The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[ZombieVito]

Piccolo [U6 arc] vs SSJ3 Goku [Boo arc]

Goku doesn't know about Piccolo's stretch arm + Makankosappo strategy.

As you already noted, episode 30 heavily implies Mr. Buu is still above Piccolo by a good margin, and Goku is above Mr. Buu. I think the gap between Goku and Piccolo is big enough that not even Piccolo's grapple + SBC strategy helps him here- Goku just annihilates him with one punch.

Yes but I feel the Makankosappo could kill this Goku but I suppose since he will be stronger than a weakened Frost Piccolo can't overcome him yet.

[Smilodon]

Some intersting fights

Akkuman vs Tao Pai Pai ? (until one is dead)
King Piccolo (young) vs Goku Oozaru (Before Chō-Shinsui and Piccolo doesn't know about the moon) ?
Ranfán vs Jackie Chun (TB 21) ?
General Blue vs Invisible Man (TB rules) ?
Babidi vs Beerus (TB rules, Babidi wants to teleport Beerus outside the ring just in the begining, and Beerus doesn't know about his technique and he doesn't go to punch him at first instance) ?
King Rabbit vs Piccolo (piccolo doesn't know about his ability. TB rules) ?
Chi Chi vs Bacteria (TB Rules) ?

[DanielSSJ]

Some intersting fights

Akkuman vs Tao Pai Pai ? (until one is dead)
King Piccolo (young) vs Goku Oozaru (Before Chō-Shinsui and Piccolo doesn't know about the moon) ?
Ranfán vs Jackie Chun (TB 21) ?
General Blue vs Invisible Man (TB rules) ?
Babidi vs Beerus (TB rules, Babidi wants to teleport Beerus outside the ring just in the begining, and Beerus doesn't know about his technique and he doesn't go to punch him at first instance) ?
King Rabbit vs Piccolo (piccolo doesn't know about his ability. TB rules) ?
Chi Chi vs Bacteria (TB Rules) ?

- Tao Pai Pai is probably stronger, but he's dead if he lets the Devilmite Beam hit him. I'm gonna say Akuman.
- Goku is undoubtedly more powerful as an Oozaru. Hell, if we go by official power levels, Ozaru Goku would be above Raditz. Piccolo gets stomped, literally.
- Roshi's a perv, but he's not Sanji. There are tow ways this fight would go. (A) Roshi quickly but painlessly knocks Lanfan out of bounds, much like what Goku did to Chi Chi. (B) Roshi spends the entire fight trying to grope her, which makes her mad and get sloppy. Either way, Roshi wins without to much trouble.
- Assuming Baba's not around to cheat, Blue will be able to detect Invisible Man through sound, and easily beat him. If Yamcha could do that, Blue, who is noticeably stronger than Kuririn, can do it too, and in less time perhaps.
- Bobbidi wins the match but is killed by Beerus later anyway.
- Something tells me something like what happened to Vegetto would happen and Carrot Daimao would win anyways. Either that or Piccolo knocks the Rabbit in one hit.
- Chi Chi is much, MUCH stronger than Bacterian, and can easily beat him up with one hand.

[Smilodon]

- Assuming Baba's not around to cheat, Blue will be able to detect Invisible Man through sound, and easily beat him. If Yamcha could do that, Blue, who is noticeably stronger than Kuririn, can do it too, and in less time perhaps.
- Bobbidi wins the match but is killed by Beerus later anyway.

Yamcha didn't do anything to win. Kuririn used Bulma and Roshi to paint the Invisble Man....So, the question is still up!
And don't forget about Ranfán strategy
And...I was thinking. Is Babidi capable to teleport anyone he wants to anywhere? In this case He could be unstopable at TB rules if he uses this strategy and his oponent doesn't know.

[DanielSSJ]

Yamcha didn't do anything to win. Kuririn used Bulma and Roshi to paint the Invisble Man....So, the question is still up!
And don't forget about Ranfán strategy
And...I was thinking. Is Babidi capable to teleport anyone he wants to anywhere? In this case He could be unstopable at TB rules if he uses this strategy and his oponent doesn't know.

Yamcha was on the cusp of winning before Baba started to interfere. Kuririn just evened the odds.

[apex_pretador]

Piccolo [U6 arc] vs SSJ3 Goku [Boo arc]

Goku doesn't know about Piccolo's stretch arm + Makankosappo strategy.

Goku wins after a tough battle Buu arc SS3 goku loses.

Some intersting fights

Akkuman vs Tao Pai Pai ? (until one is dead)
King Piccolo (young) vs Goku Oozaru (Before Chō-Shinsui and Piccolo doesn't know about the moon) ?
Ranfán vs Jackie Chun (TB 21) ?
General Blue vs Invisible Man (TB rules) ?
Babidi vs Beerus (TB rules, Babidi wants to teleport Beerus outside the ring just in the begining, and Beerus doesn't know about his technique and he doesn't go to punch him at first instance) ?
King Rabbit vs Piccolo (piccolo doesn't know about his ability. TB rules) ?
Chi Chi vs Bacteria (TB Rules) ?

