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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Thu Feb 04, 2016 7:39 pm

ThePiccolo wrote:New Matches
1. SSJ2 Goku (Boo Saga) vs SSJ2 Kid Gohan (Rage Boost) and SSJ2 Vegeta (Boo Arc, pre-Majin)
2. Oozaru Nappa vs Recoome
3. SSJ Goku (Cell Games) vs SSJ Teen Gohan (25th Budokai)
4. Movie 10 LSSJ Broly vs Super Perfect Cell
5. Goku (Saiyan Saga, post Kaio training) vs Guldo
6. Piccolo (Cell Games) vs SSJ Grade 2 Vegeta (Post 1st RoSaT)
7. SSJ Gotenks (Post training) vs SSJ3 Goku (Boo Saga)
8. Ginyu vs Oozaru Vegeta (Saiyan Saga, and assume it's the same one we see in the show, not a fully healed Oozaru Vegeta)
- Goku has a slight advantage over the other two but it isn't enough to overcome them both at the same time.
- Nappa wins through size and durability.
- Gohan is stronger but Goku is more skilled. Tough call, but I'm gonna say that Gohan's power advantage let's him win the fight.
- Broly no contest. My numbers place him a bit higher than SS2 Goku and Majin Vegeta.
- Goku's got a power advantage, especially with the Kaioken, but Ghurd's psychic powers are pretty potent. Another tough call, but I'm betting Goku would be skilled enough to work around his unique abilities.
- The two are more-or-less equal, but Piccolo wins by letting Vegeta wear himself out.
- Goku still holds a pretty big power advantage and Gotenks isn't smart enough to try to wear him down. Goku schools the fused twerp.
- My made-up numbers put a beaten up and tired Oozaru Vegeta at around 90,000. Ginyu has more than enough power to beat the big monkey.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Feb 04, 2016 7:45 pm

ThePiccolo wrote:1. SSJ2 Goku (Boo Saga) vs SSJ2 Kid Gohan (Rage Boost) and SSJ2 Vegeta (Boo Arc, pre-Majin)
2. Oozaru Nappa vs Recoome
3. SSJ Goku (Cell Games) vs SSJ Teen Gohan (25th Budokai)
4. Movie 10 LSSJ Broly vs Super Perfect Cell
5. Goku (Saiyan Saga, post King Kai training) vs Guldo
6. Piccolo (Cell Games) vs SSJ Grade 2 Vegeta (Post 1st RoSaT)
7. SSJ Gotenks (Post training) vs SSJ3 Goku (Boo Saga)
8. Ginyu vs Oozaru Vegeta (Saiyan Saga, and assume it's the same one we see in the show, not a fully healed Oozaru Vegeta)
- I don't know how much of a difference Gohan would make in the battle since both Goku and Vegeta are stronger than him by a decent amount. I think Goku take out Gohan comfortably first, and then he and Vegeta duke it out to the very end. At that stage, it's a "flip a coin" match because SSJ2 Goku and SSJ2 Vegeta are dead even.
- Recoome gets crushed. I think this may have been a dub line, but IIRC, when Captain Ginyu estimates Goku's power level to be at around 60,000, which is watch Oozaru Nappa would have been hypothetically, Jeice exclaims that Recoome never stood a chance.
- Gohan get's schooled by his dad.
- SPC gets wasted
- goku gets stomped
- Gotenks one shots. Hell, Daizenshuu 7 outright says this, "The two entered the Room of Spirit and Time, and hurriedly trained as Gotenks. As a result, Gotenks leveled up so much that his strength surpassed Vegeta and the others."
- Hmm. I'd have a weakened Oozaru Vegeta around 80-90,000, so Ginyu takes this.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Draconic » Thu Feb 04, 2016 7:52 pm

