Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[UpFromTheSkies]

Here's a pretty cool piece of fanart:

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I like it, hopefully it looks something like that, and not that ugly super bright neon blue that's in a lot of fan art.

[bleed0range]

Here's a pretty cool piece of fanart:

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I like it, hopefully it looks something like that, and not that ugly super bright neon blue that's in a lot of fan art.

I feel like the darker blue the better.

[dbzfan7]

Here's a pretty cool piece of fanart:

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Hope that's exactly what it turns out to be. I like how the eyes are like the SSJ3 one's (One thing I like about SSJG), I light the lightning aura, and I hope we get a cool new or SSJG aura (Another thing I did like about SSJG)

[Bullza]

A darker blue would look ugly as the picture on the previous page proves. If he end up looking the way he does in the gif it'd be cool though.

[soulnova]

Are you saying that there are enough establish Saiyan lore to justify pink fur and magical pants? I guess turning from a golden ape to a pink fur monkey with magical pants make sense.

But if not for the magical pants, they'd be fighting nude. :3

I'm totally ok with this.

[UpFromTheSkies]

I just hope it's not super bright blue like this:

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More toned down would look better:

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[fadeddreams5]

Seriously though, does this form have pupils or not? Those toys didn't. >.>

[Piririn]

Plus, Freeza blew up Namek when he was losing against Goku during the Freeza saga. So it's not like him blowing up Earth is unexpected.

Judging my the way it's written, it seems very unexpected.
At worst, people would expect him to raise his hand, concentrate a ball, say "can you survive in space?" and throw it down from the air. More than enough time to intervene if you expect such a trick.
But here, Freezer is apparently on his knees and hands to the ground, with a blast suddenly coming out of his hand without any kind of warning, with the beam being hidden through the ground and impossible to intercept.

Nobody could see that one coming. Aside from Vegeta against Reacum, I think it's mostly unprecedented to have a character throwing a surprise blast without charging it first and saying "Here's what I'm gonna do now, you're caught my surprise, aren't you?" - and even Vegeta actually moved his arms to Reacum's face to blast him.

Again, compare the way Freezer destroyed Namek, in which case Goku could have easily interrupted him if he expected that kind of reaction, and the way it is written for this movie.
It really seems as if you were The Flash fighting a guy equiped with a bomb, and you'd expect that if he tries something, he will try to reach for a button, leaving you more than enough time to prevent it if it happens, except that in the end, all it takes to trigger it is actually for him to blink twice: no way to see that coming even when you expected him to do something to trigger the bomb.

If you're watching if someone will make a dangerous move and without them even moving it just goes blast-BOOM, anybody would be caught by surprise.
Very clever twist of events here, just by reading the recap, I could imagine how shocking the scene is.

Freeza has made surprise kills in the past. He didn't say a word, didn't charge anything, when he killed Dende, Vegeta, and Kuririn. Or when he fired a beam through Piccolo. Each kill and attempted kill came with no warning.

Counting on your opponent to give you a warning before they fire each blast would be insane. And most ki attacks in DB are quick shots anyway, not announced. Plus... this is Freeza, not somebody new. When Freeza is losing, he blows up the planet. It's his trump card. Goku and Vegeta know this. And even if Freeza doesn't blow up the planet, he's so evil and sadistic that killing him quickly is the only way to ensure that he doesn't do something else that's horrific.

That Flash analogy misses the logical assumption that villains learn from past failures. Any villain that has a lick of brains knows that if their last bomb failed, they need to make the next one better. Any hero with a lick of brains would be on guard for that.

To be honest, the movie sounds rather... disappointing. There was so much build up about despair and the worst wish in history, etc... but Freeza's arrival is reminiscent of Avo and Cado's. And there's a lot of plot problems... I wish, if they were going to bring back Freeza, there'd been a little more effort into making the plot solid and consistent with the rest of the series.