Akkuman makes tao pai pai explode with akkumite beam

Goku literally stomps on Piccolo. Piccolo was like 3x stronger than goku in old form, and become like 3x stronger than himself in young form. Goku is 10x himself and that's not even including the old-daimao zenkai.

The greatest gag-fight of all time, ends in jacky-chun winning

General blue is MUCH stronger, but can he even hit him? Invisible man wins by ringout.

Beerus

Piccolo wins, because either mr rabbit will be KO'd before thinking to turn him to rabbit, or be out of ring.

Both lose because chi-chi killed him in one-punch.

- Assuming Baba's not around to cheat, Blue will be able to detect Invisible Man through sound, and easily beat him. If Yamcha could do that, Blue, who is noticeably stronger than Kuririn, can do it too, and in less time perhaps.
- Bobbidi wins the match but is killed by Beerus later anyway.

Yamcha didn't do anything to win. Kuririn used Bulma and Roshi to paint the Invisble Man....So, the question is still up!
And don't forget about Ranfán strategy
And...I was thinking. Is Babidi capable to teleport anyone he wants to anywhere? In this case He could be unstopable at TB rules if he uses this strategy and his oponent doesn't know.

Roshi will love ranfan strategy.

[Khin]

Episode 30 confirms Boo > Piccolo still. Hopefully something happens in the next arc to remedy that.

And Piccolo did very well against Frost who is stronger than Base Goku,who is stronger than Final Form Freeza,who is heavily implied to be stronger than at least SSj Gotenks in his first form.The powerscaling for Super have been very messy at this point.But i would say,Goku just doesnt know/realize how strong Piccolo was at that point.I don't believe the two bases theory because Goku should've used the strain-free "Saiyan Beyond God" instead,he risked his life by mixing it with the Blue form.Not to mention,Goku wasn't shown to use that state before.

[ZombieVito]

Episode 30 confirms Boo > Piccolo still. Hopefully something happens in the next arc to remedy that.

And Piccolo did very well against Frost who is stronger than Base Goku,who is stronger than Final Form Freeza,who is heavily implied to be stronger than at least SSj Gotenks in his first form.The powerscaling for Super have been very messy at this point.But i would say,Goku just doesnt know/realize how strong Piccolo was at that point.I don't believe the two bases theory because Goku should've used the strain-free "Saiyan Beyond God" instead,he risked his life by mixing it with the Blue form.Not to mention,Goku wasn't shown to use that state before.

I would give you this if someone else rather than Bulma said he stood no chance. Besides Piccolo only did that well because he avoided combat. The Makankosappo was his only chance for victory and that attack has a ~3.25 amplification.

[Khin]

I would give you this if someone else rather than Bulma said he stood no chance. Besides Piccolo only did that well because he avoided combat. The Makankosappo was his only chance for victory and that attack has a ~3.25 amplification.

Piccolo was blocking and dodging Frost's punches,that puts him in 1/2 steps behind to Frost and not strong enough to win against Frost in a normal fight,kinda 25% - 30% gap.And if we go by the manga (Which i think is more accurate to Toriyama's script that the anime).Piccolo went toe to toe with Frost and only lost because of the poison.

[ZombieVito]

I would give you this if someone else rather than Bulma said he stood no chance. Besides Piccolo only did that well because he avoided combat. The Makankosappo was his only chance for victory and that attack has a ~3.25 amplification.

Piccolo was blocking and dodging Frost's punches,that puts him in 1/2 steps behind to Frost and not strong enough to win against Frost in a normal fight,kinda 25% - 30% gap.And if we go by the manga (Which i think is more accurate to Toriyama's script that the anime).Piccolo went toe to toe with Frost and only lost because of the poison.

He didn't fight toe to toe with him. He fought defensively the entire time.

[Khin]

He didn't fight toe to toe with him. He fought defensively the entire time.

Well the manga fight is very short,Piccolo was playing defensively when he have his weights,when he removed it,they fight for like 1 panel and Piccolo blocked Frost's punches and got K.O'ed due to the poison.Even so,that's still impresive,Frost felt the need of the poison to beat him,meaning the gap between them isn't absurdelly large.

[apex_pretador]

I would give you this if someone else rather than Bulma said he stood no chance. Besides Piccolo only did that well because he avoided combat. The Makankosappo was his only chance for victory and that attack has a ~3.25 amplification.

Piccolo was blocking and dodging Frost's punches,that puts him in 1/2 steps behind to Frost and not strong enough to win against Frost in a normal fight,kinda 25% - 30% gap.And if we go by the manga (Which i think is more accurate to Toriyama's script that the anime).Piccolo went toe to toe with Frost and only lost because of the poison.

He didn't fight toe to toe with him. He fought defensively the entire time.

