English Dragon Box Release

Metalwario64 · Post by **Metalwario64** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:34 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:when did this thread turn into the jjgp hate fest. It feels like the Sonic board in 2004 all over again.

Yo, I don't h8 ya cuz!8)

Chrono Trigger · Post by **Chrono Trigger** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:36 pm

JulieYBM wrote:Several years/generations from now--after dropping the 'dub score'--the entire debate is likely to become as mainstream as the Ocean dub itself in the United States, so why not kill two birds with one stone by dropping it now?

Because it would be devastating to my childhood!

Kendamu wrote:After FUNi re-dubbed the first two seasons, a lot of people forgot about the Ocean dub and when it was brought back to their attention they said it sucked and that FUNi's was better even though people were saying just the opposite at the time the cast change took place.

I think the same would happen for the music if it were given the chance to be the only music track. Except for 4Kids garbage, replacement music is so Dark Ages for anime.

You're probably right but come on man! A lot of us grew up watching this stuff on Toonami! Monday through Friday! With the Faulconer music! You guys are getting the default track with subtitles! What more could you guys want? A lot of you fans of the original don't even watch the dub in the first place! That would be like Funimation putting dub music over the Japanese track a few years ago when they were still releasing singles.

jjgp1112 wrote:They might as well keep the Funi dub as it was. You guys say all the time, "I want the show to look like something from 1989, not 2009."

I want my dub to be like something from 1999-2003, not 2009.

Exactly.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:36 pm

Saiyavenger2941 wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:
Saiyavenger2941 wrote:Maybe someone high up at Funi got pissed off at Faulconer? It's no secret that he's kind of a dick...
He's been gone from Funi since 2003. Don't you think they would have also removed his score from the Season sets if they were still pissed?
Nah, more recently, really. Like, asking for an obscene amount of royalties for the bricks or something... I dunno. Just theorizing.

I think that all of the work that he did for the dub is Funi's property as well.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:36 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:
Kendamu wrote:
Chrono Trigger wrote: That's even more of a reason to keep the Faulconer music on there. Everybody has their own opinions and having his music on there is the best way to please everybody. When the Orange Bricks came out something like this wasn't even an issue because everybody could just pick whatever they wanted to hear. We had options!
After FUNi re-dubbed the first two seasons, a lot of people forgot about the Ocean dub and when it was brought back to their attention they said it sucked and that FUNi's was better even though people were saying just the opposite at the time the cast change took place.

I think the same would happen for the music if it were given the chance to be the only music track. Except for 4Kids garbage, replacement music is so Dark Ages for anime.
They might as well keep the Funi dub as it was. You guys say all the time, "I want the show to look like something from 1989, not 2009."

I want my dub to be like something from 1999-2003, not 2009.

Between 1999 and 2003 a lot of stuff was coming out with it's original Japanese music track.

when did this thread turn into the jjgp hate fest. It feels like the Sonic board in 2004 all over again

Stop being a baby. We don't hate you. We're better than that.

Chrono Trigger wrote:You're probably right but come on man! A lot of us grew up watching this stuff on Toonami! Monday through Friday! With the Faulconer music! You guys are getting the default track with subtitles! What more could you guys want? A lot of you fans of the original don't even watch the dub in the first place! That would be like Funimation putting dub music over the Japanese track a few years ago when they were still releasing singles.

If three audio tracks can fit on there, by all means have the Malaysian English dub for all I care. I'm only discussing this from the point of, "If you had to choose one or the other." And, if that turns out to be the case, I say that the US BGM should go. Nothing against you. I'm just not gonna choose something I don't like.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:43 pm

Kendamu wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:
Kendamu wrote: After FUNi re-dubbed the first two seasons, a lot of people forgot about the Ocean dub and when it was brought back to their attention they said it sucked and that FUNi's was better even though people were saying just the opposite at the time the cast change took place.