ThePiccolo wrote: New Matches
1. SSJ2 Goku (Boo Saga) vs SSJ2 Kid Gohan (Rage Boost) and SSJ2 Vegeta (Boo Arc, pre-Majin)
2. Oozaru Nappa vs Recoome
3. SSJ Goku (Cell Games) vs SSJ Teen Gohan (25th Budokai)
4. Movie 10 LSSJ Broly vs Super Perfect Cell
5. Goku (Saiyan Saga, post King Kai training) vs Guldo
6. Piccolo (Cell Games) vs SSJ Grade 2 Vegeta (Post 1st RoSaT)
7. SSJ Gotenks (Post training) vs SSJ3 Goku (Boo Saga)
8. Ginyu vs Oozaru Vegeta (Saiyan Saga, and assume it's the same one we see in the show, not a fully healed Oozaru Vegeta)
1. Goku and Gohan should be pretty evenly matched, but Goku would probably win due to being the much better fighter. However, with Vegeta on top, who is not that far below them, the team takes this.
2. I still think Recoome is a tad stronger than Oozaru Nappa and it certainly doesn't help that Nappa would be a huge and slow(er) target.
3. I don't think Gohan lost any of his SSJ power between sagas and only his SSJ2 was affected, so he should still be above CG Goku, however, Goku takes this due to Gohan being both rusty and a poorer fighter.
4. Broly is probably a tad stronger, but I don't think he would have what it takes to fully destroy Cell, who would just keep regenerating. Cell also has a huge arsenal of dangerous moves at his disposal. Plus, I don't think even M10 Broly could stand up to a Kamehameha in the same vein as the one Cell shot at Gohan. Cell takes this.
5. Goku stomps hard. Guldo might catch him off guard with his time-freezing thing, but he wouldn't have what it takes to kill Goku in that time. Then, Goku just speed-blitzes him with a Kaioken before he could conjure another freezing move.
6. Goku noted that Piccolo had amazing strength after he came out of the ROSAT and also Vegeta's power after the first trip in there. I think this is a very close match, but as long as he is not caught in a Final Flash, I think Piccolo has the skill to take this.
7. They are close in power, with Gotenks probably having a tiny advantage, but Goku is skilled enough to at least stall Gotenks enough for him to defuse. If defusing is not allowed, I think it's fair to give Goku no time restraints on Earth and his dead body, which keeps the same gap as the first time. Goku takes this either way, though it will be a tough battle.
8. I think even though Vegeta would have a higher battle power than Ginyu, that the Captain has what it takes to stand up to him even if he wasn't injured. However, injured Oozaru Vegeta is probably about half of Ginyu's power and he takes this hands down. Would removing the tail be allowed? Since I think Ginyu would probably know about that too, which makes this even more one-sided.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:22 pm

Lord Beerus wrote: - I don't know how much of a difference Gohan would make in the battle since both Goku and Vegeta are stronger than him by a decent amount. I think Goku take out Gohan comfortably first, and then he and Vegeta duke it out to the very end. At that stage, it's a "flip a coin" match because SSJ2 Goku and SSJ2 Vegeta are dead even.
Vegeta only became on par with Goku after becoming a Majin. Before that, Goku still held a fair advantage.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kaboom » Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:01 pm

