Dragonball Kai (FUNimation English) Dub: General Discussion

[Kendamu]

But those were the only 2 dialogue gripes that stuck out in my mind. There WAS the changing of Gohan's word game to stuff about never giving up. But, well...That was kind of to be expected.

They could've easily changed that to another game. Seriously, I'd have thought it was really cool if Gohan suddenly was like, "I spy, with my little eye, something blue! Okay, fine! I spy, with my little eye..." and then the scene changes or something. It would've had the same effect since the word game from the Japanese version.

The "I'll never give up speech," wasn't a horrible replacement, but it would've been so much better with a game there instead. They did so well with other things that didn't have a good English translation so it just seems like a missed opportunity.

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you. When I said "That was kind of to be expected", I meant that I had a feeling that would be the case. Not that I thought it was needed.

No worries. I was actually agreeing with you. It was a "While we're on the subject" sort of thing.

Anywho, I've posted another short clip:

- It's a ringtone! Kaiou-sama keeps up with the times!

[Khalid Shahin]

Anywho, I've posted another short clip: It's a ringtone! Kaiou-sama keeps up with the times!

I'm surprised he gets reception, must be those antennas. </joke possibly lamer than King Kai's>

Something about Sean Schemmel's performance this time around for King Kai seems significantly better, but I can't put my finger on it. Is it that they have slightly more realistic voices?

[Metalwario64]

- It's a ringtone! Kaiou-sama keeps up with the times!

That is fucking hilarious!

[penguintruth]

- It's a ringtone! Kaiou-sama keeps up with the times!

I don't know what's more annoying, the change or that Kaio-sama voice.

Especially since Kaio-samma's ringtone would obviously be Jay-Z's "99 Problems".

[Big Momma]

- It's a ringtone! Kaiou-sama keeps up with the times!

I don't know what's more annoying, the change or that Kaio-sama voice.

Especially since Kaio-samma's ringtone would obviously be Jay-Z's "99 Problems".

"I got 99 problems but a space pirate ain't-"

"Y'AAARRRRGH!"

"SHUT UP, BOJACK!"

[Blue]

Anywho, I've posted another short clip: It's a ringtone! Kaiou-sama keeps up with the times!

I'm surprised he gets reception, must be those antennas. </joke possibly lamer than King Kai's>

Sorry to disappoint you but season 3 Funi got there first.

Edit: Yeah Kaio does sound a lot less...mush mouthy in that clip.

Kaio has one big ol' cell phone.

[Gaffer Tape]

Ugh, he sounds just as obnoxious as ever. After ten and a half years of painstaking and laborious study on the subject, I have finally reached a conclusion: Sean Schemmel's Kaio isn't an acting voice. It's the kind of purposely bad imitation voice one does in conversation when he's trying to make someone else look stupid. Really high pitched? Check. Speech impediment? Check. Grating to listen to for more than three seconds? Check.
And, yes, I know I stole this idea from the Nostalgia Critic, but that's what makes it so genius.

[Innagadadavida]

I've never had a problem with King Kai's voice. Yeah he doesn't sound like Kaio. They're two different takes on the character and I enjoy both.

[Gaffer Tape]

To me, it's not that he doesn't sound like Kaio. In the first two seasons, he didn't sound like Kaio, but at least he didn't sound like an idiot, and his voice wasn't obnoxiously grating.

[Blue]

I've never had a problem with King Kai's voice. Yeah he doesn't sound like Kaio. They're two different takes on the character and I enjoy both.

Even without comparing it to Japanese Kaio it's pretty annoying by itself. It's as if Sean designed it to be literally the most annoying voice ever. A lispy mush mouth gurgle filled mess. It's still better then Recoome or Killa though.

[Mewzard]

I've never had a problem with King Kai's voice. Yeah he doesn't sound like Kaio. They're two different takes on the character and I enjoy both.

Even without comparing it to Japanese Kaio it's pretty annoying by itself. It's as if Sean designed it to be literally the most annoying voice ever. A lispy mush mouth gurgle filled mess. It's still better then Recoome or Killa though.

A blue catfish-esque alien who tells bad jokes? Getting an annoying voice? No way!

At least there's now a good script behind the annoyance.

[jjgp1112]

I've never had a problem with King Kai's voice. Yeah he doesn't sound like Kaio. They're two different takes on the character and I enjoy both.

This is pretty much what I've always thought. It's a perfectly good voice for him in my opinion, cause after a while, King Kai became nothing more than a blue fat fuck with a terrible sense of humor.

There really wasn't anything in those clips that pointed to this dub being better than Z's, but they were quite short.

Schemmel's Goku is way too deep in the second clip.

Jesus Christ, does Goku have to sound like he's sucking up helium every time he talks or something? Give it a break.

[Big Momma]

There really wasn't anything in those clips that pointed to this dub being better than Z's, but they were quite short.