I think the same would happen for the music if it were given the chance to be the only music track. Except for 4Kids garbage, replacement music is so Dark Ages for anime.
They might as well keep the Funi dub as it was. You guys say all the time, "I want the show to look like something from 1989, not 2009."

I want my dub to be like something from 1999-2003, not 2009.
Between 1999 and 2003 a lot of stuff was coming out with it's original Japanese music track.

I WANT FUNI'S DRAGON BALL Z DUB TO BE HOW IT WAS FROM 1999-2003

Was that really necessary to clarify?

The Time Traveller · Post by **The Time Traveller** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:44 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:I WANT FUNI'S DRAGON BALL Z DUB TO BE HOW IT WAS FROM 1999-2003

Was that really necessary to clarify?

Bah, that's a thing of the past, we're getting no voice filters and the original score.

Next step is English Theme songs!

Metalwario64 · Post by **Metalwario64** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:46 pm

The Time Traveller wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:I WANT FUNI'S DRAGON BALL Z DUB TO BE HOW IT WAS FROM 1999-2003

Was that really necessary to clarify?
Bah, that's a thing of the past, we're getting no voice filters and the original score.

Next step is English Theme songs!

16 still has a voice filter!

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:46 pm

The Time Traveller wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:I WANT FUNI'S DRAGON BALL Z DUB TO BE HOW IT WAS FROM 1999-2003

Was that really necessary to clarify?
Bah, that's a thing of the past, we're getting no voice filters and the original score.

Next step is English Theme songs!

I'll repeat again: You guys also want the film to look like something from 1989, not 2009.

I want the dub unaltered outside of necessary changes like giving Vegeta a deeper voice.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:48 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:I WANT FUNI'S DRAGON BALL Z DUB TO BE HOW IT WAS FROM 1999-2003

Was that really necessary to clarify?

Looks more like you changed your stance rather than made it more clear. You said that want it to seem like it was from the 1999-2003 era rather than something made in 2009. In that 1999-2003 era the only two anime I watched on TV that changed the BGM was DBZ. So, I said that DBZ will still look like something from 1999-2003 even if it has the JPN BGM. Now you're telling me that you want the dub as it was on CN during that time. That's very different and much more specific than what we were implying moments ago; not a clarification at all.

And, calm down. No need for giant font or anything like that. This is all still pretty hypothetical right now. You have greater chances than you thought you did last week. You should be happy.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:52 pm

Kendamu wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:I WANT FUNI'S DRAGON BALL Z DUB TO BE HOW IT WAS FROM 1999-2003

Was that really necessary to clarify?
Looks more like you changed your stance rather than made it more clear. You said that want it to seem like it was from the 1999-2003 era rather than something made in 2009. In that 1999-2003 era the only two anime I watched on TV that changed the BGM was DBZ. So, I said that DBZ will still look like something from 1999-2003 even if it has the JPN BGM. Now you're telling me that you want the dub as it was on CN during that time. That's very different and much more specific than what we were implying moments ago; not a clarification at all.

And, calm down. No need for giant font or anything like that. This is all still pretty hypothetical right now. You have greater chances than you thought you did last week. You should be happy.

What the hell are you talking about? I didn't change my stance at all. the fact that Chrono Trigger agreed with what I was saying and apparently knew what I meant should what I think about that. I didn't change my opinion at all.

I want the dub to be like it was from 1999-2003 like how you guys want the film to llok something from 1989.

Jesus fucking Christ, this thread is gonna give me an aneurysm.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:56 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:Jesus fucking Christ, this thread is gonna give me an aneurysm.

Maybe you should get away from the thread for awhile if it's bothering you that much to disagree about speculative matters that yet to be decided by FUNimation. If this were more concrete maybe I'd understand. Really, though. Go take a breather. It's no skin off'a my nose. I'm more or less bored than anything.

EDIT: Remind me how I drove you halfway insane next time we disagree and I'll leave you alone. I don't feel like causing you to go into a suicidal nerd rage over anime.