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:Where does this forms of Hypothetical Gogeta (Boo Arc) stop in this gaunlet ?
— Super Saiyan Gogeta blazes through the list and finishes by edging out a tough victory over Gotenks-Boo. He only has a 50/50 chance of beating Gohan-Boo.
— Super Saiyan 2 Gogeta charges through everyone up to and including Gohan-Boo. He hits a brick wall against Super Vegetto, whom he can give a half-decent fight but is just plain outclassed.
— Super Saiyan 3 Gogeta is only bested by Super Saiyan 3 Vegetto, who is several times stronger than him and beats him easily.
Pocket-God wrote:Kami vs Guru
Base Vegeta vs Android 19 (Vegeta post 450x gravity training)
Nail vs Recoome
Bojack vs Broly
Base Gohan vs Tenshinhan (Rusty Gohan after 7 years of not training after beating Cell, end of Z Tenshinhan)
Freeza vs Android 20 (Namek saga Freeza)
Demigra vs Golden Freeza
Paikuhan vs Hatchiyak
SS5 Goku vs SS4 Gogeta
Chichi vs Yajirobe
Master Roshi vs Zarbon (RoF Master Roshi)
Zangya vs Android 18
— Despite being mostly immobile, we've seen that the Grand Elder can at least lift his arms. That's all he'd need to do to blast away the vastly weaker God of Earth with a kiai.
— When the heck did Vegeta go higher than 300Gs for his training? If this is supposed to be his post-training Android arc self... then he definitely needs Super Saiyan to win. Putting aside surprise attacks, Android 19 probably isn't all that far behind Freeza, and thanks to BoG we know Vegeta has a LOOONG way to go before he reaches that power range in base.
— I think Nail can definitely beat any of the Ginyu Force trio one-on-one.
— Movie 8 Broli is equal to Bojack in power, but gets outsmarted and outmaneuvered and loses. Movie 10 Broli turns Bojack's head into a spray of red mist.
— Gohan could go a hundred years without training and still be worlds stronger than Tenshinhan. The overrated Earthling is defeated in one low-effort blow.
— 100% Freeza can win this fight without much trouble as long as he doesn't screw around or let any significant amount of his power get absorbed.
— Demigra's video game character strength is hard to gauge, and I'm not gonna make any assumptions about it. Pass.
— Depends on just how much "stronger than Broli" Hachiyak ended up. Unless he surpasses Super Perfect Cell, I don't think he's going to beat Paikuhan.
— Fanon AF forms are dumb. Pass.
— Depends on what part of the series Yajirobe's plucked from. His training before the Saiyans' invasion pushed him up to a PL of almost 1,000. That's plenty to completely pwn Chi-Chi's PL of 100-something.
— Roshi's apparently stronger than I used to be, but I don't think he's any higher than a PL of a few thousand. Zarbon's PL of 23,000 is still way too much for him to handle.
— Assuming Bojack's crew are all of similar strength, then Zangya's capable of going mano-a-mano with Cell Games level Super Saiyans. Android 18 would get smoked.
ThePiccolo wrote:1. SSJ2 Goku (Boo Saga) vs SSJ2 Kid Gohan (Rage Boost) and SSJ2 Vegeta (Boo Arc, pre-Majin)
2. Oozaru Nappa vs Recoome
3. SSJ Goku (Cell Games) vs SSJ Teen Gohan (25th Budokai)
4. Movie 10 LSSJ Broly vs Super Perfect Cell
5. Goku (Saiyan Saga, post King Kai training) vs Guldo
6. Piccolo (Cell Games) vs SSJ Grade 2 Vegeta (Post 1st RoSaT)
7. SSJ Gotenks (Post training) vs SSJ3 Goku (Boo Saga)
8. Ginyu vs Oozaru Vegeta (Saiyan Saga, and assume it's the same one we see in the show, not a fully healed Oozaru Vegeta)
1. Gohan's "rage boosts" aren't anything predictable, but even without one, he and Vegeta are both close enough to Goku that they could overwhelm him by working together.
2. As long as Nappa's able to protect his tail, he can win this. They'll be about the same in power level, but Nappa's extra strength and durability from his massive size will give him an added edge.
3. Goku's still a little weaker, but Gohan's dilapidated skills mean Goku could still win. Kind of like with Dabra.
4. Cell is at a distinct power advantage, but he has enough tricks up his sleeves that he might still win. Gonna say it's like 70/30 in Broli's favor.
5. Goku realizes Gurd's a bit stronger than him, so he uses the Kaio-Ken to turn the tables. Gurd escapes Goku's wrath a few times by stopping time, but Goku eventually figures it out. So he then uses a Kaio-Ken x3 to one-hit-KO Gurd before he can even react.
6. Piccolo wins. They're about the same in power, but Grade 2 is going to gradually become a disadvantage for Vegeta.
7. Gotenks is finally a match for Fat Boo now, but still only half as strong as SS3 Goku. He gets pwned in a matter of moments.
8. Kind of like the Nappa vs Recoome fight above, except Vegeta actually has a sizable power advantage (180k vs 120k). So as long as he protects his tail, and Ginyu isn't allowed to body-switch... then Vegeta stomps. Probably literally.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Khin » Fri Feb 05, 2016 2:48 am

Pocket-God wrote:Kami vs Guru
Base Vegeta vs Android 19 (Vegeta post 450x gravity training)
Nail vs Recoome
Bojack vs Broly
Base Gohan vs Tenshinhan (Rusty Gohan after 7 years of not training after beating Cell, end of Z Tenshinhan)
Freeza vs Android 20 (Namek saga Freeza)
Demigra vs Golden Freeza
Paikuhan vs Hatchiyak
SS5 Goku vs SS4 Gogeta
Chichi vs Yajirobe
Master Roshi vs Zarbon (RoF Master Roshi)
Zangya vs Android 18

