"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Alruneia]

I'm inclined to agree if Zen'ou resides outside reality (the multiverse). Timeline splitting should affect all of reality, but not things that are outside it, much like how cutting a cake in half doesn't split the table (the only analogy I could come up with, lol). However, I need to know that he does before I'm convinced.

[Cipher]

I agree, it would be weird for even the highest gods to be replicated in other timelines. Which is why my current thought is that time travel only creates splits in mortal worlds, while any higher godly worlds are unaffected. That's the implication I'm getting from those time rings being linked to different timelines, so the higher gods still have access to all human worlds, including alternate versions, so they can watch over everything.

But we already know Trunks worked with a different version of Kaioshin in his timeline and Beerus was unaware there was a separate timeline at all. (The manga further adds that both Kaioshin and Beerus are dead in Trunks' timeline, though that hasn't been brought up in the anime.)

Zenou may or may not be exempt (though what, then, of his tournament appearance? He happens to notice the specific Beerus and Champa of Timeline No. Whatever are staging an event he can drop in on?), but it's been all but outright stated the high gods of each universe are not exempt from timeline splits. The Kaioshin simply get time rings that denote the change. At least in Universe 10.

[Nejishiki]

Zen'ou resides outside the Universes so it wouldn't make sense for him to have copies of himself.

We haven't exactly received a full 3D map of Zeno's realm, but it seems as if he only has unique universes within display. If he were receiving the split universes as well, I'd like to think they would have a specific visual marking or placement to them. Of course, details such as that remain to be seen. It may be elaborated in the future. It does seems a bit odd that he wouldn't be aware of timeline splits if he's capable of seeing how many universes he has at one time. I'm leaning towards time travel not having a limited range myself until everything intended is revealed.

[ArchedThunder]

All of the Universes exist in physical space next to each other, on top of that Whis doesn't teleport he just moves really fast and yet he can get to Zeno in 2 days. Nothing implies Zeno is separate from the timelines.

[Noah]

I'm wondering if the future has a Zeno or if he is immune to being copied due to not residing or being part of the 12 universe.

It seems weird having a copy of the god beyond gods.

I agree, it would be weird for even the highest gods to be replicated in other timelines. Which is why my current thought is that time travel only creates splits in mortal worlds, while any higher godly worlds are unaffected. That's the implication I'm getting from those time rings being linked to different timelines, so the higher gods still have access to all human worlds, including alternate versions, so they can watch over everything.

I agree with that too, I hope we don't see a Future Zeno or sorta bullsh** like that.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

BD Box art for 4 popped up on Amazon JP:



Bit disappointed was hoping for SSGSSKK.

[sintzu]

Bit disappointed was hoping for SSGSSKK.

I would've put Vegeta on the 3rd set and Hit on this one.

The 5th set goes up to ep60 so Black or Zamasu will probably be on it.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Bit disappointed was hoping for SSGSSKK.

I would've put Vegeta on the 3rd set and Hit on this one.

The 5th set goes up to ep60 so Black or Zamasu will probably be on it.

Probably gonna be SSR for that. I hope (whenever) FUNi release Super they'll have access to the rental covers too because the SSGSS Vegeta on the rental one looked better.

[sintzu]

I hope (whenever) FUNi release Super they'll have access to the rental covers too because the SSGSS Vegeta on the rental one looked better.

Not just that but there's more going on on them compared to these ones.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

I hope (whenever) FUNi release Super they'll have access to the rental covers too because the SSGSS Vegeta on the rental one looked better.

Not just that but there's more going on on them compared to these ones.

Definitely. Hopefully FUNi can have them on the reverse like do for their other releases.

[THEGOKU]

Speaking of Funi. Has there been any kind of movement or any progress on them doing a dub of Super? I personally expect it to be around the same time or air around the same time Viz releases the first DBS manga.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Speaking of Funi. Has there been any kind of movement or any progress on them doing a dub of Super? I personally expect it to be around the same time or air around the same time Viz releases the first DBS manga.