Schemmel's Goku is way too deep in the second clip.

Jesus Christ, does Goku have to sound like he's sucking up helium every time he talks or something? Give it a break.

Calm down, man. No need to get worked up over that and start something. I personally think his voice was kind deep in that part, as well. Compared to other clips I've seen.

[Kendamu]

- It's a ringtone! Kaiou-sama keeps up with the times!

That is fucking hilarious!

And now that impression he makes is my ringtone. No, not the actual generic ringtone, but Kaio doing it! That's my ringtone!

[penguintruth]

]Jesus Christ, does Goku have to sound like he's sucking up helium every time he talks or something? Give it a break.

No, he has to sound like Goku, like Goku might sound. That voice is just wrong. Not to mention completely different than the voice Schemmel used for other parts of this dub. A little consistency might help, so I can know whether he's gotten better, or he's still crappy as Goku.

And King Kai's dub voice has always been fucking terrible and embarrassing, in both the Ocean and in-house Funimation dub. A "zany cartoon character" voice more appropriate for Looney Toons. That it continues to be this in the Kai dub is definitely a strike against it.

[Gozar]

A "zany cartoon character" voice more appropriate for Looney Toons. That it continues to be this in the Kai dub is definitely a strike against it.

Aaaaand...The noises that Nozawa makes when running (Like when chasing Bubbles for example) aren't "zany cartoon-esque"?

[jjgp1112]

]Jesus Christ, does Goku have to sound like he's sucking up helium every time he talks or something? Give it a break.

No, he has to sound like Goku, like Goku might sound. That voice is just wrong. Not to mention completely different than the voice Schemmel used for other parts of this dub. A little consistency might help, so I can know whether he's gotten better, or he's still crappy as Goku.

And King Kai's dub voice has always been fucking terrible and embarrassing, in both the Ocean and in-house Funimation dub. A "zany cartoon character" voice more appropriate for Looney Toons. That it continues to be this in the Kai dub is definitely a strike against it.

The voice doesn't have to sound exactly like Mosako Nozawa to be "correct." Getting the personality right is more important than imitating the original voice. Which, by the way, ISN'T the factually correct voice, since the manga is the true original and doesn't have any actual voices.

[penguintruth]

A "zany cartoon character" voice more appropriate for Looney Toons. That it continues to be this in the Kai dub is definitely a strike against it.

Aaaaand...The noises that Nozawa makes when running (Like when chasing Bubbles for example) aren't "zany cartoon-esque"?

Goku is all about his personality overcoming his physicality.

Kaio is a little silly, but he's also a wise sage with a serious role, and the humor of him comes off better when he has a deeper voice. If he SOUNDS overly silly it makes him less funny, it oversaturates. It's overselling him as a gag character.

The voice doesn't have to sound exactly like Mosako Nozawa to be "correct." Getting the personality right is more important than imitating the original voice. Which, by the way, ISN'T the factually correct voice, since the manga is the true original and doesn't have any actual voices.

Except that this isn't the manga, this is the TV show, and that was the intended direction for the voice in the TV show.

Sean Schemmel has gotten better at capturing Goku's personality, but he's still not that great at it, and in the clip I commented on, he doesn't even sound like what he sounded like in previous clips, so even the usual voice aside, it was an example of inconsistency.

[jjgp1112]

The voice doesn't have to sound exactly like Mosako Nozawa to be "correct." Getting the personality right is more important than imitating the original voice. Which, by the way, ISN'T the factually correct voice, since the manga is the true original and doesn't have any actual voices.

Except that this isn't the manga, this is the TV show, and that was the intended direction for the voice in the TV show.

Sean Schemmel has gotten better at capturing Goku's personality, but he's still not that great at it, and in the clip I commented on, he doesn't even sound like what he sounded like in previous clips, so even the usual voice aside, it was an example of inconsistency.

If Goku's in a situation where he's just talking, than by all means he should be allowed to talk in a normal male speaking voice rather than saying every single line with his, "HAI GAIZ I'm GOKU!!!!11!!" voice.

It's all about making a character into your OWN role, rather than imitating someone else's performance.

[NeoKING]

]Jesus Christ, does Goku have to sound like he's sucking up helium every time he talks or something? Give it a break.

No, he has to sound like Goku, like Goku might sound. That voice is just wrong. Not to mention completely different than the voice Schemmel used for other parts of this dub. A little consistency might help, so I can know whether he's gotten better, or he's still crappy as Goku.

And King Kai's dub voice has always been fucking terrible and embarrassing, in both the Ocean and in-house Funimation dub. A "zany cartoon character" voice more appropriate for Looney Toons. That it continues to be this in the Kai dub is definitely a strike against it.

You might as well stop caring about a dub of anything Dragon Ball in any language completely. And besides, it was an ad-lib line, voice actors tend to let their natural voices slide in when it comes to ad-libs.