- Android 19 wrecks.Base Vegeta is only around 4-5 million in the Android Arc.
- Nail wins after a tough battle.
- Which Broli.Movie 8 or 10 ? Movie 8 Broli loses to Bojack but Movie 10 Broli will squash Bojack like a piece of bug,
- Gohan one shots.Tenshinhan is only 1st From Freeza at best.
- They're about equal in raw power.But Demigra can just mind control Freeza.
- Paikuhan roflstomps.He one shots Super Perfect who Movie 10 Broli is around in power,who Hatchiyak is around in power at best.
- I don't read AF.
- Yajirobe has surpassed Kami in Saiyan Arc and have a PL of around 900 while Chi Chi is around 130 in her prime.Yajirobe finger flicks.
- Roshi was barely beating some several Freeza soldier fodders.Zarbon wins using no effort whatsoever.
- Zangya shitstomps.She's around Cell Games MSSj iter.

ThePiccolo wrote:1. SSJ2 Goku (Boo Saga) vs SSJ2 Kid Gohan (Rage Boost) and SSJ2 Vegeta (Boo Arc, pre-Majin)
2. Oozaru Nappa vs Recoome
3. SSJ Goku (Cell Games) vs SSJ Teen Gohan (25th Budokai)
4. Movie 10 LSSJ Broly vs Super Perfect Cell
5. Goku (Saiyan Saga, post King Kai training) vs Guldo
6. Piccolo (Cell Games) vs SSJ Grade 2 Vegeta (Post 1st RoSaT)
7. SSJ Gotenks (Post training) vs SSJ3 Goku (Boo Saga)
8. Ginyu vs Oozaru Vegeta (Saiyan Saga, and assume it's the same one we see in the show, not a fully healed Oozaru Vegeta)

- Gohan have rage boost all the time he was SSj2 in Cell Games and Vegeta was slightly stronger than him.Goku gets overwhelmed
- Recoome stomps.He have a slight advantage in raw power here.And Oozaru is slow as hell.
- Even if Gohan is rusty.He still have a huge advantage in power.He wins with mild difficulty.
- Exact equals.But Cell got regeneration and superior intellegence to win against the dumbass Broli.
- Kaioken will be more than enough for Goku to speedblitz and one shot Guldo before he even know what hit him.
- Piccolo got the slight edge in power and would win after a tough battle.
- SSj Gotenks got the edge in power and have the Kamikazee Ghost Attack that almost killed a guy 8x stronger than him.Goku gets squashed.
- Even if Vegeta if fully healed.The Oozaru is too big and slow that Ginyu would be able to switch bodies with him easily.

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Post by apex_pretador » Fri Feb 05, 2016 4:35 am

ThePiccolo wrote: New Matches
1. SSJ2 Goku (Boo Saga) vs SSJ2 Kid Gohan (Rage Boost) and SSJ2 Vegeta (Boo Arc, pre-Majin)
2. Oozaru Nappa vs Recoome
3. SSJ Goku (Cell Games) vs SSJ Teen Gohan (25th Budokai)
4. Movie 10 LSSJ Broly vs Super Perfect Cell
5. Goku (Saiyan Saga, post King Kai training) vs Guldo
6. Piccolo (Cell Games) vs SSJ Grade 2 Vegeta (Post 1st RoSaT)
7. SSJ Gotenks (Post training) vs SSJ3 Goku (Boo Saga)
8. Ginyu vs Oozaru Vegeta (Saiyan Saga, and assume it's the same one we see in the show, not a fully healed Oozaru Vegeta)
1. Team takes him down. But if goku is willing to kill, i'll back him.
2. Nappa has a good power advantage, likely speed advantage but they are close in durability & recoome has the advantage of being smaller. Nappa wins.
3. Goku in a few good hits.
4. Too much power advantage, cell destroys the planet to overcome it, and wins.
5. Guldo easily. He has too many advantage. If he can't bring down goku, then he'd be a waste for the ginyu force. He was dominating 2 people stronger than goku & would've killed them.
6. Piccolo 2 shots.
7. Goku takes down the kids if he goes all out and tries his best.
8. My numbers have him around 60,000.
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Post by Khin » Sat Feb 06, 2016 6:56 am