I originally thought that Freeza's actions would make it the worst wish in history, being what he would do on the extremes of something not ever seen in the series yet to how sociopathic the villains are known to be... but actually, apparently the "worst wish in history" was just the marketing hype on Freeza's name, not on anything he does in this film. It's very disappointing. it also seems as though Freeza returning will be no different than Broly returns, something that happens, has no impact on the viewer anymore and is a plotline left easily forgotten. The sad problem is that they aren't even trying to really expand let alone connect anything to fit into the ending. Rather, Toriyama might just be trying to ditch it. It seems pointless when you look at it. The Villain of the movie shouldnt have been about Freeza if by now he means nothing. Its like Toriyama doesnt have any confidence in any other villain outside him; and isnt even focused on regardless if it fits relevance of the era or the hype anymore.

Plus, Freeza blew up Namek when he was losing against Goku during the Freeza saga. So it's not like him blowing up Earth is unexpected.

Its also done in the same exact circumstance as well. Freeza overestimates himself yet again, Goku mocks it, and he pulls out again. Especially after Goku should be fully aware of Freeza being untrustworth of self-control, he had that entire speech with him talking about how Freeza doesnt care and even attacked him after he spared him. You would think Goku would have not wanted to take chances again but instead he keeps complimenting him.

I had hoped that the rewritten history theory would prove correct. That had so much potential for both humor and pathos. But Freeza inflicting despair through evil acts would've been great too. What we got was action minus meaning. The thing with this movie is that there's no impact on the characters themselves. No significant reaction to nearly everybody dying. The destruction of Earth has almost as little effect on the heroes as the destruction of Mr. Satan's new hotel in the Tarble special.

This movie has made it so that there's no chance for real danger/drama in any future movie either. If the Earth being destroyed and everybody dying is no big deal anymore, that what could possibly be at stake in the next movie?

And yeah, Goku's handling of the fight makes no sense. He acts like he's fighting against a grumpy rival instead of a tyrant with countless oceans of blood on his hands.

[kidhero1000]

Goddamn how difficult it's been to avoid spoilers for this movie on the net. -.-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MKLPgf4rbw

[Mystic Tien]

"IT IS ONCE AGAIN OVERRRRRRR, FREEZAAA"

I already posted it Funny indeed, though.

Here's a pretty cool piece of fanart:



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And this looks awesome! But I won't rise my expectations. Don't think that it will look that good in an actual movie.

[Barunks]

I just want to say I totally called super saiyan god being only in one movie the moment it was announced. Now With the introduction of blue super saiyan I think it is safe to admit that red super saiyan god really is the modern day equivalent of false super saiyan.

[SquadronGOD]

Cold Skin came up with a great theory

And as the French forum's boss just reminded us over here in France, watch this:



What if the idea was that Super Saiyan God was not completely achieved in BOG, for example due to one of the members just being a foetus.
It's almost as if it was supposed to be blue (blue aura, perhaps blue straight hair falling down, even blue eyes for a split second) and immediately fell back to a midway status.

Of course, Toriyama doesn't think that far ahead, but it could be that he's been inspired by watching what it looked like when seeing BOG.
Then again, all of him is actually blue due to the aura for a split second... But those blue aura and sparkles to begin with, which are not seen again. Really seems to indicate that the true God energy would be blue under normal circumstances.

There are two major things that contradict that theory though - one, Goku's explanation of BSSJG, and two, the fact that he doesn't enact the same ritual to transform in RoF. If anything, the blue-haired form is actually an imitation of the magenta form because it's equipping SSJG's power onto SSJ1 to obtain a similar level of strength. As far as I can tell, the blue "aura" that formed when Goku first triggered the transformation seems to be representative of Godly ki (which Goku layers on top of his regular Super Saiyan form in RoF), whereas SSJG's fiery red aura in BoG is the aura of the transformation itself (which Goku doesn't need anymore because he found a work-around solution to achieve the same results).

You know what's funny? I dont know of this has been mentioned yet, but in that gif Goku's eyes are more angular like a Super Saiyan just for that split second while his hair is standing..

[Sandubadear]

- Can Goku use his god ki to become a blue ssj2 and blue ssj3 too?!

