The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[RandomGuy96]

Hit vs Beerus (with no knowledge of his ability). Let's be real here, Beerus didn't figure out Hit's ability, only Goku and Whis did. Perhaps in a fight, Hit would be capable of taking him on.

Hit has a really good chance to win but I still going to give this to Beerus.

New matches:

Piccolo [U6 arc] vs Perfect Cell.
Gohan [U6 arc, Base] vs SSJ Goku [BoG arc].
Botamo [No special ability] vs SSJ Gohan [CG arc].
Frost [First form] vs Kibitoshin.
Magetta vs Buuhan.
SSJ Cabba vs SSJ Vegetto [BoG arc].

Uh... I'll say Piccolo. Not 100% sure though. Let's put it this way; the highest I can see Piccolo (where I'm leaning now) is mid-SS2 tier, while at the lowest he hasn't leveled up much at all since the Buu arc.

I'll pass.

I'll say Botamo out of personal preference, but honestly there's no real way to tell.

1st form Frost was fairly close to base Goku in the manga, wasn't he? As I said, I believe base Goku is only high SS2 tier right now (eventually reaching low SS3 tier by the epilogue), but that would still place Frost a good bit above Kibitoshin, who I see as at the lowest end of SS2-tier. Then again, Kibitoshin has a paralysis power that works on beings about three times stronger than him. Said power renders his enemy completely helpless and so weak that they can get pierced by a needle driven by Spopovich. So I'll say him, if he remembers he has that ability.

Buuhan. It's tough to tell how strong Magetta really was, thanks to Vegeta's attitude and his reliance on gimmicks, but he doesn't have any defense against Buu's Candy Beam. I doubt he'd even think to dodge it.

At the most, I can see Cabba being x50 stronger than that "high SS2-tier" I mentioned that Goku was at (but even then, I'm not 100% sure if Super Saiyan is even a x50 boost in the anime, except when it is, or if Cabba somehow gets less than the full x50 based on Vegeta tanking his punch, or if base Vegeta was just way stronger than base Cabba all along... so many questions). This still wouldn't be enough to let him hang with Super Vegetto. This turns out like his fight with Buuhan, except more graphic because Cabba isn't made of gum and can't regenerate.

Tough ones. There's a lot of vagueness right now.

[dbgtFO]

New matches:

Piccolo [U6 arc] vs Perfect Cell, Cell one-shots.
Gohan [U6 arc, Base] vs SSJ Goku [BoG arc], Goku one shots.
Botamo [No special ability] vs SSJ Gohan [CG arc], Gohan one shots.
Frost [First form] vs Kibitoshin, Kaioshin(merged with Kibito) one shots.
Magetta vs Buuhan, Gohan-Buu one shots.
SSJ Cabba vs SSJ Vegetto [BoG arc], Vegetto one shots.

[Polyphase Avatron]

Hit vs. Champa

[RandomGuy96]

New matches:

Piccolo [U6 arc] vs Perfect Cell, Cell one-shots.
Gohan [U6 arc, Base] vs SSJ Goku [BoG arc], Goku one shots.
Botamo [No special ability] vs SSJ Gohan [CG arc], Gohan one shots.
Frost [First form] vs Kibitoshin, Kaioshin(merged with Kibito) one shots.
Magetta vs Buuhan, Gohan-Buu one shots.
SSJ Cabba vs SSJ Vegetto [BoG arc], Vegetto one shots.

So are you still going with "two bases"?

[Bansho64]

KKx10 Goku (On Namek Post Zenkai) vs Base Goten and Trunks (Before RoSAT)

[Khin]

KKx10 Goku (On Namek) vs Base Goten and Trunks (Before RoSAT)

Goku gets pwned horribly.

[DanielSSJ]

Hit vs Beerus (with no knowledge of his ability). Let's be real here, Beerus didn't figure out Hit's ability, only Goku and Whis did. Perhaps in a fight, Hit would be capable of taking him on.

Hit has a really good chance to win but I still going to give this to Beerus.

New matches:

Piccolo [U6 arc] vs Perfect Cell.
Gohan [U6 arc, Base] vs SSJ Goku [BoG arc].
Botamo [No special ability] vs SSJ Gohan [CG arc].
Frost [First form] vs Kibitoshin.
Magetta vs Buuhan.
SSJ Cabba vs SSJ Vegetto [BoG arc].