New Matches
- Perfect Cell vs. MSSj Kid Gohan,Goku,Vegeta,Future Trunks and Piccolo (Cell Games,They go all at once)
- Perfect Cell vs. All 7 Cell Juniors
- Vegeta (Saiyan Arc,No Oozaru) vs. Ghurd
- Piccolo,Kid Gohan,Tenshinhan,Kuririn,Yamcha and Chaozu (Saiyan Arc) vs. 1,000 Freeza mooks (DBS,No Shisami or Tagoma)
- Vegeta and Goku (Saiyan Arc,No Oozaru) vs. Dodoria and Kewi
- SSj/SSj2 ? Gohan vs. Dabra (If the fight continued)
- SSj Goku (Yardrat) and SSj Future Trunks (Trunks Arc) vs. Dr.Gero and Android 19 (Post Absorption)
- Imperfect Cell (Ginger Town) vs. SSj Vegeta and SSj Future Trunks (Android Arc)
- 1st Form Freeza (Namek) vs. Pocus
- 1st Form Freeza (Post Training) vs. Ultimate Gohan and SSj3 Gotenks (Post ROSAT)
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Post by apex_pretador » Sat Feb 06, 2016 7:10 am

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:New Matches
- Perfect Cell vs. MSSj Kid Gohan,Goku,Vegeta,Future Trunks and Piccolo (Cell Games,They go all at once)
- Perfect Cell vs. All 7 Cell Juniors
- Vegeta (Saiyan Arc,No Oozaru) vs. Ghurd
- Piccolo,Kid Gohan,Tenshinhan,Kuririn,Yamcha and Chaozu (Saiyan Arc) vs. 1,000 Freeza mooks (DBS)
- Vegeta and Goku (Saiyan Arc) vs. Dodoria and Kewi
- SSj/SSj2 ? Gohan vs. Dabra (If the fight continued)
- SSj Goku (Yardrat) and SSj Future Trunks (Trunks Arc) vs. Dr.Gero and Android 19 (Post Absorption)
- Imperfect Cell (Ginger Town) vs. SSj Vegeta and SSj Future Trunks (Android Arc)
- 1st Form Freeza (Namek) vs. Pocus
- 1st Form Freeza (Post Training) vs. Ultimate Gohan and SSj3 Gotenks (Post ROSAT)
- If goku is serious & gohan is willing to fight, I'll back team. They have some really skilled fighters (assuming cell just doesn't blow up earth)
- Perfect cell can take apart them one by one. Cell jrs are never serious , so they die.
- Vegeta takes him down.
- Assuming no shisami & tagoma, it is a close battle. Krillin will be able to take down about 50-60 before he tires out. Gohan takes about 30 , chiatzu takes 40 , yamcha takes 50 & tien takes 50. So piccolo is left with taking out over 750 mooks. Even if they have PLs in 200s , it is very difficult. However, if piccolo uses that technique he used on goku at 23rd TB, he'd be able to kill most of them in one hit.
It is going to be an interesting battle, I'd love to see it. Or piccolo going super giant & crushing them like bugs.
I'd back 1000 soldiers anyways, due to huge numbers advantage.
- Vegeta makes power ball & literally stomps on them.
- Dabra wasn't tired like gohan & he had spit. He could've won.
- Goku may be able to take this with difficulty, adding trunks certains the win.
- Cell absorbs them both.
- Freeza one shots
- Team are both close in power to him, they may be able to take this if gotenks doesn't kid around.
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Post by Khin » Sat Feb 06, 2016 7:19 am

apex_pretador wrote:
SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:- Vegeta and Goku (Saiyan Arc) vs. Dodoria and Kewi
- Vegeta makes power ball & literally stomps on them.
Forgot to add,but Oozaru is not allowed. :)

