Officially Goku is supposed to be 5'9 (the global average for a man is 5'9, for Caucasians it is 5'10). Gohan is 5'9.25. Goku however, appears to look more like a guy who is 5'7 or 5'8 in most cases. Vegeta is crazy short for males! Saiyans appear to be taller on average from what we've seen, where Raditz looks to be around 6'3 and Nappa almost 7 feet tall. King Vegeta is just as tall as Tenshinhan if not taller if I'm not mistaken. Vegeta is just a really short guy.Chuquita wrote:I don't think it's ever stated anywhere. The height thread above puts Gokû at around 5'8 and Gohan around 5'9 though.Sandubadear wrote:What's the average for Saiyans (who are aliens so Earthly averages don't matter)?Chuquita wrote:I appreciate Vegeta's 5'3/5'4 height. I'm around there (it's the average height for women in the U.S) and it makes it easier to judge heights of places and characters by comparison when I'm drawing.
Vegeta'd be short for a guy even in Japan. The average for men there is 5'7, right?
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Global average is 5'9? That doesn't seem right. Average in the US of A is 5'9.5, and it's one of the tallest countries. The average male height in India (population: 1.25 billion) is only 5'5, while the average height in China (population: 1.35 billion) is 5'7 or 5'8. In fact, besides the USA and Russia, none of the world's top 15 most populated countries have male averages anywhere near 5'9 or 5'10 (Indonesia = 5'2!, Bangladesh = 5'3, Japan = 5'7, Mexico = 5'7, Nigeria = 5'5, etc.).Officially Goku is supposed to be 5'9 (the global average for a man is 5'9, for Caucasians it is 5'10).
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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So, just finished listening to the podcast. Julian's opinions on the movie were welcomed, but I found one tidbit particularly interesting. That being Julian's statement that the film hints/suggests that Freeza was able to control/pick the color of his new form. I'm seriously wondering if he didn't go with gold in-universe just as an attempt to mock the Super Saiyans.
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Anyone got box office numbers for the film yet?
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There are none. The film is not out yet. The synopsis came from a preview screening.dougo13 wrote:Anyone got box office numbers for the film yet?
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It only hit me now that I'm looking at it after making it my phone's background, the reason Gokû looks so short--they drew one base for Vegeta and just flipped it and switched up what the hands were doing for Gokû! They didn't bother drawing a new base when it was time to draw Gokû. That's Gokû with Vegeta's body build!TheDevilsCorpse wrote:I remember Chuquita asking about this when the vegeta portion popped up on Bluma's blog, but I don't remember having seen the full image posted here. Sooo:
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Good eye! Going a step further. Their hands(Goku right and Vegeta left) are 100% alike besides the mic. Damn they were lazy.
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Thank you!TheGmGoken wrote:Good eye! Going a step further. Their hands(Goku right and Vegeta left) are 100% alike besides the mic. Damn they were lazy.
Whoever drew that chose a bad spot to cut corners. A character who's 175cm tall is not the same as one who's 163cm, and it shows.
Well, now I know what Gokû would look like at 5'4 instead of 5'8, I guess.
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Toriyama is a complete hack now.
Spoiler:
"My dear friend, how can I make this even more painful for you? I could crush your hands, rip off both of your ears, or maybe I'll just smash in your tiny little cranium. Ehehehehehehehe."
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"Alright big guy, whatever turns you on."
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Lord Exor wrote:Heck, it's only marginally superior to GT and Fusion Reborn.
marginally superior to GT and Fusion Reborn
Heck yes. Sign me up!superior to Fusion Reborn
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When you say "marginally superior to Fusion Reborn," are you referring to how Frieza's revival is handled, or the plot in general?Lord Exor wrote:Toriyama is a complete hack now.
Spoiler:
"Dragon Ball once became a thing of the past to me, but after that, I got angry about the live action movie, re-wrote an entire movie script, and now I'm complaining about the quality of the new TV anime. It seems Dragon Ball has grown on me so much that I can't leave it alone." - Akira Toriyama on Dragon Ball Super
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So have you actually seen the movie? Or are you just basing this on the summary?Lord Exor wrote:Toriyama is a complete hack now.
Spoiler:
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The summary is explicit enough with regard to the grievances I'm airing.
"My dear friend, how can I make this even more painful for you? I could crush your hands, rip off both of your ears, or maybe I'll just smash in your tiny little cranium. Ehehehehehehehe."
—Frieza
"Alright big guy, whatever turns you on."
—Frieza
—Frieza
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I actually think that the GT version of this is better.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Here's the thing which I find to be equal measures of hilarious and exasperating, Battle of Gods received such a negative response from the portion of fans who preferred Dragonball Z at its more action-orientated, as opposed to light, comic and plot-orientated extents, and it honestly feels like the very people who were calling for a mindless action flick are now berating the guy as being totally out of touch when that's exactly what he's given you.
I honestly get the feeling that Toriyama was under pressure from Toei to deliver something with much more action, so essentially, he's dialed it upto to 11 as a mischievous 'two fingers' to those people.
I honestly get the feeling that Toriyama was under pressure from Toei to deliver something with much more action, so essentially, he's dialed it upto to 11 as a mischievous 'two fingers' to those people.
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That is absolutely something Freeza would do.TheDevilsCorpse wrote:So, just finished listening to the podcast. Julian's opinions on the movie were welcomed, but I found one tidbit particularly interesting. That being Julian's statement that the film hints/suggests that Freeza was able to control/pick the color of his new form. I'm seriously wondering if he didn't go with gold in-universe just as an attempt to mock the Super Saiyans.
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That would be hilarious if true.TheDevilsCorpse wrote:So, just finished listening to the podcast. Julian's opinions on the movie were welcomed, but I found one tidbit particularly interesting. That being Julian's statement that the film hints/suggests that Freeza was able to control/pick the color of his new form. I'm seriously wondering if he didn't go with gold in-universe just as an attempt to mock the Super Saiyans.
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TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
So it seems goku stole future trunks' shoes.
That reminds me,makes you wonder how come their shoes can take such a beating ^^ Since they are always intact lol.
Shirt gets destroyed,pants get ripped but shoes,perfectly fine ^^.
Would have been funny,when nappa got killed by vegeta his boots to drop from the air on the ground hehe.
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That's just your perception. I don't think anyone was calling for a "mindless" action flick. There are good ways and bad ways to do an action movie. Dragonball at its most serious and action orientated is the Saiyan or Cell Saga (but it still has comedy obviously); assuming people want something of that kind of tone, doesn't mean the movie successfully pulled it off. Don't strawman people's preferences.Blade wrote:Here's the thing which I find to be equal measures of hilarious and exasperating, Battle of Gods received such a negative response from the portion of fans who preferred Dragonball Z at its more action-orientated, as opposed to light, comic and plot-orientated extents, and it honestly feels like the very people who were calling for a mindless action flick are now berating the guy as being totally out of touch when that's exactly what he's given you.
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No, I wanted a good movie.Blade wrote:Here's the thing which I find to be equal measures of hilarious and exasperating, Battle of Gods received such a negative response from the portion of fans who preferred Dragonball Z at its more action-orientated, as opposed to light, comic and plot-orientated extents, and it honestly feels like the very people who were calling for a mindless action flick are now berating the guy as being totally out of touch when that's exactly what he's given you.