Saiyavenger2941 · Post by **Saiyavenger2941** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:04 pm

Kendamu wrote:a suicidal nerd rage over anime.

Heh, now those are quality entertainment.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:05 pm

I was just kidding about the aneurysm comment.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:07 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:I was just kidding about the aneurysm comment.

Well, I didn't think you were literally gonna have an aneurysm. Still sounded like you needed a breather and a punching bag, though.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:10 pm

Kendamu wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:I was just kidding about the aneurysm comment.
Well, I didn't think you were literally gonna have an aneurysm. Still sounded like you needed a breather and a punching bag, though.

Oh no, it mainly just had my brain on the verge of exploding. I wasn't really pissed off.

So I guess I do need to cool off

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:14 pm

Saiyavenger2941 wrote:
Kendamu wrote:a suicidal nerd rage over anime.
Heh, now those are quality entertainment.

Right? Nothing better than seeing a really cool fight because a coupl'a geeks were arguing about Dragonball.

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:14 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:
Kendamu wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:I was just kidding about the aneurysm comment.
Well, I didn't think you were literally gonna have an aneurysm. Still sounded like you needed a breather and a punching bag, though.
Oh no, it mainly just had my brain on the verge of exploding. I wasn't really pissed off.

Speaking from personal experience, leave the 'net for a while. Do something else. Don't come back to the topic for a day or two, and you'll save yourself a crap load of stress.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:15 pm

JulieYBM wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:
Kendamu wrote: Well, I didn't think you were literally gonna have an aneurysm. Still sounded like you needed a breather and a punching bag, though.
Oh no, it mainly just had my brain on the verge of exploding. I wasn't really pissed off.
Speaking from personal experience, leave the 'net for a while. Do something else. Don't come back to the topic for a day or two, and you'll save yourself a crap load of stress.

And that's where my short attention span comes into play. It's like a double-edged sword for me. Saves me some stress, but turns me into a slacker, too

Saiyavenger2941 · Post by **Saiyavenger2941** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:19 pm

JulieYBM wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:
Kendamu wrote: Well, I didn't think you were literally gonna have an aneurysm. Still sounded like you needed a breather and a punching bag, though.
Oh no, it mainly just had my brain on the verge of exploding. I wasn't really pissed off.
Speaking from personal experience, leave the 'net for a while. Do something else. Don't come back to the topic for a day or two, and you'll save yourself a crap load of stress.

This is so true. Remember how bad I was a few months ago. Although not entirely due to the net (College was brutalizing me), any little thing I saw was a slight against me, I lashed out about. It was at the point where I was pretty much hated by everybody around here.

So, I got away. Gave myself a little self-imposed banhammering. Few months later, after I got myself back under control, I came back, apologized for my actions, and right now, I'd say I'm back on most peeps' good sides.

I'm not saying to leave the whole site for months on end or anything, or that you did anything wrong, but a break, at least for a day or so, will do you a world of good.

disturbed001 · Post by **disturbed001** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:25 pm

jjgp1112:

I totally know where you're coming from. I mean I grew up with the dub music and voices. Only recently did I get into the Japanese cast.

Regarding the FUNi Dragon Boxes, I really wanted them to have all 3 audio track, but if I had to choose I would rather have the dub with JPN score. My reason for this is because we pretty much have 2 releases that have the dub score. If I ever feel like being nostalgic ill just go back and view one of the season sets or singles.

I would consider myself a hardcore fan and I would be more than happy to have Japanese and English voices, all with the original score. I enjoy both versions and I realistically think these Dragon Box sets should have just those 2 options.

I would encourage everyone to watch DBZ with Japanese audio and subtitles. They really do do a great job. plus, isn't that really the "way it was meant to be seen"?

Anyway, I guess I'm just trying to say it's a shame that there are 2 different things that people want out of these sets. I guess we can only wait and see eh?