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SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:
apex_pretador wrote:
SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:- Vegeta and Goku (Saiyan Arc) vs. Dodoria and Kewi
- Vegeta makes power ball & literally stomps on them.
Forgot to add,but Oozaru is not allowed. :)
dodoria crushes goku, while cui beats vegeta marginally. However, they have a chance with spirit bomb if they get to plan a few minutes.
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- Perfect Cell > MSSj Kid Gohan,Goku,Vegeta,Future Trunks and Piccolo (Cell Games,They go all at once)
- Perfect Cell >. All 7 Cell Juniors
- Vegeta (Saiyan Arc,No Oozaru) < Ghurd
- Piccolo,Kid Gohan,Tenshinhan,Kuririn,Yamcha and Chaozu (Saiyan Arc) >> 1,000 Freeza mooks (DBS,No Shisami or Tagoma)
- Vegeta and Goku (Saiyan Arc,No Oozaru) << Dodoria and Kewi
- SSj/SSj2 ? Gohan << Dabra (If the fight continued)
- SSj Goku (Yardrat) and SSj Future Trunks (Trunks Arc) > Dr.Gero and Android 19 (Post Absorption)
- Imperfect Cell (Ginger Town) > SSj Vegeta and SSj Future Trunks (Android Arc)
- 1st Form Freeza (Namek) >>>>>> Pocus
- 1st Form Freeza (Post Training) <<<<<<<<< Ultimate Gohan and SSj3 Gotenks (Post ROSAT)

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SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:New Matches
- Perfect Cell vs. MSSj Kid Gohan,Goku,Vegeta,Future Trunks and Piccolo (Cell Games,They go all at once)
- Perfect Cell vs. All 7 Cell Juniors
- Vegeta (Saiyan Arc,No Oozaru) vs. Ghurd
- Piccolo,Kid Gohan,Tenshinhan,Kuririn,Yamcha and Chaozu (Saiyan Arc) vs. 1,000 Freeza mooks (DBS,No Shisami or Tagoma)
- Vegeta and Goku (Saiyan Arc,No Oozaru) vs. Dodoria and Kewi
- SSj/SSj2 ? Gohan vs. Dabra (If the fight continued)
- SSj Goku (Yardrat) and SSj Future Trunks (Trunks Arc) vs. Dr.Gero and Android 19 (Post Absorption)
- Imperfect Cell (Ginger Town) vs. SSj Vegeta and SSj Future Trunks (Android Arc)
- 1st Form Freeza (Namek) vs. Pocus
- 1st Form Freeza (Post Training) vs. Ultimate Gohan and SSj3 Gotenks (Post ROSAT)
- Hard to say. I'd like to say that if they fought smart and used perfect teamwork, they could scrape out a win. It would be heavy casualties on the good side, though.
- I don't see the Cell Juniors as being smart or skilled enough to really give their dad much of a workout.
- I'm pretty sure Vegeta is powerful and skilled enough to make quick work of Ghurd.
- Sorry, but the earthlings don't have the sheer power advantage to overcome a 1,000 man army, even if Freeza's soldiers are all rusty and weak.
- The Saiyan's only hope is for Goku to use a x4 Kamehameha straight-out-of-the gate on Dodoria and have Vegeta take on Kiwi. That or get Vegeta to distract them while Goku charges a Genki Dama. It's possible, but the Saiyan's chances aren't looking good
- I'm one of the people who say that Gohan was only a regular Super Saiyan in his fight with Dabra, and that Dabra was holding back to prolong the fight for his amusement. If Dabra went all out, Gohan gets destroyed. If Gohan can nut up and go SS2, the Dabra gets destroyed.
- As long as the Super Saiyans don't let too much of their ki get absorbed, they would make quick work of the Androids.
- Cell is too crafty a fighter and has too much of a power and ability advantage to let the Super Saiyans double team him. He can easily use the Taiyoken and use their blindness to try and absorb one of them, then use his new power to wipe out the other. Also, Vegeta and Trunks probably don't have the greatest teamwork.
- Pui Pui has no feats beyond growing up in 10Gs, so he's kinda hard to place. My made-up numbers put him at around 180k, so Freeza is gonna tear him an new one.
- This one is really hard to say. I like to think that First Form Freeza is only a bit more powerful than Ultimate Gohan, and if he and Gotenks fight smart(and use the Ghost Kamikaze attack a lot) they have a decent shot at winning. Gohan's rustiness and Gotenks' tendency to screw around doesn't inspire confidence.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ThePiccolo » Sat Feb 06, 2016 11:55 am

