The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[apex_pretador]

Captain Silver runs the gauntlet.

- Captain Yellow
- Killer
- General White
- Punter
- Jewel
- Mister Satan
- Videl

White is the strongest here by good deal I believe. I think he was the strongest in that RRA building (except the robot guy).

Ssj 4 Goku (bog) vs Beerus (how many hits does it take Goku to be ko'd and what percent of Beerus)?
Ssj4 broly vs ssj4 Goku and vegeta? ( GT, No fusion)
Ssj4 (Goku, vegeta, gohan, trunks, goten) (bog, no fusion) vs Beerus?
Piccolo (RoF) (merged with all of the namkeians, includes guru and slug. No dende.) vs Vegito base and ssj?

1% beerus 3 - shots

A hypothetical GT broly? He beats the hell out of the two saiyans, and nearly kills them before goku absorbs planetary spirit bomb and kills him in one blow after transforming to his almightly shirtless base form.

1% beerus 10 shots, then fights gohan to a standstill, before powering up & one-shotting him as well.

Even if slug absorbs all the namekians, he will be nowhere near piccolo. If piccolo then absorbs this slug, he may be able to take down fat buu who is << Base vegetto. Also, the boost from namekian fusion will do no good for him at the powerlevel comparable to cell.

[apex_pretador]

Some battles:


1. SS Grade 3 F trunks (CG, no speed-stamina loss) VS SS GOku (CG)

2. SS goten & SS kid trunks & cell jr VS SS gohan (CG, serious)

3. SS Grade 3 GOHAN (CG, no stamina loss) VS Buff form perfect cell (CG)

4. SS Grade 3 Gohan (CG, no speed-stamina loss) VS Full power perfect cell

5. SS Grade 3 F trunks (vs cell, no speed-stamina loss) VS cell jr

6. SS Grade 3 F trunks (CG, no speed-stamina loss) VS M-8 LSS broly

7. SS kid gohan (serious) , SS goku (CG) , SS vegeta (CG) vs bojack (green form)

8. Super buu absorbs the following - [Bojack, FP PC , Dabura , Freeza , #17 , #18 , #19 , #20 , Majin vegeta , Piccolo , SS gotenks (post)] VS base gokuhan (goku x gohan merged potara)

9. Coolza (cooler x freeza potara merged , true form) vs Majin vegeta , no planet destruction

10. 5th form coolza VS SS3 goku

[DanielSSJ]

White is the strongest here by good deal I believe. I think he was the strongest in that RRA building (except the robot guy).

I'm pretty sure the strongest person in muscle tower (excluding Hatchan, Seargeant Metallic, and Buyon) is Murasaki. White is just the guy calling the shots.

Some battles:


1. SS Grade 3 F trunks (CG, no speed-stamina loss) VS SS GOku (CG)

2. SS goten & SS kid trunks & cell jr VS SS gohan (CG, serious)

3. SS Grade 3 GOHAN (CG, no stamina loss) VS Buff form perfect cell (CG)

4. SS Grade 3 Gohan (CG, no speed-stamina loss) VS Full power perfect cell

5. SS Grade 3 F trunks (vs cell, no speed-stamina loss) VS cell jr

6. SS Grade 3 F trunks (CG, no speed-stamina loss) VS M-8 LSS broly

7. SS kid gohan (serious) , SS goku (CG) , SS vegeta (CG) vs bojack (green form)

8. Super buu absorbs the following - [Bojack, FP PC , Dabura , Freeza , #17 , #18 , #19 , #20 , Majin vegeta , Piccolo , SS gotenks (post)] VS base gokuhan (goku x gohan merged potara)

