds different for each character he dubs also..
Even king kai hes less snarly... each character sounds so much calmer and serious.
I think it's a very good dub so far... my opinion.
On to watch 10-13...
I don't remember which episode, but when Son Gohan falls of a cliff he yells at Piccolo Daimo saying words like "monkey", "ape", "apple" and what not. Could you shed a little a little light on if he says this in the dub?
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Kirbopher » Sun May 02, 2010 5:08 pm

Just got my copy guys. If it were not for the guest in my house I'd watch it all in a night like a psycho, but we'll probably take a look at a few episodes. If anything interesting comes up I'll relay it. For any questions regarding dialogue, I think it's become prevalent at this point that it's -essentially- the original. No more offers to join, no more "brilliant scientist" bullcrap, it's the ACTUAL story. Tri-Beam screw-up aside, that was one thing I was assured beyond all compassion is that the story is being preserved as best it possibly can.

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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by penguintruth » Sun May 02, 2010 5:13 pm

Undercooked Sausage wrote:Shemmel didn't start using his new Goku voice until the redub of seasons 1+2 and that last arc of Dragonball.
I take issue with this. I've heard plenty of Schemmel's Goku in the redub and recall him from the last part of DB. It was still pretty awful.

His Goku is noticably better here than there (at least, based on the clips I've seen). Though it's only worked it's way up to "tolerable" to me. I wouldn't say he's the best voice for the character, but he doesn't sound like he's forcing himself anymore. But the script could be an element of that.
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