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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Doctor. » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:25 pm

Noah wrote:How is possible Goku and Vegeta training in the RoSaT again? Any explanations?
Goku still had a year left. As for Vegeta, I dunno, but he can easily bust his way out like Gotenks and Boo, or Goku can use IT.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by SaiyanZ » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:25 pm

I love the designs.The purple guy looks awesome, I'm glad that the supposed Saiyan is a kid/small, the Freeza lookalike doesn't bother (he/she kinda looks like Froze from DB Heroes and my character on Xenoverse right down to the blue color), the Pooh bear looks funny and like Bepo from One Piece's cousin and the robot is probably my favorite of them, kinda looks like Robo from Chrono Trigger and The Iron Giant fused or something. Mystery 5th's fighter's tits/nipples are hilarious and I expected a funny design for him. Zuno looks funny as well; I wonder if Toriyama likes Modok from Marvel Comics, this is the 2nd character behind Freeza that's in a hovering chair that I remember.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Basaku » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:26 pm

LuckyCat wrote:Imagine if Beerus' team loses, we'd be seeing truckloads of new characters in Earth's new universe.
Which may be just the perfect plot device for the next 10 years of TV show. Endless possibilites of new OP villains, more Saiayns available to be pulled out at will (without having to develop "another survivor" nonsense every time), new "old" Kaios/Kaioshins etc etc. All while Earth would be unaffected and most of old characters would stay just as they were

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:28 pm

miguelnuva1 wrote:20 years later and he still want give us the female super saiyan?
Not like we dont have any at all. Heroes even went up to SSJ3 with them. Just because Toriyama didn't design them doesnt mean they dont exist.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Jaetinh » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:28 pm

Wauw. What a huge disappointment, shit. I at least expected a minimum of two badass and aesthetic looking characters. The purple guy is cool, but the rest? Hell nah. A huge robot, a fat and plain looking bear, a blue Frieza and ... a Saiyajin kid with the same hairstyle as Gohan. Looks like Toriyama is out of ideas when it comes to hairstyles.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Noah » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:29 pm

Doctor. wrote:Goku still had a year left. As for Vegeta, I dunno, but he can easily bust his way out like Gotenks and Boo, or Goku can use IT.
Damn it. RoSaT as a good plot device back in the Android Arc, I was expecting something more original, isn't Whis training enough? Both Saiyans will train but how about Piccolo? Seems weird.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by LightBing » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:29 pm

If I was a Super Villain, I'd be rubbing my hands in glee. Most Gods and the strongest creatures of Universe 6 and 7 in one place! Thank you very much, time to do some evil!

Kudos again to the 5th guy. Such a surreal joke; the strongest non-god in our Universe, looks plain except for his nipples - insert booing sound effect -, it's pretty great. Mr.Toriyama doing what he does best.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:30 pm

Doctor. wrote:
Noah wrote:How is possible Goku and Vegeta training in the RoSaT again? Any explanations?
Goku still had a year left. As for Vegeta, I dunno, but he can easily bust his way out like Gotenks and Boo, or Goku can use IT.
Goku explained to Gohan when they went in that being there completely cuts themselves off from the outside. He had Gohan try sensing Cell's ki and he couldnt so once you go in the room, you cant sense anything out of it.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Doctor. » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:31 pm

Noah wrote:
Doctor. wrote:Goku still had a year left. As for Vegeta, I dunno, but he can easily bust his way out like Gotenks and Boo, or Goku can use IT.
Damn it. RoSaT as a good plot device back in the Android Arc, I was expecting something more original, isn't Whis training enough? Both Saiyans will train but how about Piccolo? Seems weird.
The RoSaT isn't something they can use to increase their power massively anyway. The conditions aren't harsh anymore considering the level of power they're at, and if they stay there for a long time, they'll just get older and older. It's only really useful for quick and small boosts in power in a narrow time window like the one they were given.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by ZombieVito » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:32 pm

Holy crap a lot of pages. Can anyone tell me whats new?