9. Coolza (cooler x freeza potara merged , true form) vs Majin vegeta , no planet destruction

10. 5th form coolza VS SS3 goku

- Trunks wins..
- Goten and Trunks wouldn't even measure up to half of Kid Gohan's power. Gohan wins this one without too much effort.
- I'm operating under the assumption that Grade 3 without speed or stamina issues is more equivalent to Super Saiyan 2. Based on that, Gohan wins rather easily.
- Same as above.
- Grade 3 Trunks is more-or-less even with his Cell Games self. He still loses to the Cell Junior.
- The two are more or less equal, but Trunks wins due to not being a nutter.
- The three of them might be able to work something out if they fight smart and use teamwork. There'll probably be heavy casualties on the the good side, though.
- The people you mentioned are peanuts compared to Boo's power. Gohan alone could handle him. Fusing with Goku would be overkill.
- Coolza ends up a bit stronger than Vegeta, but assuming he still has the stamina issue means that Vegeta would still have a shot at winning.
- Super Coolza isn't anywhere near strong enough to fight against SS3 Goku.

[Pocket-God]

1. SS Grade 3 F trunks (CG, no speed-stamina loss) > SS GOku (CG)

2. SS goten & SS kid trunks & cell jr > SS gohan (CG, serious)

3. SS Grade 3 GOHAN (CG, no stamina loss) < Buff form perfect cell (CG)

4. SS Grade 3 Gohan (CG, no speed-stamina loss) > Full power perfect cell

5. SS Grade 3 F trunks (vs cell, no speed-stamina loss) > cell jr

6. SS Grade 3 F trunks (CG, no speed-stamina loss) < M-8 LSS broly

7. SS kid gohan (serious) , SS goku (CG) , SS vegeta (CG) < bojack (green form)

8. Super buu absorbs the following - [Bojack, FP PC , Dabura , Freeza , #17 , #18 , #19 , #20 , Majin vegeta , Piccolo , SS gotenks (post)] >> base gokuhan (goku x gohan merged potara)

9. Coolza (cooler x freeza potara merged , true form) << Majin vegeta , no planet destruction

10. 5th form coolza <<< SS3 goku

[ThePiccolo]

Ssj 4 Goku (bog) vs Beerus (how many hits does it take Goku to be ko'd and what percent of Beerus)?
Ssj4 broly vs ssj4 Goku and vegeta? ( GT, No fusion)
Ssj4 (Goku, vegeta, gohan, trunks, goten) (bog, no fusion) vs Beerus?
Piccolo (RoF) (merged with all of the namkeians, includes guru and slug. No dende.) vs Vegito base and ssj?

- 1% Beerus, and maybe 2-3 shots
- A hypothetical GT Broly, imo, wouldn't be too strong considering the huge power boost Goku achieved. The heroes stomp
- Beerus still has this
- Piccolo might clear Base Vegito, but gets stomped by SSJ Vegito

Some battles:


1. SS Grade 3 F trunks (CG, no speed-stamina loss) VS SS GOku (CG)

2. SS goten & SS kid trunks & cell jr VS SS gohan (CG, serious)

3. SS Grade 3 GOHAN (CG, no stamina loss) VS Buff form perfect cell (CG)

4. SS Grade 3 Gohan (CG, no speed-stamina loss) VS Full power perfect cell

5. SS Grade 3 F trunks (vs cell, no speed-stamina loss) VS cell jr

6. SS Grade 3 F trunks (CG, no speed-stamina loss) VS M-8 LSS broly

7. SS kid gohan (serious) , SS goku (CG) , SS vegeta (CG) vs bojack (green form)

8. Super buu absorbs the following - [Bojack, FP PC , Dabura , Freeza , #17 , #18 , #19 , #20 , Majin vegeta , Piccolo , SS gotenks (post)] VS base gokuhan (goku x gohan merged potara)

9. Coolza (cooler x freeza potara merged , true form) vs Majin vegeta , no planet destruction

10. 5th form coolza VS SS3 goku

1. Goku's gonna get stomped
2. Gohan takes this
3. Close, but Cell's attacks give him the edge
4. Gohan, unless Cell plays smart
5. Cell Jr stomps Trunks
6. Trunks stomps Broly
7. Bojack should take it
8. Gotenks is the only one that'll give Buu a decent boost. Gohan himself should be able to win
9. Coolza stomps
10. Coolza wins, but not as easily

[Darkron2151]

Some battles:


