Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:10 pm

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dbzfan7 wrote:Nappa was crippled and literally couldn't fight back.
Wasn't Freeza on his hands and knees after fighting Vegeta ? wouldn't that mean he couldn't fight back ? so why isn't that a win for Vegeta ? of course this is after Whis fixed everything.
Nappa couldn't even fire a blast or move his limbs. Freeza still had plenty of power and wasn't crippled at all. There's a big difference. If Freeza couldn't fight back, then he wouldn't be able to blow up earth.
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SansrivaaL wrote: Because of the fans that actually thinks Vegeta looked badass while some of us fail to see which part he looked badass and had a win. I already stated Goku has a flaw despite being a great martial artist, AT kinda shoved it down our throats, Beerus said it, Whis said it, Freeza said it, Vegeta said it. He is too soft I'm not denying that, hence the reason why he lost in the 1st place being over confident seeing Freeza down not expecting a hit from anyone then BANG he got pierced in the heart.

Same thing happened to Vegeta, except Sorbet was already dead because he killed him, and Freeza was even more desperate because he had been beaten up again; which led to more drastic measures in the form of him blowing up the planet. Tbh in this movie no one looked badass, except maybe Whiss, because everyone had their flaws, which is why some people are criticizing the movie. There are both extremes to the 'Vegeta looked badass' part, some people are over-glorifying him because they hoped he would be the star of this movie, and others are making him sound second-tier, when in reality its somewhere in between. I think we can all agree that everyone messed up in some way, and that maybe the majority of people are hoping that another movie will ensure that Goku/Vegeta get over their character flaws and work together to beat a relevant opponent.
Frieza was tired after fighting Goku and must have literally pissed in his... well he doesnt have pants so lets just say he went wee wee after Vegeta went blue saiyan on him, on that moment yes he knew he was fcked IF Vegeta was playing it smart and actually killed Frieza from the get go but naaah he wants to play with little ol Frieza which resulted in his death. Like I said both him and Goku were idiots the only difference is Vegeta was nervous to fight a 100% Frieza while Goku wasnt.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:10 pm

sintzu wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:Nappa was crippled and literally couldn't fight back.
Wasn't Freeza on his hands and knees after fighting Vegeta ? wouldn't that mean he couldn't fight back ? so why isn't that a win for Vegeta ? of course this is after Whis fixed everything.
If he couldn't fight back then the planet would never had blown up.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:12 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
sintzu wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:Nappa was crippled and literally couldn't fight back.
Wasn't Freeza on his hands and knees after fighting Vegeta ? wouldn't that mean he couldn't fight back ? so why isn't that a win for Vegeta ? of course this is after Whis fixed everything.
If he couldn't fight back then the planet would never had blown up.
What can we say, he was Yamcha'd. Like how before he pulled a Chaozu.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:13 pm

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What can we say, he was Yamcha'd. Like how before he pulled a Chaozu.
And before that he pulled a Piccolo, who himself pulled a Tenshinhan.
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Post by SansrivaaL » Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:14 pm

dbzfan7 wrote: What can we say, he was Yamcha'd. Like how before he pulled a Chaozu.
Wait so Vegeta is Yamchafyd now? better be careful and brace urself, dem mad fanboys/fangirls aint gonna be happy reading that.

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Post by Sparko33 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:15 pm

SansrivaaL wrote: Freeza was tired after fighting Goku and must have literally pissed in his... well he doesnt have pants so lets just say he went wee wee after Vegeta went blue saiyan on him, on that moment yes he knew he was fcked IF Vegeta was playing it smart and actually killed Freeza from the get go but naaah he wants to play with little ol Freeza which resulted in his death. Like I said both him and Goku were idiots the only difference is Vegeta was nervous to fight a 100% Freeza while Goku wasnt.
We can't be sure of the context of the last part until we see the movie so I can't comment on that until I see it play out, though I doubt Vegeta was fearing Freeza, probably more surprised that he had a further transformation. And let's be real, when is Goku ever nervous? He's too simple for that emotion; which is why I can't relate to him, no one is that simple/innocent (to avoid saying dumb) in real life; everyone struggles and tries to come around, which is why I relate more to Vegeta.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:18 pm

SansrivaaL wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote: What can we say, he was Yamcha'd. Like how before he pulled a Chaozu.
Wait so Vegeta is Yamchafyd now? better be careful and brace urself, dem mad fanboys/fangirls aint gonna be happy reading that.
Because like Yamcha he beat the shit out of his opponent, only for his opponent to self destruct and kill both of them. Ergo Vegeta was Yamcha, and Freeza was the Saibaman. Difference is Vegeta is praised while Yamcha is constantly ridiculed.
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Post by SansrivaaL » Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:20 pm

