"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[HeroR]

Not sure why everyone thinks Black will steal the time machine. He never showed interest in the past and was more than happy to leave Trunks stuck there.

Also, why would Trunks even leave the time machine out for Black's use, especially since he pocketed it in today's episode, and would Black even know how to drive it?

[nite_jay]

Not sure why everyone thinks Black will steal the time machine. He never showed interest in the past and was more than happy to leave Trunks stuck there.

Also, why would Trunks even leave the time machine out for Black's use, especially since he pocketed it in today's episode, and would Black even know how to drive it?

Well if Cell could do it, Black probably could too.

[Anime Kitten]

Well if Cell could do it, Black probably could too.

Would Cell not use the information from Dr. Gero to travel in the time machine? There is no obvious way that Black could know how.

[GodKaio-Ken]

Well if Cell could do it, Black probably could too.

Would Cell not use the information from Dr. Gero to travel in the time machine? There is no obvious way that Black could know how.

I don't think Gero knew about or how to use the time machine. I mean he is super smart but it doesn't mean he'd understand a time machine. Future Bulma made it and past Bulma couldnt understand it.

[Darkprince410]

Not sure why everyone thinks Black will steal the time machine. He never showed interest in the past and was more than happy to leave Trunks stuck there.

Also, why would Trunks even leave the time machine out for Black's use, especially since he pocketed it in today's episode, and would Black even know how to drive it?

Well if Cell could do it, Black probably could too.

By Cell's own statement, he basically just started it up and let it take him where it was already programmed to. He didn't alter the date or anything like that, just he turned it on, reverted to his egg form, and let it fly him to the past.

[nite_jay]

Well if Cell could do it, Black probably could too.

Would Cell not use the information from Dr. Gero to travel in the time machine? There is no obvious way that Black could know how.

Was all the information gathered before or after the creation of Cell? Because if wasn't, then that's the only way I can see info being gathered about the time machine.

[Anime Kitten]

Okay, so Gero's not smart enough for that. But regardless of whether Black could, why would he? He has the Time Ring.

[Krillin1994]

The time ring isn't primarily used to go to the past, it was unstable when he went back he could only do a few minutes.

[Darkprince410]

Okay, so Gero's not smart enough for that. But regardless of whether Black could, why would he? He has the Time Ring.

The Time Ring, with everything that's indicated so far, doesn't allow time travel to the past. Black was only brought to the past from Trunks' time because the Time Ring basically pulled him along the ripples formed when Trunks' time machine went to the past. That's why he was forcibly pulled back into the temporal tear as it was closing up, as the Time Ring was pulling him back toward where was meant to be chronologically.

Whis: "This is just my hypothesis, but... It seems the distortion in time and space created by the time machine's journey reacted to the power of the Time Ring, and pulled Black into this era. But that distortion attempted to return to its usual state, much like a wound healing. And for that reason, the Time Ring must have forcibly pulled Black back to the era he came from. You might say... he ran out of time."

[HeroR]

Well if Cell could do it, Black probably could too.

Would Cell not use the information from Dr. Gero to travel in the time machine? There is no obvious way that Black could know how.

I don't think Gero knew about or how to use the time machine. I mean he is super smart but it doesn't mean he'd understand a time machine. Future Bulma made it and past Bulma couldnt understand it.

Technically Cell was raised by Gero's computer, not Gero. Cell would have some basic knowledge on how advance technology works. Black's knowledge of technology would be more limited since even if he is Zamasu, he wouldn't know a thing about Earth's technology.

And again, Black has never shown an interest in going to the past. He was perfectly happy to just leave Trunks stuck there. He was more upset about not finishing his fight with Goku.

[GodKaio-Ken]

Would Cell not use the information from Dr. Gero to travel in the time machine? There is no obvious way that Black could know how.

I don't think Gero knew about or how to use the time machine. I mean he is super smart but it doesn't mean he'd understand a time machine. Future Bulma made it and past Bulma couldnt understand it.

Technically Cell was raised by Gero's computer, not Gero. Cell would have some basic knowledge on how advance technology works. Black's knowledge of technology would be more limited since even if he is Zamasu, he wouldn't know a thing about Earth's technology.