SS Grade 3 F trunks (CG, no speed-stamina loss) VS SS GOku (CG)
SS goten & SS kid trunks & cell jr VS SS gohan (CG, serious)
SS Grade 3 GOHAN (CG, no stamina loss) VS Buff form perfect cell (CG)
SS Grade 3 Gohan (CG, no speed-stamina loss) VS Full power perfect cell
SS Grade 3 F trunks (vs cell, no speed-stamina loss) VS cell jr
SS Grade 3 F trunks (CG, no speed-stamina loss) VS M-8 LSS broly
SS kid gohan (serious) , SS goku (CG) , SS vegeta (CG) vs bojack (green form)
Super buu absorbs the following - [Bojack, FP PC , Dabura , Freeza , #17 , #18 , #19 , #20 , Majin vegeta , Piccolo , SS gotenks (post)] VS base gokuhan (goku x gohan merged potara)
Coolza (cooler x freeza potara merged , true form) vs Majin vegeta , no planet destruction
5th form coolza VS SS3 goku

1. Goku. He has a sizable strength advantage while also having far better techniques and overall better battle tactics.

2. If it's a serious Gohan, he can beat the trio with fair difficulty if they don't have good teamwork. 7/10 times in Gohan's favor.

3. I have Grade 3 Gohan only a little bit weaker than his enraged SSJ2 self. Certainly enough to trounce Cell, especially without stamina loss.

4. Even more of a stomp in Gohan's favor than the above match up. Pretty much Perfect Cell vs SSJ2 Gohan all over again.

5. CG SSJ Trunks = SSJ Grade 3 Trunks (1st ROSAT) with me, so it plays out exactly like it would've in the manga if the battle had continued. Cell jr takes it.

6. 35 vs. 36 in Broly's favor. Very close.

7. I have Perfect Cell and Bojack as equals in power, but Cell is far more competent and is far more skilled + regeneration. If you would've had the trio vs. Cell, he would've won, but with a brute such as Bojack, they have a good chance with decent teamwork. However, I give the majority of the fights to Bojack. 6/10 in his favor. 8/10 if it were Cell.

8. Buu has no chance. He's even weaker than Buutenks in this scenario, who was said to be beatable if faced up against "Kuhan".

9. Complete stomp in Coolza's favor. I have him more than double Vegeta's power in this case.

10. Not as much of a stomp as the above, but Coolza has a sizable advantage. Enough to win with low difficulty, especially with SSJ3's drawbacks.

[apex_pretador]

1. Super buu vs 2 cell jrs (they can use fusion dance potara)

2. 1st form freeza vs 4 saibaman ( they can use fusion, then use fusion again, to make one being)

3. Buu arc piccolo namekian fusion with perfect cell VS SS3 gotenks

4. Kami & youth daimao potara fusion vs nappa

5. Hypothetical LSS2 broly (M 10) VS SS3 gohan (25th TB)

[dbgtFO]

1. Super buu vs 2 cell jrs (they can use fusion dance potara)

I have Super Buu at 200 and the Cell Juniors at 3. Since the Juniors have equal power, by my Potara Formula, the result would be (A+B)*100, so Super Cell Jr ends up with 600. Super Buu is screwed, but might be capable of absorbing them anyways.

2. 1st form freeza vs 4 saibaman ( they can use fusion, then use fusion again, to make one being)

As we all know first form Freeza is at 530,000, while a Saibaiman has a power level of 1,200. My Fusion Formula is A*50, so let's do the calculations.
4 Saibaimen: 1,200 each.
2 Fused Saibaimen: 60,000 each.
1 Double fused Saibaiman: 3,000,000.
..Freeza is toast.

3. Buu arc piccolo namekian fusion with perfect cell VS SS3 gotenks

Gotenks one-shots.

4. Kami & youth daimao potara fusion vs nappa

Piccolo = 260 < Kami. Potara Formula: (A+B)*100.
(260+260(at the very least!))*100= 52,000.
Nappa is toast even if one doesn't buy his PL of 4,000.

5. Hypothetical LSS2 broly (M 10) VS SS3 gohan (25th TB)

I'm gonna go with Broly here.