Yeah that's a sound expectation. Last we heard talks were progressing well and Sean hoped they could get something out for Xmas, which isn't too much of a strech considering most other countries who licensed Super are airing it or plan to air it around then (French situation is weird they're in the process of dubbing it but have no station). Toei want it on a main stream channel presumably daily so Toonami won't do that leaves us with XD CN or Nicktoons I believe.

Looking at recent Toei licenses from FUNi. Kai aired 13 months after first airing in Japan. But FUNi didn't dub Toriko until a whole 20 months so (Aired in Japan Apr11 FUNi dubbed Jan 13) since Super aired in July that'll leave us in Spring 2017 like the Manga. So yeah solid prediction. If a TV deal is not done then I think Toei will allow FUNi to release it on home video around that time.

[THEGOKU]

Speaking of Funi. Has there been any kind of movement or any progress on them doing a dub of Super? I personally expect it to be around the same time or air around the same time Viz releases the first DBS manga.

Yeah that's a sound expectation. Last we heard talks were progressing well and Sean hoped they could get something out for Xmas, which isn't too much of a strech considering most other countries who licensed Super are airing it or plan to air it around then (French situation is weird they're in the process of dubbing it but have no station). Toei want it on a main stream channel presumably daily so Toonami won't do that leaves us with XD CN or Nicktoons I believe.

Looking at recent Toei licenses from FUNi. Kai aired 13 months after first airing in Japan. But FUNi didn't dub Toriko until a whole 20 months so (Aired in Japan Apr11 FUNi dubbed Jan 13) since Super aired in July that'll leave us in Spring 2017 like the Manga. So yeah solid prediction. If a TV deal is not done then I think Toei will allow FUNi to release it on home video around that time.

Thanks for answering back. Hopefully by xmas we at least get an announcement. I am sure it is just a matter of finding a home for it as you said. I just want to see the DUB take on this since they have improved over the years especially when it comes to the script translations.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Speaking of Funi. Has there been any kind of movement or any progress on them doing a dub of Super? I personally expect it to be around the same time or air around the same time Viz releases the first DBS manga.

Yeah that's a sound expectation. Last we heard talks were progressing well and Sean hoped they could get something out for Xmas, which isn't too much of a strech considering most other countries who licensed Super are airing it or plan to air it around then (French situation is weird they're in the process of dubbing it but have no station). Toei want it on a main stream channel presumably daily so Toonami won't do that leaves us with XD CN or Nicktoons I believe.

Looking at recent Toei licenses from FUNi. Kai aired 13 months after first airing in Japan. But FUNi didn't dub Toriko until a whole 20 months so (Aired in Japan Apr11 FUNi dubbed Jan 13) since Super aired in July that'll leave us in Spring 2017 like the Manga. So yeah solid prediction. If a TV deal is not done then I think Toei will allow FUNi to release it on home video around that time.

Thanks for answering back. Hopefully by xmas we at least get an announcement. I am sure it is just a matter of finding a home for it as you said. I just want to see the DUB take on this since they have improved over the years especially when it comes to the script translations.

Oh most definitely the anticipation for the dub goes up each month. I can't wait to hear more of Sean's goofy Goku he nailed that in BoG and "F". Also intruiged seeing how he handles Black (we all know he's gonna get the role!) his Japanese counterpart has done a tremendous job so he's got his work cut out! Also interesting to see how the handle the other characters such as Champa, can they find someone who can bounce off Douglas well? Or Omni King.

[Anime Kitten]

Don't forget the Universe 6 fighters, especially Hit. I also wonder about Zamasu and Gowasu.

[ArchedThunder]

Having the dub premier around the release of Xenoverse 2 would be a pretty good idea.

[THEGOKU]

Yeah that's a sound expectation. Last we heard talks were progressing well and Sean hoped they could get something out for Xmas, which isn't too much of a strech considering most other countries who licensed Super are airing it or plan to air it around then (French situation is weird they're in the process of dubbing it but have no station). Toei want it on a main stream channel presumably daily so Toonami won't do that leaves us with XD CN or Nicktoons I believe.

