Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" Dub Turns 15; Still Unreleased

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[90sDBZ]

So that rules him out. Or at least I think it does. Anyway I was thinking about who they should get to voice Trunks. Lots of people have said they should get Kirby Morrow but I for one don't think he'd be right for Trunks. The main problem with his Goku is that he sounded too calm and laid back but Trunks is supposed to be a more serious and intense character so I really don't see why people say that. Plus it would just feel really weird hearing Goku's old voice coming from Trunks and just wouldn't feel right. Morrow as Trunks would be a worse casting choice than Morrow as Goku even though he was one of the few good actors in the Westwood dub.

Anyway I think they'd be better off getting Brian Drummond to do Trunks. He could use his Vegito voice and it would fit perfectly. Plus it would make sense seeing as Vegeta is Trunks' father. To be honest I don't know why they didn't do that with the Westwood dub. Of course then they'd have to do something different with Vegito. Perhaps just do the double voice thing.

[TheBlackPaladin]

So that rules him out. Or at least I think it does.

Probably, but not necessarily. Like OmegaRockman said, he could just be lying in order to obey his NDA.

Still, although I could be wrong, I agree with you that this means it's likely not Cox. So, my bet is on Alessandro Juliani now...

[Solidus]

I'm surprised he doesn't know anything about the Ocean dub Kai (if he's not lying). Even he wasn't cast as Goku, I thought that he might have some role in the dub or at the very least attended an audition for a role/roles. Maybe he's being quite due to the NDA, Morrow got in trouble over it so I highly doubt the new Goku VA will openly say they got role, even McNeil has quietened down about the dub recently.

I was looking at 'You know who's' twitter and he mentions Michael Dobson as Nappa. I wonder whether he's referring to Kai or the Saban dub. You'd more likely think of something you did a few months ago a opposed to over 15 years ago, but who knows, I doubt you'd mention someone else with a strict NDA like this.

[TheBlackPaladin]

I'm surprised he doesn't know anything about the Ocean dub Kai (if he's not lying). Even he wasn't cast as Goku, I thought that he might have some role in the dub or at the very least attended an audition for a role/roles. Maybe he's being quite due to the NDA, Morrow got in trouble over it so I highly doubt the new Goku VA will openly say they got role, even McNeil has quietened down about the dub recently.

I was looking at 'You know who's' twitter and he mentions Michael Dobson as Nappa. I wonder whether he's referring to Kai or the Saban dub. You'd more likely think of something you did a few months ago a opposed to over 15 years ago, but who knows, I doubt you'd mention someone else with a strict NDA like this.

Kirbopher mentioned that Kirby Morrow apparently got in *major* trouble for revealing everything that he revealed about the Ocean dub of Kai (including the fact there was going to be one). Kirby said at the time that he revealed all this that, "I didn't sign anything that says I couldn't talk about this." Either he was wrong, or he was right and he got in trouble anyway...I wouldn't be surprised if it was the latter, as I've heard of voice actors getting in trouble even for revealing projects that were in the public domain.

I suspect that the reason McNeil has quieted down about it (including that one video where, before he mouthed that he was working on Kai, he said, "I'm gonna get in so much trouble for this...") is because someone told him to quiet down about it. Methinks he got an upset email/phone call/talk about what he's revealed so far.

[Fennekin]

Ocean should just come out and announce it already. It's been confirmed numerous times that it's being dubbed by them. What's the point of continuing a false sense of secrecy?

[Fizzer]

Ocean should just come out and announce it already. It's been confirmed numerous times that it's being dubbed by them. What's the point of continuing a false sense of secrecy?

I'm concerned that it's because the dub isn't even real. That's the only reason for them to have not announced anything yet.

[Super Sayian Prime]

Given how Scott Mcneil and previous voice actors associated with this project have broken the seemingly nonexistent NDA I'm going to assume Richard Cox is telling the truth.

Ocean should just come out and announce it already. It's been confirmed numerous times that it's being dubbed by them. What's the point of continuing a false sense of secrecy?

This dub isn't Ocean's to announce. They are simply an ADR studio. They don't license or otherwise acquire the shows they work on. It's on whomever they're working for to announce this dub.

Ocean should just come out and announce it already. It's been confirmed numerous times that it's being dubbed by them. What's the point of continuing a false sense of secrecy?

I'm concerned that it's because the dub isn't even real. That's the only reason for them to have not announced anything yet.

Yes, a variety of voice actors have been scheming for years to fool some Dragon Ball fans.

[OmegaRockman]

So I have a theory on Goku's new voice, although it's kind of a stretch. Remembering KaiserNeko's hint, I decided to take a look at Kappei Yamaguchi's Wikipedia page and found out that he's the Japanese voice for Bugs Bunny and the Red M&M, both of which were voiced at one point by none other than Billy West! Also, Kappei Yamaguchi plays Booster Gold in the Japanese dub of Justice League, and in English, Billy West plays Skeets (a companion of Booster Gold). I don't know about you guys, but if Billy West were playing Goku, I'd shit myself in happiness. I know it's wishful thinking, but a man can dream, right?

[Gyt Kaliba]

Not bad research, but I highly doubt it, no offense. Billy West, as far as I know, has never done any anime work, since it's a lot lower paying than domestic animation. There's also the fact that he's LA based, and to my knowledge has never worked in Canada either.

My bet is still on either Richard Ian Cox (and he just had to lie due to an NDA), since he's played both InuYasha and Ranma Saotome (two of Kappei Yamaguchi's roles), or Alesandro Juliani who played L in Death Note (another Yamaguchi role). Personally, though I can't really hear it working, my money's on Cox since he's got two roles to make Kaiser's hint fit with.