I hope so. and Blue Oozaru

[Dyno]

I don't think there is something blocking Kakarot from using Super Saiyan 2 or Super Saiyan 3 with Super Saiyan God powers, if Super Saiyan is possible, why those forms wouldn't be? Of course, speaking in-universe... Out-universe there is, and this "something" is called "Akira Toriyama".

[Cetra]

I can't even imagine SSJ3 with red or blue hair. I just don't want to.

[Noah]

I don't think there is something blocking Kakarot from using Super Saiyan 2 or Super Saiyan 3 with Super Saiyan God powers, if Super Saiyan is possible, why those forms wouldn't be? Of course, speaking in-universe... Out-universe there is, and this "something" is called "Akira Toriyama".

It would be cool then we would have two sets of transformations:

Normal Ki:

- Base
- Super Saiyan
- Super Saiyan 2
- Super Saiyan 3

God Ki:

- Super Saiyan God/Stable Super Saiyan God (Base and Blue SSJ form)
- God Of Super Saiyan 2
- God Of Super Saiyan 3


I can't imagine how powerful Goku or the others could be, they could use that power to battle the others Gods Of Destruction

[Baggie_Saiyan]

I don't think there is something blocking Kakarot from using Super Saiyan 2 or Super Saiyan 3 with Super Saiyan God powers, if Super Saiyan is possible, why those forms wouldn't be? Of course, speaking in-universe... Out-universe there is, and this "something" is called "Akira Toriyama".

I imagine it is like Goku and Vegeta starting all over again but this time they have God ki.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

I had hoped that the rewritten history theory would prove correct. That had so much potential for both humor and pathos. But Freeza inflicting despair through evil acts would've been great too. What we got was action minus meaning. The thing with this movie is that there's no impact on the characters themselves. No significant reaction to nearly everybody dying. The destruction of Earth has almost as little effect on the heroes as the destruction of Mr. Satan's new hotel in the Tarble special.

Thats the problem with the series. Which is why the parallel scenario with Kid Buu blowing up the planet was the better storyline. Goku & Vegeta were not only desperate, it was the first time it happened and they were torn at their mistakes leading to that extreme. Thus forcing Goku to snap out of it and get serious.

In FnF all of that maturity in Goku is thrown out the window and Goku only getting serious when he gets blue hair is so redundant and out of character by this point.Not since even in BoG the minute Goku knew Beerus would be too strong to provoke or that he was going to destroy the Earth, he was serious even in base form.

But with FnF, what will they say now? Freeza also always feared blue haired sayians too? and needs his revenge against the blue haired saiyans next only for them to have purple hair next movie? There needs to be new ambitions, new things for villains to want.. I'm tired of this either "Cuz I was bored/I hate Saiyans" thing.

This movie has made it so that there's no chance for real danger/drama in any future movie either. If the Earth being destroyed and everybody dying is no big deal anymore, that what could possibly be at stake in the next movie?

Granted, that the Earth blowing up or the same people dying over and over again is just cliched to the point of desensitization - but thats why I liked the Black Star balls idea in GT. They had that consequence, Goku tried to justify it but realized he was in the wrong for once. That over relying on the balls destroys them and at least that would have to force the heroes to be more careful with things, instead of just giving the balls out like candy at a bingo party.

They need to introduce some way to make consequences less reversable. Not adding Whis' "time-travel" fix when the DB themselves aren't around.

[Chuquita]

I too am disappointed in the lack of consequences. So much how I wanted that cliffhanger we didn't get. T_T

I think I've learned not to take Shueisha's marketing at face value anymore.

Also hoping Gokû and Vegeta interactions can cheer me up when I get to see the movie (and the detailed summary).

[FortuneSSJ]

Why people are worried about Whis time travel?! We already know everything will be alright in the end, thanks to EOZ.
The only thing that can surprises us is the new characters fate (Beerus, Whis...)

I like his technique. Its unique and unique is good.

And this looks awesome! But I won't rise my expectations. Don't think that it will look that good in an actual movie.

If anything, it will look better.