Looking at recent Toei licenses from FUNi. Kai aired 13 months after first airing in Japan. But FUNi didn't dub Toriko until a whole 20 months so (Aired in Japan Apr11 FUNi dubbed Jan 13) since Super aired in July that'll leave us in Spring 2017 like the Manga. So yeah solid prediction. If a TV deal is not done then I think Toei will allow FUNi to release it on home video around that time.

Thanks for answering back. Hopefully by xmas we at least get an announcement. I am sure it is just a matter of finding a home for it as you said. I just want to see the DUB take on this since they have improved over the years especially when it comes to the script translations.

Oh most definitely the anticipation for the dub goes up each month. I can't wait to hear more of Sean's goofy Goku he nailed that in BoG and "F". Also intruiged seeing how he handles Black (we all know he's gonna get the role!) his Japanese counterpart has done a tremendous job so he's got his work cut out! Also interesting to see how the handle the other characters such as Champa, can they find someone who can bounce off Douglas well? Or Omni King.

Right the casting for the recent movies has been outstanding with the newer characters so I would expect it to continue with Super. I think Sean for black will do more of the kind of voice he used for SSJ3 and SSJ4 that deeper tone but make it more sinister. Hit is the one I'm really curious as to which direction they will go.

[sailorspazz]

I agree, it would be weird for even the highest gods to be replicated in other timelines. Which is why my current thought is that time travel only creates splits in mortal worlds, while any higher godly worlds are unaffected. That's the implication I'm getting from those time rings being linked to different timelines, so the higher gods still have access to all human worlds, including alternate versions, so they can watch over everything.

But we already know Trunks worked with a different version of Kaioshin in his timeline and Beerus was unaware there was a separate timeline at all. (The manga further adds that both Kaioshin and Beerus are dead in Trunks' timeline, though that hasn't been brought up in the anime.)

Ah, I tend to forget the manga only stuff, since I've lost most of my interest in it after it stopped being a preview for upcoming plot points. Seems like there's another difference between the two versions: the anime where Kaioushin helped Trunks out, and the manga where he's supposedly dead. Presumably when these differences show up, it means that particular point was not something Toriyama came up with (whether the Kaioushin was dead or alive), but the point that he's linked to the God of Destruction must be relevant, since it was stated in both versions.

So if every timeline has its own sets of gods, there shouldn't be any need for them to travel between timelines, right? Unless something serious enough happens that it requires multiple versions of gods to deal with...but otherwise, are the time rings that form when new timelines are created just there so they're aware of them, not so they can actually go there and invade their alternate self's "turf"? I'm clearly confused, and should probably stop trying to think about this...hopefully upcoming episodes will clear everything up!

[THEGOKU]

Now if this has already been talked about I apologize and correct me if I am wrong. If I recall correctly after the end of the U6 Arc when the Omni King comes and talks to Beerus and what not did he not say they should do another tournament but with every universe in it? Now we don't know about all of them yet but how would you take it if one of them turns out to be a Universe with the GT characters? Just a thought I had because that way they could explain it as a different universe and we as fans can have that major sigh of relief that basically GT is it's own thing which I am sure many of us have already done. I don't mean like the fan manga either with the multiverse it could just be for example universe1 these characters are in and the rest contain different characters much like what U6 had. Also wouldn't this have high chances of being the next arc?

[nite_jay]

Thanks for answering back. Hopefully by xmas we at least get an announcement. I am sure it is just a matter of finding a home for it as you said. I just want to see the DUB take on this since they have improved over the years especially when it comes to the script translations.

Oh most definitely the anticipation for the dub goes up each month. I can't wait to hear more of Sean's goofy Goku he nailed that in BoG and "F". Also intruiged seeing how he handles Black (we all know he's gonna get the role!) his Japanese counterpart has done a tremendous job so he's got his work cut out! Also interesting to see how the handle the other characters such as Champa, can they find someone who can bounce off Douglas well? Or Omni King.

Right the casting for the recent movies has been outstanding with the newer characters so I would expect it to continue with Super. I think Sean for black will do more of the kind of voice he used for SSJ3 and SSJ4 that deeper tone but make it more sinister. Hit is the one I'm really curious as to which direction they will go.

I honestly don't want english Black to be deep and rough. I honestly want it to be smooth, and in a similar tone to Nozawa.