- I'd say the Piccolo's probably at least SS2 tier now, and beats Perfect Cell. No real reason, just my gut feeling.
- I'm kinda on the fence about Gohan's power right now, so I'll be safe and bet on Goku.
- I don't think Botamo is anything special without his special damage nullifier ability. Goku wins.
- Frost wins, if only because he's the best in U6 when it comes to hand-to-hand, and Kibitoshin is unskilled and incompetent.
- Unless if Boo insults or absorbs him, I don't think he can win against Magetta.
- It's almost blasphemous to say, but I think Cabba (who is about as strong as Vegeta in equal forms, and by extension, Goku) probably holds a decent power advantage over Vegetto. However, Cabba's still new to the transformation, and Vegetto might be able to take advantage of that. It's a bit of a toss-up for me, but I'd say the odds are in Cabba's favor.

KKx10 Goku (On Namek) vs Base Goten and Trunks (Before RoSAT)

Goku is stronger than the two, but not so much that he can fend them both off at once. That, combined with the stress of the Kaioken, seals Goku's defeat.

[Khin]

New matches:

Piccolo [U6 arc] vs Perfect Cell.
Gohan [U6 arc, Base] vs SSJ Goku [BoG arc].
Botamo [No special ability] vs SSJ Gohan [CG arc].
Frost [First form] vs Kibitoshin.
Magetta vs Buuhan.
SSJ Cabba vs SSJ Vegetto [BoG arc].

• Even ROF Arc Piccolo can wreck this Cell.
• Gohan flicks his fathers' head off.
• No way to tell.
• Frost flares his aura and Kibitoshin runs away from the battlefield.
• Buuhan turns Magetta into candy.
• I have the U6 Arc SSj's only twice weaker than SSj Blue.Cabba finger flicks.

[apex_pretador]

Hit Vs Champa

SSJ Blue Goku Vs champa

ssj blue vegeta vs champa

Vados+Whis VS SSjblue Goku /SSJ blue Vegeta/Champa/Beerus/Golden Frieza/Hit/SSJ Kabba

Frost-no poison VS Kabba.

Unless hit shows "power" comparable to champa, my money is on champa.

Champa two-shots

Champa two-shots

Either vados or whis one-shots each one

Base cabba dies horribly, SS cabba murders even more horribly

SS Goku (GT) vs Super Boo

SUper 17 arc goku one-shots. Anytime before that? He wins with little trouble.

I have new ones.

Buu absorbed (most of team universe 6, except for hit) vs ssj blue Goku?

Hit and frieza porta fusion vs Ssjblue vegito?

Magatta and botamo are strong for their abilities only, and if buu get their durability and abilities, then he can't be damaged. Useless battle, goku can try all he wants and won't be able to do anything. Buu has many ways to put him down however, despite huge power difference (assuming super buu)

Vegetto gets better merging boost because he's more complete fighter and personality. Vegetto stomps even beerus and probably whis.

Hit vs Beerus (with no knowledge of his ability). Let's be real here, Beerus didn't figure out Hit's ability, only Goku and Whis did. Perhaps in a fight, Hit would be capable of taking him on.

Lets be real here - hit is thousand year old, beerus is like billion years old.
Hit is weaker than beerus.

Beerus stomps IMO.

Piccolo [U6 arc] vs Perfect Cell.
Gohan [U6 arc, Base] vs SSJ Goku [BoG arc].
Botamo [No special ability] vs SSJ Gohan [CG arc].
Frost [First form] vs Kibitoshin.
Magetta vs Buuhan.
SSJ Cabba vs SSJ Vegetto [BoG arc].

Piccolo one-shots, then remarks that he missed the lump of cell's head, lets him come back as super perfect cell, then casually vaporises him with a demon super explosive wave

I think gohan should win. He should be atleast as strong as piccolo, and piccolo is stronger than this goku by now.

no idea

Frost one-shots. Kibitoshin is not a good fighter, and frost has a good power advantage.

They are very close in power - with buuhan having the edge in speed and strength while magatta having better durability. Buuhan is smarter and harder to put down with a bigger arsenal, so he wins.

Man, this is too hard for me. On one hand - it looks like he's stronger than vegetto, and on the other hand, it is too hard for me to believe.
Vegetto turns him to candy Vegetto wins by using the instant transmission.

Hit vs. Champa

see above, answered - champa

KKx10 Goku (On Namek) vs Base Goten and Trunks (Before RoSAT)

KK x10 goku stomps, assuming that this is post zenkai.