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Sandubadear » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:35 pm

Zombie wrote:Holy crap a lot of pages. Can anyone tell me whats new?
New chapter leaked. All characters of the tournament appear. Jaco and Bulma find Zuno.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Tsufuru » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:38 pm

Basaku wrote:
Doctor. wrote:
Basaku wrote:Diversity is great but really, couldn't U6 Saiyan at least get a different hairstyle? Couldn't U6 Freeza look more unique? Cooler looked like Freeza's race yet still unique. Purple Cell doesn't look particularly good either, too much of a mash-up of old design elements. And the Nipple guy will forever be known as the Nipple guy because that's the only memorable thing about his design :|
The Freeza guy is like that on purpose though, just like Champa and Vados. Goku and Vegeta comment on his appearance, so it's not like Toriyama is ripping off Freeza and calling him a completely different, unrelated character. Plus, he may look difference once/if he transforms.
You can't mistake Champa with Beerus. It's is an "easy/cheap" design trick just to make 1 fatter than the other? Yep but effective. They look instantly distinct. Same with gender swap between Whis and Vados. But then we have U6 Kaioshins that look different yet similar just enough.

U6 Freeza is not different enough. Not a good design. Nothing more to that, either there's something in it that makes it distinct enough to be instantly recognizable as different character or there isn't. Remember Goten note in EOZ manga chapter? "I gave adult Goten different haircut to make him distinct". Per Toriyama himself so yes, he does know it has to be done. He just doesn't apply it in all cases which is unfortunate.
this guy's designe is atleast as much diffent compared to freeza's first form than cooler 4th form with freeza's final form.

look at freeza without the armor.
alien races allways are potrayed like that they look all similar to each other unlike the human race.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Noah » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:43 pm

Doctor. wrote:The RoSaT isn't something they can use to increase their power massively anyway. The conditions aren't harsh anymore considering the level of power they're at, and if they stay there for a long time, they'll just get older and older. It's only really useful for quick and small boosts in power in a narrow time window like the one they were given.
Yes! I agree with everything you said! But as you said in bold... The question is still: Why then?
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by ZombieVito » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:43 pm

I fond it hilarious that of all the group there only Gohan is missing.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:45 pm

Zombie wrote:I fond it hilarious that of all the group there only Gohan is missing.
And Tights sadly. I really want to see her interact with the rest of the group. Trunks finding out he suddenly has a aunt, Vegeta has another sister-in-law, etc.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by ekrolo2 » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:46 pm

So only three characters from U6 are lazy knock offs of guys who already exist (Champa, Vados and U6 Freeza), the rest look alright but Nipples is meh. I know Toriyama wants the strongest guys to look simple and weak, but Nipples is just fugly to me.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Doctor. » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:46 pm

Noah wrote:
Doctor. wrote:The RoSaT isn't something they can use to increase their power massively anyway. The conditions aren't harsh anymore considering the level of power they're at, and if they stay there for a long time, they'll just get older and older. It's only really useful for quick and small boosts in power in a narrow time window like the one they were given.
Yes! I agree with everything you said! But as you said in bold... The question is still: Why then?
Because they have 5 days to train. It's better to turn those 5 days into a few months or years if they can, right? :p

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Tsufuru » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:47 pm

Zombie wrote:I fond it hilarious that of all the group there only Gohan is missing.
doesnt the reason becouse his not coming seem to random?

i mean it would be no diffrent if he went with them to just watch them.
i hope he told videl not to tell any1 that he is secretly training.
I'm not even a big gohan fan but that would be pretty cool tbh.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Basaku » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:48 pm

Tsufuru wrote: this guy's designe is atleast as much diffent compared to freeza's first form than cooler 4th form with freeza's final form.

look at freeza without the armor.
alien races allways are potrayed like that they look all similar to each other unlike the human race.
Hardly. Metallic form for Cooler was hugely distinctive because it covered his entire body.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Noah » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:50 pm

Doctor. wrote:Because they have 5 days to train. It's better to turn those 5 days into a few months or years if they can, right? :p
But isn't RoSaT primitive compared with Whis training? Couldn't they still train with him? Feels like a completely preventable plot hole to me.
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