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:New Matches
- Perfect Cell vs. MSSj Kid Gohan,Goku,Vegeta,Future Trunks and Piccolo (Cell Games,They go all at once)
- Perfect Cell vs. All 7 Cell Juniors
- Vegeta (Saiyan Arc,No Oozaru) vs. Ghurd
- Piccolo,Kid Gohan,Tenshinhan,Kuririn,Yamcha and Chaozu (Saiyan Arc) vs. 1,000 Freeza mooks (DBS,No Shisami or Tagoma)
- Vegeta and Goku (Saiyan Arc,No Oozaru) vs. Dodoria and Kewi
- SSj/SSj2 ? Gohan vs. Dabra (If the fight continued)
- SSj Goku (Yardrat) and SSj Future Trunks (Trunks Arc) vs. Dr.Gero and Android 19 (Post Absorption)
- Imperfect Cell (Ginger Town) vs. SSj Vegeta and SSj Future Trunks (Android Arc)
- 1st Form Freeza (Namek) vs. Pocus
- 1st Form Freeza (Post Training) vs. Ultimate Gohan and SSj3 Gotenks (Post ROSAT)
- If Cell goes all out, he'd beat the heroes
- Cell stomps his kids
- If Vegeta decided not to play around, he could easily crush Ghurd. But he probably would play around, and my guess if Guldo's paralysis would get the better of Vegeta
- 1000 Freeza mooks would be way too many for our heroes
- I'm backing Dodoria and Kewi on this one
- If it continued, SSJ Gohan's poor skills would probably get him beat by Dabra sooner or later
- Goku and Trunks, if they're careful enough
- If Cell doesn't get crafty here, he's doomed
- Freeza one-shots
- I have Freeza lower than Gohan and Gotenks, so the team stomps, imo.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by emperior » Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:53 pm

New Matches

- Perfect Cell vs. MSSj Kid Gohan,Goku,Vegeta,Future Trunks and Piccolo (Cell Games,They go all at once)
Cell loses. Unless he creates Cell Jrs. But Z Fighters have the warrior's code, they would have never grouped on Cell. At least not Vegeta.

- Perfect Cell vs. All 7 Cell Juniors
Cell wins.

- Vegeta (Saiyan Arc,No Oozaru) vs. Ghurd
Guldo probably wins thanks to his powers. But Vegeta was aware of it and was also very smart. It depends by Vegeta though.

- Piccolo,Kid Gohan,Tenshinhan,Kuririn,Yamcha and Chaozu (Saiyan Arc) vs. 1,000 Freeza mooks (DBS,No Shisami or Tagoma)
Z Fighters win

- Vegeta and Goku (Saiyan Arc,No Oozaru) vs. Dodoria and Kewi
Vegeta and Goku lose

- SSj/SSj2 ? Gohan vs. Dabra (If the fight continued)
SSJ2 Gohan wins

- SSj Goku (Yardrat) and SSj Future Trunks (Trunks Arc) vs. Dr.Gero and Android 19 (Post Absorption)
Goku and Trunks win unless the androids manage to steal their energies

- Imperfect Cell (Ginger Town) vs. SSj Vegeta and SSj Future Trunks (Android Arc)
Cell wins easily

- 1st Form Freeza (Namek) vs. Pocus
Freeza wins

- 1st Form Freeza (Post Training) vs. Ultimate Gohan and SSj3 Gotenks (Post ROSAT)
Freeza is completely wrecked
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Noah » Sat Feb 06, 2016 2:26 pm

emperior wrote:- Perfect Cell vs. MSSj Kid Gohan,Goku,Vegeta,Future Trunks and Piccolo (Cell Games,They go all at once)
Cell loses. Unless he creates Cell Jrs. But Z Fighters have the warrior's code, they would have never grouped on Cell. At least not Vegeta
I don't think so. Vegeta didn't have that "warrior code" when he was fighting against the Ginyu Force and Freeza along with Krillin and Gohan and he helped the Z-Senshi distracting Cell with a blast so Gohan could finish him off.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by In Brightest Day » Sat Feb 06, 2016 4:59 pm

Equal power level fights :

- Mr. Boo (no candy beam) vs. Eighteen.
- Chaozu (Boo arc) vs. Kaioshin.
- Dr. Gero vs. Mercenary Tao.
- Ultimate Son Gohan vs. Future Trunks (Cell Games).
- Krillin (Android arc) vs. Vegeta (Android arc).
- Piccolo ("Kamiccolo") vs. Tenshinhan (Android arc).