He was actually all offensive in manga, pushing frost on defence.

[Bansho64]

Android Arc SS Goku (Recovered From Heart Virus) vs Future 17 and 18

[Lord Beerus]

Android Arc SS Goku (Recovered From Heart Virus) vs Future 17 and 18

If 17 and 18 team up properly, Goku is going down.

[ZombieVito]

He didn't fight toe to toe with him. He fought defensively the entire time.

Well the manga fight is very short,Piccolo was playing defensively when he have his weights,when he removed it,they fight for like 1 panel and Piccolo blocked Frost's punches and got K.O'ed due to the poison.Even so,that's still impresive,Frost felt the need of the poison to beat him,meaning the gap between them isn't absurdelly large.

It's said in the manga by either Goku or Vegeta (I can't remember) that he fought defensively. Frost just ended the match quickly because he got annoyed.

[RandomGuy96]

Episode 30 confirms Boo > Piccolo still. Hopefully something happens in the next arc to remedy that.

And Piccolo did very well against Frost who is stronger than Base Goku,who is stronger than Final Form Freeza,who is heavily implied to be stronger than at least SSj Gotenks in his first form.The powerscaling for Super have been very messy at this point.But i would say,Goku just doesnt know/realize how strong Piccolo was at that point.I don't believe the two bases theory because Goku should've used the strain-free "Saiyan Beyond God" instead,he risked his life by mixing it with the Blue form.Not to mention,Goku wasn't shown to use that state before.

I would give you this if someone else rather than Bulma said he stood no chance.

If anything, Gotenks saying he can kick the crap out of Freeza without even using Super Saiyan 3 should be worth a lot more than that, since he can sense ki while Bulma can't. Especially since no one else tried to get him to back down, and both he and Buu conveniently were Deus Ex Machina'd out of fighting Freeza.

[DanielSSJ]

Android Arc SS Goku (Recovered From Heart Virus) vs Future 17 and 18

Goku's chances against one of them is iffy. Two against one and he's going down.

If anything, Gotenks saying he can kick the crap out of Freeza without even using Super Saiyan 3 should be worth a lot more than that, since he can sense ki while Bulma can't. Especially since no one else tried to get him to back down, and both he and Buu conveniently were Deus Ex Machina'd out of fighting Freeza.

This is the same kid who though he could take on Fat Boo in his base form and thought his base and Super Saiyan form would be enough for Evil Boo. I'm not actually taking a stance in this Gotenks vs Freeza debate. I just think anything Gotenks says about his strength should be taken with a grain of salt.

[apex_pretador]

Android Arc SS Goku (Recovered From Heart Virus) vs Future 17 and 18

either can atleast match goku, if not win on his/her own. The team definitely wins.

If anything, Gotenks saying he can kick the crap out of Freeza without even using Super Saiyan 3 should be worth a lot more than that, since he can sense ki while Bulma can't. Especially since no one else tried to get him to back down, and both he and Buu conveniently were Deus Ex Machina'd out of fighting Freeza.

This is the same kid who though he could take on Fat Boo in his base form and thought his base and Super Saiyan form would be enough for Evil Boo. I'm not actually taking a stance in this Gotenks vs Freeza debate. I just think anything Gotenks says about his strength should be taken with a grain of salt.

^^^

I was about to post this.

[RandomGuy96]

This is the same kid who though he could take on Fat Boo in his base form and thought his base and Super Saiyan form would be enough for Evil Boo. I'm not actually taking a stance in this Gotenks vs Freeza debate. I just think anything Gotenks says about his strength should be taken with a grain of salt.

His word is still worth more than Bulma's, since she can't sense ki, while Gotenks can. Also, this is rather overblown; he only thought his SS form would be enough for Super Buu because Buu apparently wasn't outputting his full power (hence why Piccolo thought the same thing), and when he was getting ready to face Super Buu the second time, he turned SS3 immediately. A precaution he apparently felt he didn't need to smack down Freeza.

By this logic no character should be trusted on any power statement because they all attacked Beerus.

[apex_pretador]

This is the same kid who though he could take on Fat Boo in his base form and thought his base and Super Saiyan form would be enough for Evil Boo. I'm not actually taking a stance in this Gotenks vs Freeza debate. I just think anything Gotenks says about his strength should be taken with a grain of salt.

His word is still worth more than Bulma's, since she can't sense ki, while Gotenks can. Also, this is rather overblown; he only thought his SS form would be enough for Super Buu because Buu apparently wasn't outputting his full power (hence why Piccolo thought the same thing), and when he was getting ready to face Super Buu the second time, he turned SS3 immediately. A precaution he apparently felt he didn't need to smack down Freeza.

By this logic no character should be trusted on any power statement because they all attacked Beerus.

they couldn't sense beerus, and why are you forgetting the "BASE" part. He thought that super buu was faking the tanks when he was in base.

Also, if buu was even comparable to First form freeza, then why they don't even try to wake him up?