[Doctor.]

So how do you guys feel Botamo compares to the likes of Gohan Boo and Super Vegetto?

[Noah]

So how do you guys feel Botamo compares to the likes of Gohan Boo and Super Vegetto?

Is laughable to think that one day we would compare past titans like Super Boo-han and Super Vegetto to a Winnie, the Pooh-like character, but ok:

Botamo is probably strong as Super Boo (no absorptions) but his body is durable and his skills are useful enough to avoid be roflstomped by SBG Goku, so yeah I still think that Boo-han and Vegetto are stronger than him, but they would spend a while to figure out how to defeat him.

[DanielSSJ]

1. Super buu vs 2 cell jrs (they can use fusion dance potara)

2. 1st form freeza vs 4 saibaman ( they can use fusion, then use fusion again, to make one being)

3. Buu arc piccolo namekian fusion with perfect cell VS SS3 gotenks

4. Kami & youth daimao potara fusion vs nappa

5. Hypothetical LSS2 broly (M 10) VS SS3 gohan (25th TB)

- Fusion isn't gonna work well for Cells clones. Evil Boo crushes them.
- Same as above.
- I'm willing to bet that Cell and Piccolo are too different in power and genetic make-up to be optimal fusion partners. The resulting fusion would probably end up being 2 or 3 times as strong as Cell. Gotenks stomps.
- Potara isn't gonna do much for them that recombining wouldn't accomplish. Nappa crushes him.
- Gohan is more powerful, but Broly has better stamina. It's a toss-up, but my money is on Gohan.

[Lord Beerus]

So how do you guys feel Botamo compares to the likes of Gohan Boo and Super Vegetto?

Is laughable to think that one day we would compare past titans like Super Boo-han and Super Vegetto to a Winnie, the Pooh-like character, but ok:.

And yet a fat pink blob wearing a cape was multiple time strongers than Cell, Gohan, Vegeta, Goku and a literal God.

[Noah]

And yet a fat pink blob wearing a cape was multiple time strongers than Cell, Gohan, Vegeta, Goku and a literal God.

Boo was original, mate. I never disliked his appearance, I thought first it was pretty funny because the plot was hyping him to have some type of evil demon design, but having instead a weird pink fat clown was a villain was good for a change, but Botamo? His design is pretty unoriginal IMO

[Lord Beerus]

And yet a fat pink blob wearing a cape was multiple time strongers than Cell, Gohan, Vegeta, Goku and a literal God.

Boo was original, mate. I never disliked his appearance, I thought first it was pretty funny because the plot was hyping him to have some type of evil demon design, but having instead a weird pink fat clown was a villain as good for a change, but Botamo? His design is pretty unoriginal IMO

Nothing is original. Especially within Dragon Ball. Majin Boo was just a basically a combination of Cell, Freeza and King Piccolo.

[Noah]

Nothing is original. Especially within Dragon Ball. Majin Boo was just a basically a combination of Cell, Freeza and King Piccolo.

I was talking about his design, not his personalities at all, anyway:

New matches:

- SSJ Grade 2 Goku (Cell Games) vs. Perfect Cell

- SSJ Grade 2 Gohan (Cell Games) vs. Full Power Perfect Cell

- SSJ Grade 3 Gohan (Cell Games) vs. Perfect Cell Power Weighted

- Rage Boost SSJ2 Gohan (Boo Arc) vs. Majin SSJ2 Vegeta
Note: Goku says that when angry Gohan could defeat anyone he wants was he including himself and Vegeta? (before he acknowledge Majin Boo power)

- Golden Freeza vs. Final Form Frost

- SSJ3 Goku (Universe 6 Arc) x Beerus (60% Full Power)

- SSGSS Goku or/and Vegeta (Post RoSaT) vs. Champa (Full Power)

- SSGSS Goku or/and Vegeta (Post RoSaT) vs. Beerus (Full Power)

[Lord Beerus]

Nothing is original. Especially within Dragon Ball. Majin Boo was just a basically a combination of Cell, Freeza and King Piccolo.

