Yeah. We get it, Bra can deflect Cold's attacks. Move along.FoolsGil wrote:Man, this chapter of Prince of Tennis is quite riveting.
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She's not just deflecting, she's increasing the attacks by adding her own to them.ryou766 wrote:Yeah. We get it, Bra can deflect Cold's attacks. Move along.FoolsGil wrote:Man, this chapter of Prince of Tennis is quite riveting.
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It's still being dragged on.
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Which can be shown in a single panel.BlazingBarrrager wrote:She's not just deflecting, she's increasing the attacks by adding her own to them.ryou766 wrote:Yeah. We get it, Bra can deflect Cold's attacks. Move along.FoolsGil wrote:Man, this chapter of Prince of Tennis is quite riveting.
This concept wasn't super interesting and is taking too long to move through.
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Maybe that's why Cold is getting mad? lolSaiga wrote:Which can be shown in a single panel.BlazingBarrrager wrote:She's not just deflecting, she's increasing the attacks by adding her own to them.ryou766 wrote:
Yeah. We get it, Bra can deflect Cold's attacks. Move along.
This concept wasn't super interesting and is taking too long to move through.
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It is only a few pages long. What is taking long is the release schedule, not the actual pacing. Showing everything in one panel is far worse for actual pacing.Saiga wrote:Which can be shown in a single panel.BlazingBarrrager wrote:She's not just deflecting, she's increasing the attacks by adding her own to them.ryou766 wrote:
Yeah. We get it, Bra can deflect Cold's attacks. Move along.
This concept wasn't super interesting and is taking too long to move through.
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Yeah, DBM actually compresses things more than the original manga did. People are just impatient.
Personally, I don't wait for DBM because I've got lots of other things to do, so I occasionally end up reading a few pages at once after not checking for two weeks or more.
Personally, I don't wait for DBM because I've got lots of other things to do, so I occasionally end up reading a few pages at once after not checking for two weeks or more.
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Final Flash...kinda attack
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That shot of Bra in the Final Flash stance... Vegeta must be proud right now.
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I was thinking more like his stance before he annihilated Recoome with a huge blast. But it's the same thing anyway.ryou766 wrote:That shot of Bra in the Final Flash stance... Vegeta must be proud right now.
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I'll go to bat for this series any day of the week, seeing as it's a much more cohesive piece of work than what the franchise is putting out these days, but..I think this is where DBM struggles. I'm not sure if Asura is bound by the page by day format, needing to storyboard the panels in a certain way that conveys things in a very linear way, or if that's just how he works. But something like this could have been executed much better and with fewer panels.
Either way, I hate bra. I hope she loses and I think Cold should be much stronger than he is. I love the final flash though.
Either way, I hate bra. I hope she loses and I think Cold should be much stronger than he is. I love the final flash though.
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He's already too strong and you want him stronger?saiyanvegetable wrote:I'll go to bat for this series any day of the week, seeing as it's a much more cohesive piece of work than what the franchise is putting out these days, but..I think this is where DBM struggles. I'm not sure if Asura is bound by the page by day format, needing to storyboard the panels in a certain way that conveys things in a very linear way, or if that's just how he works. But something like this could have been executed much better and with fewer panels.
Either way, I hate bra. I hope she loses and I think Cold should be much stronger than he is. I love the final flash though.
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There is no way to convey the idea that Bra managed to slowly gain the upper hand with her skill in the exchange, and show clearly how she did it, in much fewer panels.saiyanvegetable wrote:I'll go to bat for this series any day of the week, seeing as it's a much more cohesive piece of work than what the franchise is putting out these days, but..I think this is where DBM struggles. I'm not sure if Asura is bound by the page by day format, needing to storyboard the panels in a certain way that conveys things in a very linear way, or if that's just how he works. But something like this could have been executed much better and with fewer panels.
Either way, I hate bra. I hope she loses and I think Cold should be much stronger than he is. I love the final flash though.
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Sure there is. Focus alternating panels on her hands in between wide shots. Shade her blasts differently and depict an increasing number of her shots in the wide angles. 2-3 pages tops. In fact, doing that would have been better to demonstrate what she's doing anyway. Having other characters narrate her strategy violates show don't tell. If not for Uub we'd have no idea what was happening.
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Yeah XV does the same pose with balls of ki already out and it's refereed to as Final Flash.Lord Beerus wrote:I was thinking more like his stance before he annihilated Recoome with a huge blast. But it's the same thing anyway.ryou766 wrote:That shot of Bra in the Final Flash stance... Vegeta must be proud right now.
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Frieza was the best villain and his race was so obscenely strong without really training much. Might be biased here but these were the fucking emperors of the universe, I was hoping Cold would come back in a big way (Like, grandaddy end of the game Boss big) seeing as how he wasn't used at all in Z.miguelnuva1 wrote:He's already too strong and you want him stronger?saiyanvegetable wrote:I'll go to bat for this series any day of the week, seeing as it's a much more cohesive piece of work than what the franchise is putting out these days, but..I think this is where DBM struggles. I'm not sure if Asura is bound by the page by day format, needing to storyboard the panels in a certain way that conveys things in a very linear way, or if that's just how he works. But something like this could have been executed much better and with fewer panels.
Either way, I hate bra. I hope she loses and I think Cold should be much stronger than he is. I love the final flash though.
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King Cold is weaker than Freeza outside of Salagir's fan fiction.
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2-3 pages wouldn't effectively show that she slowly gained the upper hand in the exchange. Nor would it be as good in showing us what she did, namely her movements. And without someone like Uub explaining that she's adding attacks of her own, which allows to just waste a single panel showing that, a greater visual explanation would be required for it to be clear, which means more panels, not less.TonyTheTiger wrote:Sure there is. Focus alternating panels on her hands in between wide shots. Shade her blasts differently and depict an increasing number of her shots in the wide angles. 2-3 pages tops. In fact, doing that would have been better to demonstrate what she's doing anyway. Having other characters narrate her strategy violates show don't tell. If not for Uub we'd have no idea what was happening.
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It might take more panels but not a whole lot of pages. Panel layout in a comic book, and big things like splash pages, aren't just stylistic choices. They have a profound impact on the pacing of a story.
Here's something happening "gradually":

While in this case it's happening fast in "real time" the panel structure is clearly slowed down for our benefit. We're seeing it happen gradually because it's unfolding from Flash's point of view, which to him is slow as hell. This is a clear demonstration of slow progress and doesn't need another character to tell us what's happening. We can see it for ourselves and feel the pacing. I think Salagir took the easy way out by not directing that this information should be included in the panels, instead opting to interrupt the fight to tell us what could have otherwise been obvious.
Here's something happening "gradually":

While in this case it's happening fast in "real time" the panel structure is clearly slowed down for our benefit. We're seeing it happen gradually because it's unfolding from Flash's point of view, which to him is slow as hell. This is a clear demonstration of slow progress and doesn't need another character to tell us what's happening. We can see it for ourselves and feel the pacing. I think Salagir took the easy way out by not directing that this information should be included in the panels, instead opting to interrupt the fight to tell us what could have otherwise been obvious.
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That's a problem with Dragon Ball as a whole. It relies overmuch on the peanut gallery telling us what happened, instead of trusting the audience to understand what they just saw. It just kills pacing.
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