[The Time Traveller]

Who would this dub even be for? Just Canada? Or will we see it on Cartoon Network or something in the UK?

[TheBlackPaladin]

Who would this dub even be for? Just Canada? Or will we see it on Cartoon Network or something in the UK?

'Tis a mystery at the moment. At the beginning, we all suspected that it would air in the same countries that aired the Westwood dub of DBZ. A few months ago, we were almost certain that we were FINALLY going to see this dub, and then a promo for Kai aired on Kix (the UK channel that airs Kai).......and, to everyone's shock, it featured footage of the FUNimation dub. Lo and behold, the UK got, and continues to air, the FUNimation dub of Kai.

So now, I really don't know. It sounds like it will probably air in Canada, since Kai has not appeared on Canadian TV in any way, shape, or form. Not to mention that it's being recorded in Canada. Beyond that, I'm not too sure.

Even Canada may not be a guarantee, as I've heard of dubs that were not aired in the geographic location from which they were recorded. Back in the early new millennium, a dub of "Shin Chan" was recorded in Los Angeles, and used many high-profile LA voice actors, but for some reason it only aired in the UK.

[The Time Traveller]

Even Canada may not be a guarantee, as I've heard of dubs that were not aired in the geographic location from which they were recorded. Back in the early new millennium, a dub of "Shin Chan" was recorded in Los Angeles, and used many high-profile LA voice actors, but for some reason it only aired in the UK.

Yeah, I used to watch that version of Shin-chan on Fox Kids... Kath Soicie played Shin-chan and Misae! Kazama/Georgie's name was "Cosmo", Action Kamen/Action Bastard's name was "Masked Muchacho"... Bo/Bo was Bo. And Shin-chan would do the "bare butt boogie" but no "Mr. Elephant" since it was edited more for kids.

Ocean recorded an English dub of Demashita! Powerpuff Girls Z that only showed up in the Philippines, I really hope the same doesn't happen for this, but there's a good chance that it will be for Canadian TV.

[Solidus]

Well, Kirby Morrow did say that the dub was for Canada and English speaking countries in Europe. So it is more than likely that YTV in Canada would get it. As for Europe I would expect maybe a home release in the UK, Ireland and possibly Netherlands and maybe a TV release with Dutch subtitles in the Netherlands. I doubt it would appear on UK TV what with Kix having the Funi dub, but you never know. That's the most likely outcome, as for what is possible, you could have say the dub broadcast on an Irish station (Highly unlikely) and stations on Scandinavian channels with subtitles.

The situation with this dub is sorta similar to the Pretty Cure dub. Funimation got rights for a subtitled version in the US but Toei went and hired Blue Water Studios to dub the show. This dub only aired on YTV in Canada and Pop Girl (CSC Media) in the UK.

[90sDBZ]

Well, Kirby Morrow did say that the dub was for Canada and English speaking countries in Europe. So it is more than likely that YTV in Canada would get it. As for Europe I would expect maybe a home release in the UK, Ireland and possibly Netherlands and maybe a TV release with Dutch subtitles in the Netherlands. I doubt it would appear on UK TV what with Kix having the Funi dub, but you never know. That's the most likely outcome, as for what is possible, you could have say the dub broadcast on an Irish station (Highly unlikely) and stations on Scandinavian channels with subtitles.

The situation with this dub is sorta similar to the Pretty Cure dub. Funimation got rights for a subtitled version in the US but Toei went and hired Blue Water Studios to dub the show. This dub only aired on YTV in Canada and Pop Girl (CSC Media) in the UK.

I expect it's mainly for Canada and it's possible that places like Holland could get it too. As far as a DVD release is concerned Manga UK don't really seem interested in Ocean and would likely want to release the same dub that airs here otherwise it would put Kix fans off. I expect it's a TV only dub. Didn't Drummond make a comment saying he wishes he could do a serious dub of the series? Maybe it's a Z dub style version of Kai with an altered script.

[Super Sayian Prime]

No one in Canada would air a show like Dragon Ball Kai.

[Fennekin]

No one in Canada would air a show like Dragon Ball Kai.

That's "partly" true.

I don't know if all providers have this, but with Shaw, I could watch Toonzai/Vortexx, meaning that it sort of was aired in Canada.

At this point, I think Nick Canada might be the broadcaster for Z Kai, since it was aired on Nicktoons in the USA.

[ForestEquilibrium]

At this point, I think Nick Canada might be the broadcaster for Z Kai, since it was aired on Nicktoons in the USA.

I was considering this as well, however a good majority of shows Nick Canada airs is stuff YTV is currently airing or has aired in the past, so I think they kind of go hand-in-hand. Teletoon/CN would be the only other option it seems...

[Super Sayian Prime]

Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network Canada are just autopilot networks that run content inherited through existing programming deals. Notice how Nickelodeon Canada isn't airing Digimon Fusion, or how Cartoon Network lacks the Toonami block. Those are acquired shows that the current programming deals don't extend to.

Oh, and the CW broadcast doesn't really count as a Canadian broadcast.

[Fennekin]

Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network Canada are just autopilot networks that run content inherited through existing programming deals. Notice how Nickelodeon Canada isn't airing Digimon Fusion, or how Cartoon Network lacks the Toonami block. Those are acquired shows that the current programming deals don't extend to.

Oh, and the CW broadcast doesn't really count as a Canadian broadcast.

That's why I said it sort of counted. Canadians do have access to Vortexx.