I was talking about his design, not his personalities at all

So was I. Majin Boo has King Piccolo's cape, Freeza's ears, Android 19's facial structure and size, with Cell's abilities throw in the mix.

[Noah]

So was I. Majin Boo has King Piccolo's cape, Freeza's ears, Android 19's facial structure and size, with Cell's abilities throw in the mix.

These I could take as inspirations or ways to design a character rather than just copy of others, I know you're trying to defend Botamo, but I just think Boo had a more interesting design than him.

[In Brightest Day]

A few more equal battle power fights :

- Android #16 vs. Son Goku (23rd Budokai).
- Lord Beerus vs. Vegetto.
- LSSJ Broly vs. Nappa.
- Future Trunks (Cell Games) vs. Yamcha (Cell Games).
- Son Goten (25th Budokai) vs. Nam.
- Kid Buu vs. Piccolo (Buu arc).
- Pikkon vs. Tien (Revival of F).

[Khin]

A few more equal battle power fights :

- Android #16 vs. Son Goku (23rd Budokai).
- Lord Beerus vs. Vegetto.
- LSSJ Broly vs. Nappa.
- Future Trunks (Cell Games) vs. Yamcha (Cell Games).
- Son Goten (25th Budokai) vs. Nam.
- Kid Buu vs. Piccolo (Buu arc).
- Paikuhan vs. Tenshinhan (Revival of F).

- 16 due to unlimited stamina.
- Beerus destroys the planet and make Vegetto suffocate in space.
- Nappa's strongest attack was about to do some serious damage to Goku who is 2x stronger than him.Nappa wrecks the overhyped Saiya-jin.
- I'd give this to Yamcha.Trunks doesn't seem to be a smart fighter.
- Nam due to Goten having almost no experience or skill whatsoever.
- Pure Boo turns Piccolo into candy.
- Paikuhan gets disintegrated by a well aimed Kikoho.


So with new spoilers.Here's some matches.
- Botamo vs. Base Goku (BOG Arc,Post God)
- First Form Frost vs. SSjG Goku
- Third Form Frost vs. Final Form Freeza (Post Training)
- SSj Goku (Champa Arc) vs. SSj Blue Goku (ROF Arc)
- SSj Blue Goku (Champa Arc) vs. Golden Freeza (No stamina issues)

[Pocket-God]

Super buu >>> 2 cell jrs (they can use potara)

1st form freeza >>> 4 saibaman ( they can use fusion, then use fusion again, to make one being)

Buu arc piccolo namekian fusion with perfect cell <<< SS3 gotenks

Kami & youth daimao potara fusion <<< nappa

Hypothetical LSS2 broly (M 10) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> SS3 gohan (25th TB)

SSJ Grade 2 Goku (Cell Games) < Perfect Cell

SSJ Grade 2 Gohan (Cell Games) < Full Power Perfect Cell

SSJ Grade 3 Gohan (Cell Games) < Perfect Cell Power Weighted

Rage Boost SSJ2 Gohan (Boo Arc) > Majin SSJ2 Vegeta

Golden Freeza >> Final Form Frost

SSJ3 Goku (Universe 6 Arc) >> Beerus (60% Full Power)

SSGSS Goku and Vegeta (Post RoSaT) > Champa (Full Power)

SSGSS Goku and Vegeta (Post RoSaT) > Beerus (Full Power)

Botamo << Base Goku (BOG Arc,Post God)

First Form Frost <<< SSjG Goku

Third Form Frost > Final Form Freeza (Post Training)

SSj Goku (Champa Arc) < SSj Blue Goku (ROF Arc)

SSj Blue Goku (Champa Arc) < Golden Freeza (No stamina issues)


A few more equal battle power fights

- Android #16 > Son Goku (23rd Budokai).
- Lord Beerus < Vegetto.
- LSSJ Broly > Nappa.
- Future Trunks (Cell Games) < Yamcha (Cell Games).
- Son Goten (25th Budokai) < Nam.
- Kid Buu >> Piccolo (Buu arc).
- Paikuhan < Tenshinhan (Revival of F)