And again, Black has never shown an interest in going to the past. He was perfectly happy to just leave Trunks stuck there. He was more upset about not finishing his fight with Goku.

Right about the computer but I'd imagine the computer only knows as much as Gero can program into it...or was it stated that the computer grew smarter with time? I forget. FWIW I think Gero himself is smart enough to figure the time machine out...just not at first glance. He would need to study it.

Though the user interface may be extremely simple and the hard part was just fixing it. In that case anyone could use it in theory.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Why is everyone assuming that you need to be a super-scientist to drive a time machine? From what we've sen, you just press a few buttons...

[Chiki]

Why is everyone assuming that you need to be a super-scientist to drive a time machine? From what we've sen, you just press a few buttons...

I think it's because you need to set the coordinates. Cell didn't set the coordinates; they were already ready and he just went to the time Trunks was supposed to go to.

[HeroR]

Why is everyone assuming that you need to be a super-scientist to drive a time machine? From what we've sen, you just press a few buttons...

I think it's because you need to set the coordinates. Cell didn't set the coordinates; they were already ready and he just went to the time Trunks was supposed to go to.

Pretty much. Cell even said that he didn't know why he came to the time that he did. He just went to the time and place set up by Trunks.

[MozillaVulpix]

Alright. The new titles aren't COMPLETELY making me convinced that this upcoming battle isn't going to be the last important event of the arc (which would be terrible if it was) but at least we're getting a little more about Zamasu. His character progression has been really interesting so far, if a little generic, and I want to see it go all the way.

[SansrivaaL]

And another break in September.... on the bright side I'm glad this Black arc or Future Trunks arc aint ending anytime soon, I hope he beats the mother fcking twinkle stars of Vegeta and Goku, I would have prefered if Black would have kicked Beerus' ass as well but whooping Goku and Vegeta is the next best thing. Calling it! new haircolors for Goku and Vegeta coming (or Trunks)

[Alruneia]

Alright. The new titles aren't COMPLETELY making me convinced that this upcoming battle isn't going to be the last important event of the arc (which would be terrible if it was) but at least we're getting a little more about Zamasu. His character progression has been really interesting so far, if a little generic, and I want to see it go all the way.

I can't see this upcoming battle ending the arc. It'd be too sudden. At the same time, I'm not sure how the story will progress if Goku, Vegeta and Trunks lose. Perhaps Trunks flees to the past again. I've seen theories about that on here. I do think the Black/Zamasu mystery will be cleared up soon, though, possibly completing a causal loop (Black appears in the future -> Trunks flees to the past -> Black follows him to the past -> Beerus and Whis suspect Zamasu -> Goku beats Zamasu -> Zamasu turns evil -> Zamasu creates Black -> Black appears in the future). Well, something like that.

[Dbzfan94]

Alright. The new titles aren't COMPLETELY making me convinced that this upcoming battle isn't going to be the last important event of the arc (which would be terrible if it was) but at least we're getting a little more about Zamasu. His character progression has been really interesting so far, if a little generic, and I want to see it go all the way.

I can't see this upcoming battle ending the arc. It'd be too sudden. At the same time, I'm not sure how the story will progress if Goku, Vegeta and Trunks lose. Perhaps Trunks flees to the past again. I've seen theories about that on here. I do think the Black/Zamasu mystery will be cleared up soon, though, possibly completing a causal loop (Black appears in the future -> Trunks flees to the past -> Black follows him to the past -> Beerus and Whis suspect Zamasu -> Goku beats Zamasu -> Zamasu turns evil -> Zamasu creates Black -> Black appears in the future). Well, something like that.

That would be insanely interesting. DB has never done this type of deep story before so I honestly cant wait to see what goes on.

[GodKaio-Ken]

I'm wondering if the future has a Zeno or if he is immune to being copied due to not residing or being part of the 12 universe.

It seems weird having a copy of the god beyond gods.

[GodVegetto91]

I'm wondering if the future has a Zeno or if he is immune to being copied due to not residing or being part of the 12 universe.

It seems weird having a copy of the god beyond gods.

Indeed. Zeno is beyond all that low level bullshit. There's only one Zeno. And he reigns Supreme over the entire cosmos. The Superior to all Gods. He IS GOD.