Personally, I think Krillin vs Vegeta would be a great fight. The two most crafty and resourceful characters of the entire series going at it. Vegeta is the more brutal and cagey of the two while Krillin is more skilled and level-headed. Vegeta is also notorious for underestimating opponents and there is no way Vegeta would take Krillin seriously; that would cost him dearly against someone like Krillin, in my opinion.

In the end, it wouldn't be enough though. Vegeta is just too resilient for anything Krillin likely has in his arsenal, besides a lucky Kienzan. He wouldn't walk away from the fight easily though.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Sat Feb 06, 2016 5:15 pm

In Brightest Day wrote:Equal power level fights :

- Mr. Boo (no candy beam) vs. Eighteen.
- Chaozu (Boo arc) vs. Kaioshin.
- Dr. Gero vs. Mercenary Tao.
- Ultimate Son Gohan vs. Future Trunks (Cell Games).
- Krillin (Android arc) vs. Vegeta (Android arc).
- Piccolo ("Kamiccolo") vs. Tenshinhan (Android arc).


Personally, I think Krillin vs Vegeta would be a great fight. The two most crafty and resourceful characters of the entire series going at it. Vegeta is the more brutal and cagey of the two while Krillin is more skilled and level-headed. Vegeta is also notorious for underestimating opponents and there is no way Vegeta would take Krillin seriously; that would cost him dearly against someone like Krillin, in my opinion.

In the end, it wouldn't be enough though. Vegeta is just too resilient for anything Krillin likely has in his arsenal, besides a lucky Kienzan. He wouldn't walk away from the fight easily though.
- 18 is probably more skilled, but Boo has regeneration on top of stamina that doesn't go down. 18 only has endless stamina. Eventually, the damage will accumulate, and 18 will go down.
- Okay this one is really hard. My gut tells me Kaioshin would win, so that's who I'm going with.
- Tao Pai Pai has superior skills, whereas Gero has energy absorption capabilities. My money is on Gero.
- Hard to say. Gohan, despite his power-up, would still be pretty rusty in the skill department, but Trunks' Super Saiyan form wold be more draining. Eh, equal power levels would let Trunks take the win.
- Vegeta, as a Saiyan, would be tougher and probably have a sharper fighting instinct. Close one, but Vegeta holds the advantage in my eye.
- Tenshinhan has Kikoho, and that's about it. I have no doubt that Piccolo would dodge it and use his Namekian abilities to his advantage and eventually take Ten out.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by emperior » Sat Feb 06, 2016 5:24 pm

In Brightest Day wrote:Equal power level fights :

- Mr. Boo (no candy beam) vs. Eighteen.
- Chaozu (Boo arc) vs. Kaioshin.
- Dr. Gero vs. Mercenary Tao.
- Ultimate Son Gohan vs. Future Trunks (Cell Games).
- Krillin (Android arc) vs. Vegeta (Android arc).
- Piccolo ("Kamiccolo") vs. Tenshinhan (Android arc).
- Mr Boo wins, 18 has no way of killing him
- Chiaotzu wins because he has better martial arts skills and a variety of moves
- Dr. Gero. He would gain the upper hand absorbing a Dodonpa
- Gohan wins. He has more experience in battles than Trunks
- Vegeta surely wins this one. His battle strategies are incredible and he is very durable
- Piccolo wins. He has a lot more experience than Tenshinan. He is also very intelligent in battles
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hugo Boss » Sat Feb 06, 2016 5:27 pm

Interesting matches :clap:

I guess you wouldn't allow Boo to absorb No.18? If not and assuming he has every other technique Boo had showed in the franchise, I think he could win by destroying the planet.

Kaioshin has some magical skills that could probably outmatch Chaozu's psychic moves, while Chaozu should be more skilled in combat. I'm more inclined to Kaioshin.

Dr. Gero is smarter than Tao, so he would probably grab him, absorb his energy and add it to his own. A decent victory for the android. The mechanical enhancements of Tao wouldn't give him that much of an advantage.

Gohan is less skilled than Future Trunks, who was trained by Gohan himself in his time. Not to mention Future Trunks has a sword. If weapons were not allowed, I guess it would be a bit harder for Future Trunks, but he would still win.

Krillin vs. Vegeta would play exactly as you described in my opinion.

Piccolo can stretch his arms and is more resilient than Tenshinhan. I don't think Piccolo would fall for taiouken. Perhaps kikoho would be trouble, but Piccolo is fast and sturdy enough to handle it.

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