Pre zenkai goku stands no chance with KK x100

[apex_pretador]

Buuhan runs the DB Super gauntlet: (NO CANDY BEAM OR ABSORPTIONS)

- First form Freeza
- First form frost
- Botamo
- Final form freeza
- Base cabba
- Final form frost
- SS Goku (suppressed vs frost)
- SS Cabba
- SS Vegeta FP
- Whis x Vados potara merging (Candy beams and absorption allowed)

[Khin]

Buuhan runs the DB Super gauntlet: (NO CANDY BEAM OR ABSORPTIONS)

- First form Freeza
- First form frost
- Botamo
- Final form freeza
- Base cabba
- Final form frost
- SS Goku (suppressed vs frost)
- SS Cabba
- SS Vegeta FP
- Whis x Vados potara merging (Candy beams and absorption allowed)

Buuhan wins against 1st Form Freeza with some difficulty.But that's it.

[Bansho64]

Base Future Trunks (Before Gohan's death) vs Nail

[Khin]

Base Future Trunks (Before Gohan's death) vs Nail

I have that Trunks at 50,000.He wins with mild difficulty.

[Pocket-God]

Buuhan runs the DB Super gauntlet: (NO CANDY BEAM OR ABSORPTIONS)

- First form Freeza
- First form frost
- Botamo
- Final form freeza
- Base cabba
- Final form frost
- SS Goku (suppressed vs frost)
- SS Cabba
- SS Vegeta FP
- Whis x Vados potara merging (Candy beams and absorption allowed)

He beats everyone except the last one...............what the hell do you have against Buuhan?

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

Base Future Trunks (Before Gohan's death) vs Nail

I have that Trunks at 50,000.He wins with mild difficulty.

If Trunks was that weak he wouldn't be able to go ssj.

[Khin]

If Trunks was that weak he wouldn't be able to go ssj.

Base Future Gohan was handling Trunks' ass who should only be around 3 Million-ish at that point.

Future Trunks [Base] : 50,000
--- SSJ : 2,500,000

Future Gohan [Base] : 3,200,000

[Desassina]

Buff Buu runs a gauntlet! He gets healed with every battle, and he's not allowed to absorb whom he is going to fight next. In this case, it's Gotenks that can't be absorbed.

1. SSJ3 Gotenks
2. Piccolo Buu
3. Ultimate Gohan
4. Gotenks Buu

In my opinion, clearing everything depends on whether he absorbs Gohan or not.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

If Trunks was that weak he wouldn't be able to go ssj.

Base Future Gohan was handling Trunks' ass who should only be around 3 Million-ish at that point.

Future Trunks [Base] : 50,000
--- SSJ : 2,500,000

Future Gohan [Base] : 3,200,000

That would be below frieza saga gohan who when raging couldn't go ssj for lack of power. You have to be goku's level when he fought frieza minimum to go ssj.

[Khin]

That would be below frieza saga gohan who when raging couldn't go ssj for lack of power. You have to be goku's level when he fought frieza minimum to go ssj.

Who said that ? Trunks could've one shot Gohan if he's in the million range.Present Trunks was able to go Super Saiyan without anger.

[DanielSSJ]

Buuhan runs the DB Super gauntlet: (NO CANDY BEAM OR ABSORPTIONS)

- First form Freeza
- First form frost
- Botamo
- Final form freeza
- Base cabba
- Final form frost
- SS Goku (suppressed vs frost)
- SS Cabba
- SS Vegeta FP
- Whis x Vados potara merging (Candy beams and absorption allowed)

- I tentatively peg Final Form Freeza and Base Goku and Vegeta as being as strong as Ultimate Gohan and Gotenks Boo, respectively. With that in mind, he gets up to Base Cabba.
- If Vegetto was in no danger from Gohan Boo's candy beam or absorptions, I don't see how Whis or Vados would be.

Buff Buu runs a gauntlet! He gets healed with every battle, and he's not allowed to absorb whom he is going to fight next. In this case, it's Gotenks that can't be absorbed.

1. SSJ3 Gotenks
2. Piccolo Buu
3. Ultimate Gohan
4. Gotenks Buu

- South Kaioshin Boo beats Gotenks and and Piccolo Boo, but loses to Gohan and Gotenks Boo.

That would be below frieza saga gohan who when raging couldn't go ssj for lack of power. You have to be goku's level when he fought frieza minimum to go ssj.

There is a minimum power level you need to go Super Saiyan, but its never been established. Hell, since the half Saiyans have an easier time going Super Saiyan, maybe their minimum level is even less.