Sparko33 wrote:
SansrivaaL wrote: Freeza was tired after fighting Goku and must have literally pissed in his... well he doesnt have pants so lets just say he went wee wee after Vegeta went blue saiyan on him, on that moment yes he knew he was fcked IF Vegeta was playing it smart and actually killed Freeza from the get go but naaah he wants to play with little ol Freeza which resulted in his death. Like I said both him and Goku were idiots the only difference is Vegeta was nervous to fight a 100% Freeza while Goku wasnt.
We can't be sure of the context of the last part until we see the movie so I can't comment on that until I see it play out, though I doubt Vegeta was fearing Freeza, probably more surprised that he had a further transformation. And let's be real, when is Goku ever nervous? He's too simple for that emotion; which is why I can't relate to him, no one is that simple/innocent (to avoid saying dumb) in real life; everyone struggles and tries to come around, which is why I relate more to Vegeta.
Probably the reason why AT had the comment of ''The world wouldnt function well if we were all Goku's'' but yeah havent really seen it so we'll leave it at that but to the one that watched it here in kanzenshuu it looked to him/her that he was nervous, and as far as I know Vegeta he doesnt back out on a fight, he was eager to fight Cell after coming out on the chamber even had a rock paper scissor fight with Goku on who gets kid buu first. Vegeta is a good character yes but its his hardcore fans thats the problem.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:22 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:
SansrivaaL wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote: What can we say, he was Yamcha'd. Like how before he pulled a Chaozu.
Wait so Vegeta is Yamchafyd now? better be careful and brace urself, dem mad fanboys/fangirls aint gonna be happy reading that.
Because like Yamcha he beat the shit out of his opponent, only for his opponent to self destruct and kill both of them. Ergo Vegeta was Yamcha, and Freeza was the Saibaman. Difference is Vegeta is praised while Yamcha is constantly ridiculed.
Th situation is actually kind of worse when you think about it. Only Yamcha and the Saibaman died when the Saibaman pulled that kamikaze attack. But in the case in Resurrection F, Freeza not only killed Vegeta, but his family, friends and billions of other people along with himself.
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Post by KaiserNeko » Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:23 pm

I still have no idea how people can have such a decisive conversation about this film without having seen it.

I don't care about synopsis and descriptions. I want to see the film in full before I give my full opinion on it.

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Post by SansrivaaL » Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:23 pm

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SansrivaaL wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote: What can we say, he was Yamcha'd. Like how before he pulled a Chaozu.
Wait so Vegeta is Yamchafyd now? better be careful and brace urself, dem mad fanboys/fangirls aint gonna be happy reading that.
Because like Yamcha he beat the shit out of his opponent, only for his opponent to self destruct and kill both of them. Ergo Vegeta was Yamcha, and Freeza was the Saibaman. Difference is Vegeta is praised while Yamcha is constantly ridiculed.
I feel bad for Yamcha, he got his girl stolen from him, he got blown up, constantly made fun of irl.... fictional character wise I really do feel bad for him.... but Vegeta oh God.... Vegeta has more fans than any of the Z-Cast.

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Post by Duo » Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:25 pm

KaiserNeko wrote:I still have no idea how people can have such a decisive conversation about this film without having seen it.

I don't care about synopsis and descriptions. I want to see the film in full before I give my full opinion on it.

Until then, unsubscribing from this thread.
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Post by Chuquita » Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:30 pm

Mystic Tien wrote:
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Lord Freeza wrote:And yet Freeza still killed him, that is a show of utter incompetence not superiority.
In the current time line he didn't die.
We don't know yet, if Whis created another timeline with his rewind ability, or if he just changed the past. If he created another timeline, then in original FnF timeline Vegeta died, if he didn't, he died anyway, after which Whis rewind time, which prevented Vegeta from dying. But it doesn't change the fact that initially he died.
This I'm curious about. I'd want to say it's the same timeline because wouldn't there be two of him if they brought him to a different timeline? If they did jump into a different timeline though, the repercussions would be kind of staggering when you think about it. I mean, his home is gone. That's Back to the Future level time travel.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:30 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:Because like Yamcha he beat the shit out of his opponent, only for his opponent to self destruct and kill both of them. Ergo Vegeta was Yamcha, and Freeza was the Saibaman. Difference is Vegeta is praised while Yamcha is constantly ridiculed.
Th situation is actually kind of worse when you think about it. Only Yamcha and the Saibaman died when the Saibaman pulled that kamikaze attack. But in the case in Resurrection F, Freeza not only killed Vegeta, but his family, friends and billions of other people along with himself.
Not like Vegeta really cares beyond his family. Vegeta's outcome caused things to go far worse, but he wasn't killed by a henchman. Still either way, he was Yamcha'd.
SansrivaaL wrote:I feel bad for Yamcha, he got his girl stolen from him, he got blown up, constantly made fun of irl.... fictional character wise I really do feel bad for him.... but Vegeta oh God.... Vegeta has more fans than any of the Z-Cast.
Well in Xenoverse he seemed kinda racist against Majins :lol:.

Nah Vegeta is second to Goku in popularity.
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Post by Gianchio » Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:33 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
Lord Freeza wrote:Really this is just sad, Freeza spent the most of the movie getting the crap beaten out of him and then has his win erased yet you dont see us Freeza fans bitching this much.
I think most Freeza fans are just content with the fact that Freeza returned became a threat again, even though it didn't last long.
He should have been more powerful than Whis to become a real threat. He is basically a punching bag for most of the fight.
I hoped that this movie would have given Freeza a bit of honor and a proper death. While his death is better that the one with Trunks, the fight is really anticlimatic and humiliating for him. And when he "wins", Whis just rewinds time. Really, those two guys are becoming annoying.
And I can't even hope for Freeza to return in the future and kick everyone's ass, since he died AGAIN.

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Post by rereboy » Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:46 pm

KaiserNeko wrote:I still have no idea how people can have such a decisive conversation about this film without having seen it.

I don't care about synopsis and descriptions. I want to see the film in full before I give my full opinion on it.

Until then, unsubscribing from this thread.
Most people are talking about the plot points revealed in the detailed description of the movie. Aren't people supposed to talk about that and criticize that?

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Post by ShadowWolf87 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:00 pm

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Post by Chuquita » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:08 pm

That teleportation scene is incredibly tempting to me, but I still kinda wanna see the subbed version first.
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Post by FortuneSSJ » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:10 pm

Gianchio wrote: He should have been more powerful than Whis to become a real threat. He is basically a punching bag for most of the fight.
Nah, I'm glad his trainning didn't made him that OP. Goku and Vegeta have been trainning much harder than him.
Toriyama was smart in doing that way.

Instead of a battle for saving word, I see this more like a test for Goku and Vegeta overcome.
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